Common misconceptions about Islam - help needed
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how about the misconception, that muslims imagine they have a divine claim to the temple mount/al aqsa or that israel is occupied by jewish people against the wishes of god who wants muslims to prove their faith by either lording over them in that land or ridding them from it. here is a link to the <a href="http//frontpagemag.com/articles/Read.aspx?GUID=134C7CDA-8B3A-44A2-AC6C-792B0B25F0EE">now in/famous frontpage interview</a> with Prof. Khaleel Mohammed who refutes this argument using the quran only. great interview. im planning on putting together a thread on this issue soon also.
edit not sure if this is classified as a muslim or non-muslim miconception or both. i guess one follows the other.
peace,
I think the Quran specifically states that the Children of Israel were blessed in a land.That by no means gives the present state of Palestine to present day Jews.
Or does anyone have any other Quranic verse that specifically allows the takeover of Palestinian land?
Now I am not supporting any "muslim" claim over Temple Mount. I do not think that the mix of people's in the land of Palestine should have been raped by fascism. This land was a diverse land populated by Arabs, Jews, Druze and others.
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how about the misconception, that muslims imagine they have a divine claim to the temple mount/al aqsa or that israel is occupied by jewish people against the wishes of god who wants muslims to prove their faith by either lording over them in that land or ridding them from it. here is a link to the <a href="http//frontpagemag.com/articles/Read.aspx?GUID=134C7CDA-8B3A-44A2-AC6C-792B0B25F0EE">now in/famous frontpage interview</a> with Prof. Khaleel Mohammed who refutes this argument using the quran only. great interview. im planning on putting together a thread on this issue soon also.
edit not sure if this is classified as a muslim or non-muslim miconception or both. i guess one follows the other.
It must be your misconception, because this is the first time I have heard of such a thing. Other that it is a question of colonialism, not a question of religion, unless we take that when the colonised country is propulated by muslims mainly or in part it has no right to get rid of the colonial situation.
SSalaam
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peace all,
I would like to compile a list of common misconceptions about Islam, that can be easily corrected using The Quran.
If you know of examples or articles discussing this, please state them here so I can review them.
The content will be released for all to use once done.
Thanks.Peace,.
Respectfully.People are under impression that Islam was spread by the sword and there is a sword on the flag of Saudi Arabia. We would need to point out the difference between us (Muslims) and them (sunnis).
Sunnis cannot find prayer in the Quran and say that Quran is not detailed.
People think that Muslims and/or sunnis are converting others into Islam while they don't see that God is The One Who guides people to the truth or leaves them to wander blindly, God opens your heart towards Islam or seals it.
Christians think that we worship a black cube in the desert.
How can we deal with all this?
How do we explain?
How do we present Quran to the world, when sunnis have destroyed the true and real image of Islam and presented us in this way?Glory be to God.
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Christians think that we worship a black cube in the desert.
haha I like that. The Qur'an will find it's way to people, Ma Sha'a Allah. I believe it should be promoted, but only to those who seek it. It shouldn't be forced on people. Qur'an teaching and the definition of Islam should be made known to people who are oblivious to it and may not be arrogant enough to insult it yet. If my Father didn't buy me a Qur'an I may never have read it and continued on as I was. I think God has given the believers the duty to spread the Word to those who seek it. It is mentioned when God is talking about idolaters who they waged war with surrendering and being taught about the Scriptures. I believe it is injust to hold the Qur'an message within ourselves and not share it. We shouldn't preach, but we should make it known subtly. I use Qur'an verses on Facebook that allows you to select verses of the Qur'an and put it on your profile in Arabic and a translation of your choice (English or many others) or a transliteration. If anyone is interested in using that on Facebook pm or something. Peace
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Salaam to all
Question, if we are supposed to study and verify all things, as stated in this forum many times, wouldnt writing all these things, make people more lazy as the Hadiths did...are we doing the same thing again?
Why open Quran and study anything..or learn arabic...if all of you will make it easy for me, not to have to investigate and confirm.
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Salam,
The misconceptions in my opinion are as follows
1- Allah is the God for Muslims.
2- Muslims are inherently violent (suicide bombers).
3- Muslims are supposed to have 4 wives.
4- Cutting the hands of thieves.
5- Dress code for men and women.
6- Praying 5 times a day.
