where is Allah?
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The example of the tree also shows that monotheism is erroneous, therefore not a teaching of god.
Truth is mono-source-ism that includes many creator gods/branches. (hinduism Brahma created all gods)
The belief in one god only, is only one god away from godlessness. When introduced to early, the law of economics dictate war over a very scarce and much valued commodity the only remaining god.
This leads to the conclusion that monotheism is an untimely introduced distorted truth, and distortion and untimeliness are standard tricks of satan, who knows how to 'play the truth'.
Just observe the bloody history of monotheist cultures and the sad state of the world that is its result.Now read the tora again (accepted as gods word by quran) and you will see more than one god mentioned.
But all gods/branches are the one tree. As are the leaves/twigs/you.Why, then, does the Torah and al-Qur'an describe The God as "ONE GOD"? If there are really many gods deserving of worshippers, why does God call those who worship them "idolators"? What was He referring to when He instructed us to follow the religion/belief/creed/milla of Ibraheem?
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I strongly suggest to do away with all books and intellectual folly.
Look at nature, the only book god ever wrote himself.you can easily see that nature has a repetitive system, it is holographic by design.
Observe a tree. God-source is the trunk, you are a leaf.
Which means your immediate creator is not god-source but his created creator-twig you are hanging on.
Yet, all branches, twigs and leaves are nourished by him and follow his creative rules.You can also see a leave as our universe among countless universes in the omniverse. Holographic, remember?
Observe the many wonders in nature and you will be connected with all knowledge you seek.
The so called pagan tree worshipers knew what they were doing, they understood creation and saw the tree was its perfect symbol.
The so called cow worshipers (hindu's) know what they are doing, they understand that the giving character of a cow is a perfect symbol of gods love.
Granting its life giving nectar/milk to all who want it. Even to 'alien' species like humans, even when these humans eventually eat her. Beautiful.
It is the physically oriented and spiritually ignorant that can do no other than to misunderstand this and assume it is the meat of the cow that is worshiped.The example of the tree also shows that monotheism is erroneous, therefore not a teaching of god.
Truth is mono-source-ism that includes many creator gods/branches. (hinduism Brahma created all gods)
The belief in one god only, is only one god away from godlessness. When introduced to early, the law of economics dictate war over a very scarce and much valued commodity the only remaining god.
This leads to the conclusion that monotheism is an untimely introduced distorted truth, and distortion and untimeliness are standard tricks of satan, who knows how to 'play the truth'.
Just observe the bloody history of monotheist cultures and the sad state of the world that is its result.Now read the tora again (accepted as gods word by quran) and you will see more than one god mentioned.
But all gods/branches are the one tree. As are the leaves/twigs/you.
.Whoever of them says " I am god besides Him". Then that person will be punished with Hell. It is such that We punish the wicked.
Your god is One God.
Those that you are worshipping besides God are nothing but idols.
And He is the One who created you and all that you worship...
Did the news not come to u of Pharoh, and Aad, and Thamud. And the people of Noah.
Roam the earth and see how was the end of those before. Most of them had set up idols.
And pharoh said' I am your lord, the most high." So God seized him with retribution in the Hearafter, as well as in the first life...
This is a reminder to those who remember.
Do not make with God another god, or you will find yourself discraced, abandoned. You will be cast into Hell blamworthy and regreting.
And this is what your Lord has inspired to you of the wisdom...
And do not say "trinity" cease. Your god is but One God. My Lord and your Lord, so serve Him.
The Lord of Sirus.
It is not your ability to cause the growth of its trees.
The God bears truth. Follow the creed of Abraham. The Monothest, and he was not of those who set up partners...
Or are you teaching God about your system? Bring your proof if u are truthful...
Or have you taken besides him gods who create the like of what He created, so they seemed the same?
And do not give parables to God. God knows while you do not know.
Who then has any power against The God if He wanted to destroy you , your mother, and all who are on Earth? And to God belonges the soverinty of heavens and earth. He creates what He pleases.
Do you see? What if God made the daylight eternal untill the Day of Resurection? Which god, besides God can provide you with night for your rest?
It is inspired to me that your god is One God, so do you submit to Him?
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Your response is a typical example of a person who is not able/willing to go beyond his/her programming and to see beyond the wording.
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Can't you see you are merely playing a mindless word game?Anyone who can read beyond elementary school level can see that my story does not conflict with your quotes, it only makes the splendor of gods creation/heavens somewhat more visible.
