Should we stone A. Wallace?
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Anthony Wallace is prolly some atheist obsessed with destroying other peoples belief for self satisfaction or something.
God knows what is said in the heavens and the Earth.
Peace,
It is sad to see your quest for your human need of being of importance has ended up with this deluded idea. You do not even know what the book says since you can't even verify an Arabic word. I obey the Qur'an, and study it's contents in its original language, the Quran is protected and unchanged and is to be discovered for everyone with an open mind and rationality, there is absolutely no function in you being a messenger as you try to proclaim. So stop the powertripping...
God knows what is said in the heavens and the Earth...
This is an obveous lie!
Bring forth your witnesses if you truthful...
Have you and your forfaythers pasted these sayings down to each other...that u and the rest of the rejecters say...to their messengers that come to them???
Your Lord is fully aware of who it is that brings the guidance, and who has gone astray...
Do not serve except God, and be aware, and obey, and listen.
He does not speak of his own accord.
Who are my supporters towards God???
Either u wit me or against me!!! There was a sign for you in the two groups that met. One was foghting in the cause of God , while the other was rejecting...
And God is fully aware of who His messengers are...And He knows who the soldiers are... And He knows which of you are the hinderers...
And if you against me then stay away from me!!!
And if you love God , then follow me. So God will love you and forgive your sins. And God is the forgiver, the Merciful...
O rejecters, I do not serve what you serve, nor do you serve what I serve. Nor will I serve what you aerve. Nor will you serve what I serve. To you is your system, and to me is mine...
I am a clear warner!
Do you ridicul ,me for sayin that im Gods messenger??? Why??? And im inviting u to believe in ur Lord and what was sent down...
Why did you kill the prohets from befor if u were believers???
This is what they said to their messengers
It is sad to see your quest for your human need of being of importance has ended up with this deluded idea. You do not even know what the book says since you can't even verify an Arabic word. I obey the Qur'an, and study it's contents in its original language, the Quran is protected and unchanged and is to be discovered for everyone with an open mind and rationality, there is absolutely no function in you being a messenger as you try to proclaim. So stop the powertripping...
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Peace, A. Wallace.
Your arguments are completely futile. Your proof isn't al-Qur'an because YOU DIDN'T DELIVER AL-QUR'AN. The Message is already here, and it was delivered by Mohammed. Why are you applying teachings about the prophet to yourself? Do you claim to be a prophet also???
And even, hypothetically, if you did deliver the Message, which is not the case since Mohammed is the final prophet, how could you claim to deliver al-Qur'an if you can't read it in it's original language? If you can't recite the Message in Arabic, you don't really know what al-Qur'an says - you need someone to translate God's Message to you!
My proof of my messengership is the Quran. Everytime a messenger came to them they denied them also... And those who reject say " you are not a messenger " and they dont have proof that im not...Nor do you have proof...
Had God willed i would not have recited it to you... Are the messengers requred to do anything but deliver clearly?
What is the matter with you??? God has made the Quran easy in my tongue...The Holy Spirit brought it down...
What are you delivering that is not already delivered? Has God (The High) sent you down an English Translation of al-Qur'an, divinely inspired??? Or do you speak about The God what you do not know?
"And who does greater wrong than he who invents a lie against God when he is summoned unto submission? And God does not guide the wrongdoing people." (al-Qur'an 617)
Peace.
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My oh my!
"Humility"... the quality or condition of being humble; modest opinion or estimate of one's own importance, rank, etc.
Ever heard of it?
Peace
Humble towards the believers and sever and proud towards all rejecters...This is Gods grace, that He bestows upon whomever He wills...
peace
It is not for a Prophet to be fraudulent; whoso defrauds shall bring the fruits of his fraud on the Day of Resurrection; then every soul shall be paid in full what it has earned, and they shall not be wronged.
Thats right Hati,
And
" I do not ask you for any wage; nor am I a fraud. It is but a reminder for the worlds, and u will come to know its news after awhile."
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Yo A. Wallace (May Allah Grant Him Peace)
Those who don't believe you are Kuffar!!
Should I kill them?Defender Of Faith
I dont know what fuffar means...
Just let whoever wills believe and whoever reject...God is witness, and He knows who brings the guidance and who has strayed...
I do not ask for a wage , but for whoever chooses to make a path to His Lord...
peace
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Peace, A. Wallace.