7- Halal meat.Salam
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Progress on my end about this has been slow. Mainly because I thought it would simply be a case of reviewing articles already written and refining them to compile a simple list. Little did I realise there is hardly any good quality information like this out there (no wonder people are being misled!) so a significant part has to be done from scratch, and I dont have that kind of time at the moment.
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So now we have
-death for apostasy
-women must fully cover up
-stoning to death sanctioned
-must be "Muslim" or you will go to "hell"
-no freedom of religion
-beating women- women confined to houses
- man ruler over women
- singing forbidden
- listening to songs forbidden
- images and statues forbidden
- having beard is "islamic"
- Male circumcision
- Female circumcision
- Women and men can't shake hands
- Treatment of pigs disliked
- Visiting churches forbidden
- Men and women can't be alone (e.g. a male cab driver can't have a female passenger)
- Gelatin is forbidden
- There is such a thing is "holy war" in quran.
- Some verses override others
- Quran commands acceptance of hadeeth
- Quran cannot be interpreted by laymen
- Muhammad was completely illiterate
- Muhammad kept slaves
- Women can't driver cars
- Sex education impermissible
- Cutting of hands
- Womans testimony only half that of a man
- Zakat is 2.5%
- Alcohol is forbidden not only terms of lifestyle consumption
- You can't stand and pee
- No such thing as rape in marriage
- Reading quran in arabic without understanding arabic earns you "good points".
- Forced marriage
- Honor killings
- Arab superiority
- Blind belief
- 72 virgins
- Hajj is obligatory only for Muslims.
- Writing a will is useless and not binding
- Polygamy
- Slavery
- women can't travel without a ma7ram
- Hawa (Eve) is the wife of Adam
- woman is created from the rib of man
-violence against non-muslims/pagans in chpt 9
-Why can a husband beat his wife?
-Why is a man able to have have more than one wife?
-Why are women being oppressed?
-How can they force marriage on their children?
-Why are honor killings allowed?
-Why do men have to grow a beard?
-Why do women have to cover themselves completely?
-If statues are not accceptable then why do muslims pray toward a brick building?
-How can we respect a man who married a 9 year old girl?
-Why does the son let his mother control his life after he becomes an adult?
-Why did a religious leader spread his religion by sword
-Why was Islam spread by sword
-Why can men have sex with their slaves(what their right hand possess).
-Muhammad(pbuh) influenced by satan leading to satanic verses in koran(after verses 19 and 20 ("Have you thought of Allt and al-'Uzz and Mant the third, the other?" - Allah is the God for Muslims.
- Muslims are inherently violent (suicide bombers).
- Muslims are supposed to have 4 wives.
- Cutting the hands of thieves.
- Dress code for men and women.
- Praying 5 times a day.
- Halal meat.
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Peace Wakas,
Progress on my end about this has been slow. Mainly because I thought it would simply be a case of reviewing articles already written and refining them to compile a simple list. Little did I realise there is hardly any good quality information like this out there (no wonder people are being misled!) so a significant part has to be done from scratch, and I dont have that kind of time at the moment.
I think that perhaps asking the opposite question might help.
What are common valid conceptions about peacemaking? You will find that people inherently have many similar conceptions of what peacemaking entails. On the other hand, ask them about the common valid conceptions about Islam and you will find zero.
So instead of wasting your time finding endless misconceptions, I would suggest correcting the concept from the meaningless Islam to the universal concept of peacemaking and then all those misconceptions will disappear because everyone knows what peacemaking is based on our god-given instinct.
Peace,
Ayman
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This book by Prof. Fry proves peace-making is not only within human nature, war in itself is a deviation of human nature and evolution
http//www.amazon.com/Beyond-War-Human-Potential-Peace/dp/0195309480/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220803206&sr=1-1
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Beyond War The Human Potential for Peace (Hardcover)
by Douglas P. Fry (Author) -
I am not sure that this is the right place to jump in but I could use some information on this topic. I am a Catholic who reads the Quran every night and who believes the Mohammad is a Prophet. I frankly do not believe in the divinity of Jesus and tend to look at him as a prophet as well. The Quran actually agrees with many scholars on it's view of the historical Jesus, (however most of them believe that he was crucified). I have gone to Friday services at a Shia (sp?) mosque and have frequently gone to a Sunni Mosque near my home. However, it is hard to leave a faith that my wife and my family embrase and that is such an intricate part of my background and support system.