Yes, there is no god besides him, but that does not exclude the fact that there are many below him; the many whom he created to do his work.
The use of the word ?besides? and omission of the word ?below? shows how deceiving texts can be for the misinformed.I never claimed there are two god-sources or two trunks. I said there is only one.
Please take my advise about observing nature rather then books.Your Lord of Sirus is from Sirius, a near by star. Nowadays many would call such lord an advanced alien.
He is not god-source (or the trunk in my examle) but a created...whatever.
It is widely known that the sirian civilization was heavily involved in our evolution.Would your father condemn you to burn in hell for eternity if you would seriously err? I do not think so. No earthly father would (unless brain washed by the devil).
Is god the lesser father? NO!! He is the perfect father.
I declare the teaching that god condemns anyone to hell a false teaching.Yes, he has prepared a hell. But only to accommodate those who feel attracted to it and choose to go there.
That's the portion of humanity that has not learned from our endless suffering and still believe in violence, power, killing in 'gods name' , intolerance, hate and fear.
For these emotions/convictions there is no place in heaven, so if you have a desire to further explore them you are granted entrance to a place that is to your liking, which is called hell. Then you and your likes may make it as hellish as you please. Just as has been the case on earth for too long.
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Your response is a typical example of a person who is not able/willing to go beyond his/her programming and to see beyond the wording.
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Can't you see you are merely playing a mindless word game?Anyone who can read beyond elementary school level can see that my story does not conflict with your quotes, it only makes the splendor of gods creation/heavens somewhat more visible.
Yes, there is no god besides him, but that does not exclude the fact that there are many below him; the many whom he created to do his work.
The use of the word ?besides? and omission of the word ?below? shows how deceiving texts can be for the misinformed.I never claimed there are two god-sources or two trunks. I said there is only one.
Please take my advise about observing nature rather then books.Your Lord of Sirus is from Sirius, a near by star. Nowadays many would call such lord an advanced alien.
He is not god-source (or the trunk in my examle) but a created...whatever.
It is widely known that the sirian civilization was heavily involved in our evolution.Would your father condemn you to burn in hell for eternity if you would seriously err? I do not think so. No earthly father would (unless brain washed by the devil).
Is god the lesser father? NO!! He is the perfect father.
I declare the teaching that god condemns anyone to hell a false teaching.Yes, he has prepared a hell. But only to accommodate those who feel attracted to it and choose to go there.
That's the portion of humanity that has not learned from our endless suffering and still believe in violence, power, killing in 'gods name' , intolerance, hate and fear.
For these emotions/convictions there is no place in heaven, so if you have a desire to further explore them you are granted entrance to a place that is to your liking, which is called hell. Then you and your likes may make it as hellish as you please. Just as has been the case on earth for too long.
I assume however that you wish to 'graduate'.Can't you see you are merely playing a mindless word game?
Then why does God torture you for your sins?
Why shall I take your advice rather than Gods source of law, His books?
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Can't you see you are merely playing a mindless word game?
No I can't, because I don't, because I did not play on words from earlier messages on this topic but used my own arguments. wow... Then why does God torture you for your sins?
God does not torture. He gave us free will and we can choose to step outside the divine boundaries that define and guarantee only his attributes of love, goodness, beauty, bliss. We cause our own torture by choosing to step 'out of line'. You can argue that this tendency is a design flaw and blame him for it, but then you miss a very important lesson and also an all-important fact
The lesson is that we must learn to take responsability for our actions.
The all-important fact is that... we are juvenile creators, gods in the making after his image and must learn the consequences of abusing the power he plans to give us. One war in heaven is enough...
I know you hate me using the word 'god' for the many created gods and actually you are right actually, all created gods and us who are to become creator gods are really his extensions. There is still one god. That's why I gave you the example of the tree.
If we not not purely his extensions, we are outside of his boundaries of perfection and will cause havoc.
It is the greatest wonder and most magnificent gift even though there is only one god, he manifests in countless creator gods who are him. Like all branches are the tree, like all waves in the ocean are the ocean, like all part of your body are your body.
Yet, the created parts have an awareness of their own, so that the One can own all these awarenesses. Truly wondrous.He also gave free will to other (alien) species, some of which are abusing them just like us and against us.
He also made the law of attraction like attracts like, as a learning tool.
We attracted the wrong guys and have been abused by those superior entities for thousands of years (mind control).