Your arguments are completely futile. Your proof isn't al-Qur'an because YOU DIDN'T DELIVER AL-QUR'AN. The Message is already here, and it was delivered by Mohammed. Why are you applying teachings about the prophet to yourself? Do you claim to be a prophet also???
And even, hypothetically, if you did deliver the Message, which is not the case since Mohammed is the final prophet, how could you claim to deliver al-Qur'an if you can't read it in it's original language? If you can't recite the Message in Arabic, you don't really know what al-Qur'an says - you need someone to translate God's Message to you!
What are you delivering that is not already delivered? Has God (The High) sent you down an English Translation of al-Qur'an, divinely inspired??? Or do you speak about The God what you do not know?
"And who does greater wrong than he who invents a lie against God when he is summoned unto submission? And God does not guide the wrongdoing people." (al-Qur'an 617)
Peace.
peace
This is an obvious lie!
4 ur info i know how to study Quran and Arabic, and i know how to translate the Quran and interpret clear meanings by my Lords leave...
And I am on a clarity from my Lord...
There is no argument between us and you. God is our Lord and your Lord. And to Him we will be gathered...
The messengers are not requred to do anything but recite the revelations. They are not requred to deliver anything new. They can come to recite the Quran to the people, and teach the Scripture and wisdom, and purify them...
If they dont, then they have not delivered their Lords messages...If you can only understand...
And the truth has come from your Lord.
Bring ten English translations of the Quran that is better than the one I have in guidance, if you truthful...And call on whoever you can besides God...
peace
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The messengers are not requred to do anything but recite the revelations. They are not requred to deliver anything new. They can come to recite the Quran to the people, and teach the Scripture and wisdom, and purify them...
If they dont, then they have not delivered their Lords messages...If you can only understand...
Salam Anthony,
I dont mind that you claim you are a messenger or Rashad or anyone else. The more claimants the better. Truth will always come out
In their hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease And grievous is the penalty they (incur), because they are false (to themselves).
And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is).
Satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.
Let there be no compulsion in religion Truth stands out clear from Error whoever rejects evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand- hold, that never breaks. And God heareth and knoweth all things.
That He might justify Truth and prove Falsehood false, distasteful though it be to those in guilt.
God knows the truth and sooner iff you are an impostor you'll be consumed by your inner-self.
If they charge thee with falsehood, say "My work to me, and yours to you! ye are free from responsibility for what I do, and I for what ye do!"
I believe in Quran and Muhammad was the last prophet.
If you bring something same as the Quran, I believe in the Quran.
God bless you.
Hati
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Salam Anthony,
I dont mind that you claim you are a messenger or Rashad or anyone else. The more claimants the better. Truth will always come out
In their hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease And grievous is the penalty they (incur), because they are false (to themselves).
And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is).
Satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.
Let there be no compulsion in religion Truth stands out clear from Error whoever rejects evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand- hold, that never breaks. And God heareth and knoweth all things.
That He might justify Truth and prove Falsehood false, distasteful though it be to those in guilt.
God knows the truth and sooner iff you are an impostor you'll be consumed by your inner-self.
If they charge thee with falsehood, say "My work to me, and yours to you! ye are free from responsibility for what I do, and I for what ye do!"
I believe in Quran and Muhammad was the last prophet.
If you bring something same as the Quran, I believe in the Quran.
God bless you.
Hati
peace
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Bring ten English translations of the Quran that is better than the one I have in guidance, if you truthful...And call on whoever you can besides God...
peace
What version of al-Qur'an have you brought? You're claiming that The God sent down to you an English translation of al-Qur'an???
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What version of al-Qur'an have you brought? You're claiming that The God sent down to you an English translation of al-Qur'an???
The translation I read from is the one on Free-minds, all I said is bring ten translations of the Quran that is better than it...If u can...
And how long will the people continue to be in doubt??? When the truth has come...
And yes, God has made this English translation of the Quran to be easy in my language...And I dont find any crookedness in it...
peace
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Salam Anthony,
I dont mind that you claim you are a messenger or Rashad or anyone else. The more claimants the better. Truth will always come out
God knows the truth and sooner iff you are an impostor you'll be consumed by your inner-self.
If they charge thee with falsehood, say "My work to me, and yours to you! ye are free from responsibility for what I do, and I for what ye do!"
I believe in Quran and Muhammad was the last prophet.
If you bring something same as the Quran, I believe in the Quran.
God bless you.
