women's dress code question?
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Put it this way luthador_sucks. If The God wanted to mention covering the head(raas) he would have said so...law giving verse are clear like he said and he wouldn't have left it to guess work or confusion.
For me its clear no head covering.....its only confusing if you don't let go of your tradition and culture.
PEACE
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salam luthador. no you are wrong, you have seen the verse, i translated it for you and you are being blind. there is no reason to continue in dispute.
i will repeat it again, dont ignore what i post
allah says in surah al nur 241 this surah has been sent upon you and made obligatory and sent upon within ayat between them that you may speak them. 2431 says and say to the momin women lower their sight and protect their purity and not display their adornment except what is open and set forth their head cover to their bosom.
the word head cover is right there in 2431 there is no dispute whatseover of its existence. head cover is head cover. whether you use a tarpaulin, mattress, blanket, hijab, shawl, burqa, niqab, is a poor attempt to reduce the verse to an absurd extreme. the verse says head covering, therefore a woman must use a head covering. dont be one of those people whom the quran refers to as those who read a verse and then go what does allah mean by this verse. if you are a woman cover your head in public and at home before strangers.
allah is the teacher.
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Put it this way luthador_sucks. If The God wanted to mention covering the head(raas) he would have said so...law giving verse are clear like he said and he wouldn't have left it to guess work or confusion.
For me its clear no head covering.....its only confusing if you don't let go of your tradition and culture.
PEACE
Thank you prince, may peace of Allah be upon you.
Well, I am from bangladesh, in my culture there is no head covering fashion at all. In fact most muslim women in my country do not cover. -
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Salaam Al Araf
You cited this verse
2431 says and say to the momin women lower their sight and protect their purity and not display their adornment except what is open and set forth their head cover to their bosom.
My question is Who is asked to say to the momin women?
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salam luthador. no you are wrong, you have seen the verse, i translated it for you and you are being blind. there is no reason to continue in dispute.
i will repeat it again, dont ignore what i post
allah says in surah al nur 241 this surah has been sent upon you and made obligatory and sent upon within ayat between them that you may speak them. 2431 says and say to the momin women lower their sight and protect their purity and not display their adornment except what is open and set forth their head cover to their bosom.
the word head cover is right there in 2431 there is no dispute whatseover of its existence. head cover is head cover. whether you use a tarpaulin, mattress, blanket, hijab, shawl, burqa, niqab, is a poor attempt to reduce the verse to an absurd extreme. the verse says head covering, therefore a woman must use a head covering. dont be one of those people whom the quran refers to as those who read a verse and then go what does allah mean by this verse. if you are a woman cover your head in public and at home before strangers.
allah is the teacher.
well, that is why i go to different sites as you can see that i am blind lol, well, did you translate that by your self? well in every other translation i see no head over there, even the one in my own language (bengali). And why then this website(free-minds.org) is saying that head covering is not mandatory?
well, I understand your view, but plz take no offense but I am taking what you are saying as a point of view because in the other translations I've seen no where it says head. Well thank you I appreciate it a lot D. Now, some one else reply plz, I need to know more people's perspective. -
well, that is why i go to different sites as you can see that i am blind lol, well, did you translate that by your self? well in every other translation i see no head over there, even the one in my own language (bengali). And why then this website(free-minds.org) is saying that head covering is not mandatory?
well, I understand your view, but plz take no offense but I am taking what you are saying as a point of view because in the other translations I've seen no where it says head. Well thank you I appreciate it a lot . Now, some one else reply plz, I need to know more people's perspective.al-afran reply here first
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salam luthador. what you are saying is most women in your country dont obey the quran, and you wish to advise others this is the right way?
allah is the knower.
hey hey there, take it easy now. I thought this was supposed to be a free minded muslims forum, but you seem to be over bearingly conservative. Well, I really do not know whose translation your using, is it done by your self? Well I am using the translations of dr.rashad khalifa. In his one, I already showed the word head is not found and other interpreters(in this website and quran-islam.org) are apparently saying that the words khamir (or something like that, sorry i forgot as i am dull) is mistranslated to covering head when it should have been bosom. well what they are showing is more logical and i've compared it one in my own language and it matches. Well anyway now I want to know what other people of this forum says, i understand what you are saying and thank you. D. and plz I really do not want to start a debate with you the reason why I objected was because of those websites and in the translated version i use, i did not find head as mentioned in those sites. So if you debate, plz prove the people of those websites(including this one) first. thank you.
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peace LS, Al araf is the only recently frequent member i know of on this forum who takes this position regarding the head scarf issue. trawling the forum sections or using the search function is a good way to find all the threads which discuss the matter. (wakas should be proud of me )
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peace LS, Al araf is the only recently frequent member i know of on this forum who takes this position regarding the head scarf issue. trawling the forum sections or using the search function is a good way to find all the threads which discuss the matter. (wakas should be proud of me )
Well could you please show me the links to thosw? If you do I'd really appreciate it.
Al Afran, again I thank you a lot for sharing, but it is only your perspective, please do not start critizing me, remember you are not Allah, you may not assert (i got this line from a book called will of allah, lol its cool). Now I need to know other people's perpective as well so thank you al afran i appreciate.
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salam samia. allah does not name a person who is to say this to believing women. therefore i believe to raise this as an issue is outside the quran.
allah is the best of those who teach.
Salaam Al Araf
How is it an issue outside the qur'aan?
Do you have any other example from the qur'aan where God issues a command just in this way, through "say", a third party? Is this even the language of the many commands and prohibitions in this chapter? -
Salaam Al Araf
How is it an issue outside the qur'aan?
Do you have any other example from the qur'aan where God issues a command just in this way, through "say", a third party? Is this even the language of the many commands and prohibition ins this chapter?hey salam, what is your point of view on hijab/head scarf?
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al-afran plz see my above posts and once again thank you. -
ls,
Let me explain it simply, the verse says "draw your khimaar over your chest". The word khimaar in Classical Arabic dictionaries can mean "headcover" as well as any "cover". So, it is possible to interpret it as "headcover" but that is not the only option.I recommend the search fucntion.
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Slaam luthador_sucks
His name is Al Araf, not Al Afran. Please be careful with names.
oops sorry heha(embarrassed) my mistake
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ls,
Let me explain it simply, the verse says "draw your khimaar over your chest". The word khimaar in Classical Arabic dictionaries can mean "headcover" as well as any "cover". So, it is possible to interpret it as "headcover" but that is not the only option.I recommend the search fucntion.
well in this website(free-mind.org)it is saying head scarf isnt mandatory. And in search function what should i type?