But their time is up now, and we will (hopefully) have learned our lesson.Why shall I take your advice rather than Gods source of law, His books?
Because you are ready for it. If you aren't, you won't. wow
Because you are mistaken to believe that my message conflicts with your verses, which shows that you have difficulty with texts from a strange time and a strange culture. I say what your verses say, but I explain in more detail.
Because the simplicity of my message is so obvious and undeniable, except for those fallen victim to fear based programming. &God gave you free will to explore, so your explorations become his.
Adhering to popular view is his disappointment, for you bring him no new experience.
Your only task in this world is expanding your mind and seek him...by becoming him!
There is no other way and it involves becoming less of you, dissolving the ego that seeks it own survival.
A glorious enterprise and still some time left to make it. (Some, not much...)
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No I can't, because I don't, because I did not play on words from earlier messages on this topic but used my own arguments. wow
God does not torture. He gave us free will and we can choose to step outside the divine boundaries that define and guarantee only his attributes of love, goodness, beauty, bliss. We cause our own torture by choosing to step 'out of line'. You can argue that this tendency is a design flaw and blame him for it, but then you miss a very important lesson and also an all-important fact
The lesson is that we must learn to take responsability for our actions.
The all-important fact is that... we are juvenile creators, gods in the making after his image and must learn the consequences of abusing the power he plans to give us. One war in heaven is enough...
I know you hate me using the word 'god' for the many created gods and actually you are right actually, all created gods and us who are to become creator gods are really his extensions. There is still one god. That's why I gave you the example of the tree.
If we not not purely his extensions, we are outside of his boundaries of perfection and will cause havoc.
It is the greatest wonder and most magnificent gift even though there is only one god, he manifests in countless creator gods who are him. Like all branches are the tree, like all waves in the ocean are the ocean, like all part of your body are your body.
Yet, the created parts have an awareness of their own, so that the One can own all these awarenesses. Truly wondrous.He also gave free will to other (alien) species, some of which are abusing them just like us and against us.
He also made the law of attraction like attracts like, as a learning tool.
We attracted the wrong guys and have been abused by those superior entities for thousands of years (mind control).
But their time is up now, and we will (hopefully) have learned our lesson. Because you are ready for it. If you aren't, you won't. wow
Because you are mistaken to believe that my message conflicts with your verses, which shows that you have difficulty with texts from a strange time and a strange culture. I say what your verses say, but I explain in more detail.
Because the simplicity of my message is so obvious and undeniable, except for those fallen victim to fear based programming. &God gave you free will to explore, so your explorations become his.
Adhering to popular view is his disappointment, for you bring him no new experience.
Your only task in this world is expanding your mind and seek him...by becoming him!
There is no other way and it involves becoming less of you, dissolving the ego that seeks it own survival.
A glorious enterprise and still some time left to make it. (Some, not much...)
.No, u are no more than a human being of what He created. He forgive whoever He pleases and He tourtures elektro whoever He pleases... And to God is the soverinty of heavens and Earth and everthing inbetween them...
And yes, you are not repsnsible except for yourselves...
Do you bare witness that along with God are other gods! ???
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I see you clearly astray confused
Be aware of God! & elektro &
jedi
Do you not see that God (the trunk/ God / God source ) created you ( the branch/ the human/ the heavens and earth) and everything u create ( the leaves/ children/ plants and gardens, ect... ).
Are the human the more powerful creation, or the others ( universe ) that God created?
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I did not say there are other gods ?along? with god/source.
I said he created many, a heaven full of them, and I implied that we are juvenile 4th generation gods in the making that are allowed to ?practise? in a confined setting of our own making/illusion, with limited dna/brain activation. We did not do very well so far?Genesis we are made in the image of god
Jesus greater works will you do than I did.
1+1=2Do you not see that God (the trunk/ God / God source ) created you ( the branch/ the human/ the heavens and earth) and everything u create ( the leaves/ children/ plants and gardens, ect... ).
That's what i said. But the new twigs will become huge branches in their own right and..produce the next generation of creator/branches. The creation is holographic.Are the human the more powerful creation, or the others ( universe ) that God created?
Observe a tree.
Are the first branches more powerful than the latter twigs?