Hati
peace
also thanks 4 the wisdom and suggestion and rememberance...
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peace all)
i'd like to know what message mr. wallace is bringing.
I bring you the proofs.
And I bring you the proofs of salat ( the daily prayers), and the daily readings, and the daily teachings. I manefest the communion.
we already had a proof but whatever. some say it's the daily prayers, some say it's upholding the communion, some say it's establishing the connection, some say it's reading the quran, some say it's meditating... is the method important or the results?
look at the ones who follow hadith who call salat prayer and do it the way they do it, then they beat their wives, chop off arms of thieves, kill or threaten others who don't share their belief system, insult, lie, fornicate, invent lies about God... so what has that form of prayer done for them? but then again this isn't salat issue.And I deliver to you my Lords messages.
what message is that? tell us.
also, it'd be great if you could tell us how you are recieving these messages.
but more importanity, WHAT is the message, whah does God want to tell us through you that He hasn't told us already in the quran?
now be careful with that last question. don't lie about God. -
There's a lot of reincarnation cases, i've studied this one. I'm speaking of a possibilities, not truth. So don't bother asking for proofs.
Dear Fadhl, I think there is a possibility that you are an incarnation of David Lewis. I'm speaking of a possibilities, not truth. So don't bother asking for proofs.
Peace,
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peace all)
we already had a proof but whatever. some say it's the daily prayers, some say it's upholding the communion, some say it's establishing the connection, some say it's reading the quran, some say it's meditating... is the method important or the results?
look at the ones who follow hadith who call salat prayer and do it the way they do it, then they beat their wives, chop off arms of thieves, kill or threaten others who don't share their belief system, insult, lie, fornicate, invent lies about God... so what has that form of prayer done for them? but then again this isn't salat issue.what message is that? tell us.
also, it'd be great if you could tell us how you are recieving these messages.
but more importanity, WHAT is the message, whah does God want to tell us through you that He hasn't told us already in the quran?
now be careful with that last question. don't lie about God.salat = prayer
that is the most clear and direct meaning for salat...
To be simple, All you have to do is pray to God dawn and evening...That is salat...the desired results...
the Quran says "And pray at the beginning and close of the day, during twilight. The good deeds take away the bad. This is a reminder for those who rememember."
It doesent say anything about pray and read and zakat and instrut your family in these verses...or pray in a method... it just says "pray"
The reading and prayer are two seperate deeds...That we are commanded to obsereve both, including the sermone, and the purification all in the same time frame ( e.g. dawn and evening ).
So this is what makes a communion. The communion consist of the above parts...
However the words communion, pray, implore, supplicate, ect... all are linked words, they mean the same thing, but are used diferently...
Meditation??? When you pray, and prostrate, and whatever you say must be done with much concentration... Do not set up any partner in the service of your Lord... One has to be careful and be aware of God ...
When prostrating it must be done with much concentration... God is invisible, so do not make anything, or prostrate to the sun or moon thinking that you are worshiping God... He put them there for the idolaters to worship... Prostrate to the One who created them, if it is Him you serve...
The ones who follow hadith they pray to God and to Muhammad... ( when they pray they say " Peace to you o Muhammad" as if Muhammad can hear them...) Thus they set up others next to God, when He alone is to be prayed to...And His name alone mentioned...
The results are always more important than methods...
Results is accomplishing something, however you get it done, as long as it gets done...( as long as you pray )
Methods is like- do this ,then do that, then say this, or to do it a certain way...kneel in prayer, prostrat, ect.. ( worship of God should be orderly and organized )
I am only required to recite to you the Quran, and purify you, and teach you the Scripture and the wisdom, and teach you what you do not know...
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The translation I read from is the one on Free-minds, all I said is bring ten translations of the Quran that is better than it...If u can...
And how long will the people continue to be in doubt??? When the truth has come...
And yes, God has made this English translation of the Quran to be easy in my language...And I dont find any crookedness in it...
- Layth will keep upgrading his translation, he has already changed it atleast 6 times in the last 1.5 years.
- Ok, I will, Muhammed Asad's, Muhammed Ali, Allama Noorudin's, QXP, Parwez's Exposition, Ahmed Ali, Edip Yuksel's, M. Mohar Ali's, Zohurul Hoque's, Colin Turner's New Translation, Fred Leemhuis. That are already 11 that are better on conveying the message.
- How do you know there is no crookedness in it? You can't even read Arabic and know the mistakes!!!
