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Can Allah Create ANYTHING?

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    anthonywallace
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    Actually, he leaves the work to his off spring, the creator gods who are him.
    The first source/father is the facilitator.

    Just like the many branches of a tree create the new twigs and leaves, while it is still the trunk who makes it all possible.
    Yes, there is one trunk. But humans are not his first and immediate creation of it. The heavens are filled with earlier creations, spirits, creators, angels etc. and they need to have something to do you know
    We are 4th generation.

    Then why does He torture elektro brickwall you for your sins? voodoo

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    elektro

    No, you are no more than a human being of what He has created. He forgives whom He wishes, and He elektro voodoo whoever He pleases....Actually He creates whatever He pleases. When He says to a thing He says " be" and it is... hypno

    You will be defeated and gathered towards Hell! What a miserable destiny! elektro & elektro elektro

    You and your forefathers... group

    The God knows what you say...Out of your mouth...your god is One god. There is no god but He...And I am innocent of what you set up beside him and what you set up below him. angel

    And do not give parables to God. He knows while you do not know...
    nope

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      alan
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      God creates what He pleases. When He says to somethin " be" then it is.

      When did He last do that?
      Anyway why would he bother creating when He is perfect and in need of nothing?

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        IronSky
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        Peace to all ,

        He creates in order to give us all an opportunity to enjoy eternal peace, by spreading the truth of himself to us and through us, why do we have children ourselves, it would be better for us to save our resources and money to make ourselves more self suficient, yet we have children though it is a financial and physical hardship, then we love our children and try to spread the truths we know and learned to them with the hope that they too will walk in truth and justice towards God. He created then continued his creation with us as his primary beneficiaries, done only out of his supreme grace and love. He is grateful for those of us that are greatful to him for this, so if your not then so be it but pay the price of unbelief, someday.

        Kurt

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          alan
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          Peace to all ,

          He creates in order to give us all an opportunity to enjoy eternal peace, by spreading the truth of himself to us and through us, why do we have children ourselves, it would be better for us to save our resources and money to make ourselves more self suficient, yet we have children though it is a financial and physical hardship, then we love our children and try to spread the truths we know and learned to them with the hope that they too will walk in truth and justice towards God. He created then continued his creation with us as his primary beneficiaries, done only out of his supreme grace and love. He is grateful for those of us that are greatful to him for this, so if your not then so be it but pay the price of unbelief, someday.

          Kurt

          That sounds like a threat,you speak for God?Sounds like,if you dont agree with me,the boggy man will get you,or my big brother!
          We have children,because of our genetic need to reproduce,replicate and keep the genetic chain going.He(God)has no need to do this...doeas he?He has no NEEDS,He is perfect and self sufficient.

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            IronSky
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            Peace to all,

            whay you talking about, it aint a threat from me dude, its a warning from God, he will punish someday not me, if you dont believe then so be it, and you say we reproduce because of a genetic need? did your gens command you to do this or do you choose, i know many who choose to never have any children, so is it just a genetic command, and who commanded the gens in the first place to desire to recreate themselves, what caused the original inner urge, and since you know what God needs or dont, it is you that claim to know Gods purpose, he in fact told the angels after creation, I know what you know not, is this not good enough for you, even though it is enough for the angels and the believers?

            are you a believer?

            Kurt

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              alan
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              Peace to all,

              whay you talking about, it aint a threat from me dude, its a warning from God, he will punish someday not me, if you dont believe then so be it, and you say we reproduce because of a genetic need? did your gens command you to do this or do you choose, i know many who choose to never have any children, so is it just a genetic command, and who commanded the gens in the first place to desire to recreate themselves, what caused the original inner urge, and since you know what God needs or dont, it is you that claim to know Gods purpose, he in fact told the angels after creation, I know what you know not, is this not good enough for you, even though it is enough for the angels and the believers?

              are you a believer?

              To deny the truth is to go into darkness,that is the judgement.

              Kurt

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                alan
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                You sem to have a limited understanding of your God,as you limit him by asying he has to operate through created beings,angels.

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                  anthonywallace
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                  When did He last do that?
                  Anyway why would he bother creating when He is perfect and in need of nothing?

                  When did He last do it? You tell me...

                  Why did He bother creating you when He is perfect and in need of nothin? Il tell you why...So that you may be thankful and He only created u to serve Him...