One of my problems is that while I have found the Muslims I have met to be friendly and encouraging, their cultural orientation is usually very different than my own. Furthermore, the practices that appear to be outlined in the Hadith are for me, overwelming and often appear to be at odds with the world I operate in. How could I tell my wife that she needs to wear a head covering? Most of the Muslims I meet come from families that are Muslim-mine is not. There are other issues that I am struggling with. Possibly much of this is simply my hesitation in changing faiths and saying the Shahada, but I am interested in the idea of "God alone"
Whitaker
PS this is not a new issue. I have been reading the Quran for years and at one point belonged to another web site called "Progressive Muslims". Some of this truely is my own problem, however I would like to continue this dialoge again and would appreciate any imput you all would care to give. -
Peace Arnold,
This book by Prof. Fry proves peace-making is not only within human nature, war in itself is a deviation of human nature and evolution
Beyond War The Human Potential for Peace (Hardcover)
by Douglas P. Fry (Author)Thanks for the info about the book. It looks interesting. I will check it out.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace Whitaker,
One of my problems is that while I have found the Muslims I have met to be friendly and encouraging, their cultural orientation is usually very different than my own. Furthermore, the practices that appear to be outlined in the Hadith are for me, overwelming and often appear to be at odds with the world I operate in. How could I tell my wife that she needs to wear a head covering? Most of the Muslims I meet come from families that are Muslim-mine is not. There are other issues that I am struggling with. Possibly much of this is simply my hesitation in changing faiths and saying the Shahada, but I am interested in the idea of "God alone"
Peacemaking/"islam" (lower case "i" is not a fraternity that we join by dressing a certain way or uttering some formula. It is an action. So you have to be a peacemaker ("muslim". If you have faith in the truth from the god then you should use it to contrast with falsehood. This way you will be able to better recognize both.
Peace,
Ayman
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So now we have
-death for apostasy
-women must fully cover up
-stoning to death sanctioned
-must be "Muslim" or you will go to "hell"
-no freedom of religion
-beating women- women confined to houses
- man ruler over women
- singing forbidden
- listening to songs forbidden
- images and statues forbidden
- having beard is "islamic"
- Male circumcision
- Female circumcision
- Women and men can't shake hands
- Treatment of pigs disliked
- Visiting churches forbidden
- Men and women can't be alone (e.g. a male cab driver can't have a female passenger)
- Gelatin is forbidden
- There is such a thing is "holy war" in quran.
- Some verses override others
- Quran commands acceptance of hadeeth
- Quran cannot be interpreted by laymen
- Muhammad was completely illiterate
- Muhammad kept slaves
- Women can't driver cars
- Sex education impermissible
- Cutting of hands
- Womans testimony only half that of a man
- Zakat is 2.5%
- Alcohol is forbidden not only terms of lifestyle consumption
- You can't stand and pee
- No such thing as rape in marriage
- Reading quran in arabic without understanding arabic earns you "good points".
- Forced marriage
- Honor killings
- Arab superiority
- Blind belief
- 72 virgins
- Hajj is obligatory only for Muslims.
- Writing a will is useless and not binding
- Polygamy
- Slavery
- women can't travel without a ma7ram
- Hawa (Eve) is the wife of Adam
- woman is created from the rib of man
-violence against non-muslims/pagans in chpt 9
-Why can a husband beat his wife?
-Why is a man able to have have more than one wife?
-Why are women being oppressed?
-How can they force marriage on their children?
-Why are honor killings allowed?
-Why do men have to grow a beard?
-Why do women have to cover themselves completely?
-If statues are not accceptable then why do muslims pray toward a brick building?
-How can we respect a man who married a 9 year old girl?
-Why does the son let his mother control his life after he becomes an adult?
-Why did a religious leader spread his religion by sword
-Why was Islam spread by sword
-Why can men have sex with their slaves(what their right hand possess).
-Muhammad(pbuh) influenced by satan leading to satanic verses in koran(after verses 19 and 20 ("Have you thought of Allt and al-'Uzz and Mant the third, the other?" - Allah is the God for Muslims.
- Muslims are inherently violent (suicide bombers).
- Muslims are supposed to have 4 wives.
- Cutting the hands of thieves.
- Dress code for men and women.
- Praying 5 times a day.
- Halal meat.
Let's start with beards
