What about the Sanaa manuscripts?
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Peace to all,
Has anyone ever heard of the sannaa manuscripts, and what significance, if any, do they have about the earliest history of the Quran. The reason i ask is because my father has lately been trying to bring up the subject of Islam, (since i told him im a muslim he has been trying to find out more about it basically to try to debunk it and make me become a roman catholic again), so anyways, yesterday we talked till about 330 a.m and he tried to tell me the Quran cant be from God becuase there is early archeological evidence that proves its not the same as todays Quran, or that since there were differences in it then that means Mohmmad couldnt have received some divine revelation from God, but that it was just a random collection of verses compiled over the years from different sources, etc. though his arguments make no difference to me, and will never change my faith, i listen to him out of respect and try to gently pursuade him, yet he thinks he knows religion better than me and thinks im just trying different things and that Islam is just a fad for me or something,. So, I did look up what were called the sannaa manuscripts, which is being used by some to try to debunk Islam and the Quran. So what do others here know about them or what is the significance of them,??
To me personally, they dont make much of a difference at all, even if they proved that the Quran came straight from a camels mouth, I would still believe it is the divine word of God, but maybe thats just me.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sana%27a_manuscripts
Kurt
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To me personally, they dont make much of a difference at all, even if they proved that the Quran came straight from a camels mouth, I would still believe it is the divine word of God, but maybe thats just me.
I believe that is what they call blind faith man ...
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Greetings & peace dear people, IronSky,
Try start from God alone and stick with God alone. For example, as for me
If there was a time when the universe was empty then now it would be empty because emptiness can't create anything, but it is not empty now - so it was never empty - something was always there - Nature/God. This non emptyniess which we call universe/creation is working under same universal rules/system in harmony, and we are forced to come here borned and leave from here dead - that non-empty truly Natural power/force which always existed which we call God is the only we thank, praise, ask for help, ask for forgiveness, want to be successful in His terms.
Now, when we stick to God alone, whatever the scripture/translation/verse/idea/book - if it makes sense in the view of praising/thank/accept God alone and doing good - I take it. I won't take it because "but it's in the quran!" or "but it's in the bible!".
Yes, very much agreed, if I hear things make sense about God alone from the quran, bible, etc.., or even a burning tree or angel or camel or reggae song (for example "Culture - Behold" or whatever, I'll agree and learn from its message. But parts that doesn't go with God alone, I don't take/agree with them - it doesn't make me any better in the objective of pleasing the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth. In the quran and bible also probably has lots of verses related to situations/missions of that time and not directed to us - I mean, I don't seem to see how can I be a better man from many verses (for example, abu lahab, war decisions, etc... they may give lessons, but probably not directed/talking to us), but it's certainly directed to other people at the prophet's time/mission.
It's like when you read a book, if it's logical then you agree with it. NOT because of the title of the book.
Although the Quran is much more "preserved"than other scriptures I know of (But not all "copies" or "trasmissions" or "versions" of the Quran are 100% the same worldwide in a few physical ways - they are still of much less different than other scriptures' "versions" - Let's thank God for letting us guidance through a more preserved scripture where lots of it makes sence in the theme of "beleive in God and do good". Even if you can or you can't verify a book's authenticity, it's just paper - there's still the problem of translation, interpretation, etc. Also, lots of verses directed to prophetic situations, war.. etc. But when we stick to God alone - we focus on God alone verses/scriptures/book/ideas/interpretations. Only the true God has the true Power of all things.
As I see it, the focus is God alone because of your sincere reason/logic (not because it's said in a book with a good title). Once we have this as our Criterion - we can go to the scriptures and take/learn from what is going with this objective/theme.
O0 So, as my humble suggestion, I don't know about the manuscripts but maybe you can try convince your dad about God alone and then see verses about God alone in bible, then quran (a lot of them go with God alone - thank God!) or other sources...
Jah Blessings!
Zidane.