                  And whatever u do good or in the cause of God is for your own soul...And whoever reject, then God is Rich, the Praiseworthy...

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                    alan
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                    When did He last do it? You tell me...

                    Why did He bother creating you when He is perfect and in need of nothin? Il tell you why...So that you may be thankful and He only created u to serve Him...

                    And whatever u do good or in the cause of God is for your own soul...And whoever reject, then God is Rich, the Praiseworthy...

                    But He is perfect and self sufficient,he doesnt need me,or any servants.

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                      IronSky
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                      Peace to all

                      alen, it is not me that has a limited knowledge of God, I never said he had to operate through created things, I said he created and continued his creation, which we are part of, but as to his reason for it I dont know and do not need to know as you seem to demand, I said he told the angels that he knows what we dont know , which is the perfect answer for me, since I actually believe in God and I also believe that he knows what I dont know, I will accept God and take him at his word, which is in fact a conscious decision I have taken to belief and have faith in him and his answers, I do not need to ask that which I do not need to know, it will not change me one bit if I knew why God created us, it is you that are limiting yourself by saying God is perfect and self sufficient but you dont believe whay you say, you demand to know from God what he wouldnt even tell the angels, what arrogance, what disbelief.

                      Kurt

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                        anthonywallace
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                        But He is perfect and self sufficient,he doesnt need me,or any servants.

                        I know he doesnt need you, therefor if you thank God then you are only thankin Him for ur own good...and if you reject God then He doesnt like rejection from His servants...

                        If you support God you do so for ur own self, and if you dont then He is in no need of you, and those who oppose Him and are too arrogant to serve Him will have a torture...

                        And those who are at Him are not too proud to serve Him nor do they complain, they glorify in the night and the day, they do not cease....Even those God is in no need of them or there praises...

                        And sucssesful is the one who betters his soul...

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                          luthador_sucks
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                          Can Allah create a rock so heavy that even he couldn't lift it?

                          (If you have a panthiestic view of Allah then ignore my question)

                          Well this post is too big so I am not gonna read whole thing, and do not reply to this post either coz I aint comin back in this topic.
                          May peace of Allah be upon you. Well if you think it in your own way in that manner then it wouldnt make sense, because it is us who are limited not Allah, so Allah can do things beyond your wildest dreams

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                            alan
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                            "I know he doesnt need you, therefor if you thank God then you are only thankin Him for ur own good...and if you reject God then He doesnt like rejection from His servants..."

                            The above is a contradiction.

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                              anthonywallace
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                              "I know he doesnt need you, therefor if you thank God then you are only thankin Him for ur own good...and if you reject God then He doesnt like rejection from His servants..."

                              The above is a contradiction.

                              We had given Luqqman the wisdom " You shall be thankful to God, and whoever is being thankful is only being thankful for his own good, and whoever rejects then God is the Rich, the Praiseworthy...The self sufficient..."

                              So what if you think it is a contradiction... God is in no need of your praises, if u praise Him its for your self...And if u dont then God is self suffietent He dont need your praises, and He will replace u wit a people who wont reject...

                              Just like the angels, they praise God night and day without stoping... God doesnt need their praises, they do so for their own selves....

                              whatever good u do is for urself...

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                                alan
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                                I find no contradiction in what youve just said,its what I said.Previously you said God doesnt like it,which contradicts his transcendance,reffered to in Luqqman.

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                                  anthonywallace
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                                  I find no contradiction in what youve just said,its what I said.Previously you said God doesnt like it,which contradicts his transcendance,reffered to in Luqqman.

                                  397 If you reject, then know that God is in no need of you, and He dislikes rejection for His servants. And if you are appreciative, He is pleased for you. And none shall bear the burdens of another. Then to your Lord is your return, and He will inform you of everything you had done. He is fully aware of what is inside the chests.

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                                    397 If you reject, then know that God is in no need of you, and He dislikes rejection for His servants. And if you are appreciative, He is pleased for you. And none shall bear the burdens of another. Then to your Lord is your return, and He will inform you of everything you had done. He is fully aware of what is inside the chests.

                                    Precisely,it is like a mirror,your understanding is that God is other than life.

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                                      sirohey
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                                      Yes! and do go beyond that answer ... as He knows and we know not.

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                                        SubmitterToGOD
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                                        i have another question......

                                        Can mankind create a question so stupid that he himself could not answer it? rotfl

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