Stop this deluding yourself and stop the powertrip, it is sad to see it. You can keep quoting the Qur'an, but these words are for everyone to read already way before you and thus you do not bring any message at all, you are just parotting. You only quote a human-made fallible translation that is changed at least 2 in a year by the translator.
If you truly want to feel important and powerful, then stay real and help your enviroment, your neighbours and soceity with humaniterian work. Be the change instead of demanding it of others.
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"My work to me, and yours to you! ye are free from responsibility for what I do, and I for what ye do!"
AND what u accuse me of is an obvious lie!
This has nothin to do wit me wantin to feel important or whatever u call it, I find it way much easyer to just give up on the Spirit that has come to me, to save most of the disputs that goes on now,and the hastl of bein the messenger. but whp would give up on Gods spirit except one who fools himself??? And then again, so what... if I want to feel important, with God is all importance and pride...and with Him is all power. So what if I want to be His messenger and tell the message... Do u want to take that from me... without a valid reason... take away a persons inspirations and visions, because he believe in God and His words, and comes in the name of God...So they say " You are not a messenger"...and they say " If only a sign was sent down to him from his Lord!!! and " The hour will not come upon us!!!"
And they thought that God would not send anyone...
Whoever not wit me, then they can stay away from me...is how I feel...you can stay away from me, cause u think like everybody else and not like God...and most deny me for no other reason that i say im "Gods messenger."
Who are my supporters towards God???
And u can stop wit all the only Arabics can understand Quran and they only know what it says... You do not have proof, God guides whoever He wills to the path... For all I know is that the Arabs are the worst in rejection and hyporcrisy...and most likely not to know the limits of what God has sent down to His messenger...
You caint know mistakes either if God dont guide you, you or anyone else, regardless wheather u know arabic or not...
Nor can you grasp the Quran unless u purified and God guides you...
But im done goin back and forth wit the rejecters...
" If they cease, then what was before this will be forgiven, and if they return, then the examples of the previous generations have already been given.."
If im duluding myself with the quran and me claiming to be His messenger and I would be honored to even tell someone the good news, then hey, It is what it is...and Im responsible for what i do, and u to u...
Do you understand Quran? Are u better guided than one who doesnt know Arabic, because u know arabic, but God has put a barrier between u to prevent u from understandin it, and He has made things clear to one who doesnt know Arabic and guided him to the path by making the Quran easy in his language???
And yes I am what I know, therfore I can order it from others also...
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so what... if I want to feel important, with God is all importance and pride...and with Him is all power. So what if I want to be His messenger and tell the message... Do u want to take that from me... without a valid reason... take away a persons inspirations and visions, because he believe in God and His words, and comes in the name of God...So they say " You are not a messenger"...and they say " If only a sign was sent down to him from his Lord!!! and " The hour will not come upon us!!!"
I am already reading the Qur'an, using it as my only source and approaching it with an open mind, so why do I need you?
And they thought that God would not send anyone...
The message is already here, what is your function then? To parrot the message that everybody can read already?
you can stay away from me, cause u think like everybody else and not like God...and most deny me for no other reason that i say im "Gods messenger."
Nobody can think like God
1124 And there is absolutely none like Him."
We can only get knowledge of the creation to understand the Creator with our limited human brain, and His Will as expressed in the Qur'an.
We do not deny the Qur'an and its Authoritive message. So denying your claim is not denying the Qur'an nor its message. What is left then of your "function" or need to be one?
And u can stop wit all the only Arabics can understand Quran and they only know what it says... You do not have proof, God guides whoever He wills to the path... For all I know is that the Arabs are the worst in rejection and hyporcrisy...and most likely not to know the limits of what God has sent down to His messenger...
- I am not an Arab. So that comments makes no sense.
- A translation will give you a fair understanding of the Qur'an. BUT HOW CAN YOU CLAIM TO GIVE ORDERS ("OBEY ME" WHILE YOU CANNOT BE SURE YOUR ORDERS ARE CORRECT!!!!
- To get a far better understanding of the Qur'an, you at least need to study certain keywords of the Qur'an in the Arabic itself, to know all their meanings and the context.
You caint know mistakes either if God dont guide you, you or anyone else, regardless wheather u know arabic or not...
A translation can only guide you to the main subjects/themes, but details can never be displayed correctly by a translation alone.
The Qur'an is real, you are not.
Peace