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salam. the question, where is allah, comes from a human being who lives in a universe created by allah. allah existed before this universe was created, separate from this universe.
the question of where is allah, is like asking where is an electron, the answer to this question is already known, when we try and say an electron is at a particular place, the electron is no longer there, it moves, and by the time the question is asked, it has moved again. if i say to you an electron is at xxx location, by the time you get the answer the electron is at yyy location. this is why asking questions couched in the language of the earth, are not valid in heaven.
let me give you another example, you have a left and a right, on your left may be a cup of coffee, on your right may be a lamp, however in heaven there is no left, there is only right. location specific answers are valid on earth, not in heaven.
be aware that the word heaven means sky as well as the heavenly home of allah, both defintions are valid at the same time, all the time. the english word heaven, is similar to the arabic word asmaa, the physical and spiritual defintions are conveyed at the time and together.
i hope i added to your confusion, this was my intention. only allah guides whom he will.
allah is light.
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salam. i saw posts discussing gender. posts discussing the possible gender of allah.
please study the quran on the issue of gender before making any claims as to allah's gender. those who guard against evil may be guided by allah, to find that allah condemned those people who called the angels females.
allah is the lord of the worlds.
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Allah's clear warning is that never indulge in arguments over things about which you have no knowledge at all. what happens here is we have taken the subject of Allah itself for debate. The subject is for pondering and reflecting perchance you may increase your faith upon the faith.
It is better to ponder as What is Allah? Than indulging in where is Allah? First let us know the definition of the name Allah.
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I believe the Gforce (not g-force/G-force) from the aether physics model may be able to discribe how the god could both be on a throne (of control), closer than your jugular vein, etc etc and yet still no "thing" like the god.
How would we describe a force, equal to 121 million billion billion billion billion newton, that drives each quanta of space-time and mediates each of the forces that holds the Universe together? The Gforce is omniscient in that it is enormously powerful and encompasses the entire physical Universe. The Gforce is non-material in nature, and yet gives rise to all physical existence. The Gforce produces the space-time (Aether) in which we live.
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peace all
so where is God?
since he sees and hears all, is he literally everywhere? at several places at the same time?
Know yourself then you will know Allah.
As a human being, you see through the window of your mind/consciouness - where is this mind in you and how can you see or even know the nature of mind?
A thing to you is anything perceptible by the mind - is the mind a thing or a function? Function of what and how?
What is space and where is space? Is the universe contained in a space or the space is within the universe?
In your dream while asleep, you give life, sight and hearing to the living contents of your dream yet they are not you but you are everywhere in them and see and hear them - how is this?
Allah created Thing and No-Thing. God is not a thing and He is not no-thing. As far as your mind is concerned, Allah is a concept/meaning.
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Know yourself then you will know Allah.
As a human being, you see through the window of your mind/consciouness - where is this mind in you and how can you see or even know the nature of mind?
A thing to you is anything perceptible by the mind - is the mind a thing or a function? Function of what and how?
What is space and where is space? Is the universe contained in a space or the space is within the universe?
In your dream while asleep, you give life, sight and hearing to the living contents of your dream yet they are not you but you are everywhere in them and see and hear them - how is this?
Allah created Thing and No-Thing. God is not a thing and He is not no-thing. As far as your mind is concerned, Allah is a concept/meaning.
No thing, is not something, but an absence of thing.
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No thing, is not something, but an absence of thing.
Assuming every physical thing known to the Mind is made from energy, No-Thing will mean no energy.
What is space? Is it something or no-thing? To the mind, it is no-thing.
N0-thing is a relative term used by the mind - it does not mean absolute absence of something.
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Assuming every physical thing known to the Mind is made from energy, No-Thing will mean no energy.
What is space? Is it something or no-thing? To the mind, it is no-thing.
N0-thing is a relative term used by the mind - it does not mean absolute absence of something.
No thing, is not the same as "no energy". No energy is the absense of energy. Energy is only one thing, as it's greek describes - energeia, "activity, operation", from - energos, "active, working".
No thing is an absolute.
If every physical thing is know, then there are only non-physical options left. And no, you do not know that space is nothing. Space is an absence of something, not everything. Refer to aether physics model. If it was nothing, then it would not physically be there, you would not be able to move through it.
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Peace FAR,
I believe the Gforce (not g-force/G-force) from the aether physics model may be able to discribe how the god could both be on a throne (of control), closer than your jugular vein, etc etc and yet still no "thing" like the god.
I guess this is one way of looking at it... Allah created time and space, and therefore, He is beyond time and space. He isn't encompassed in any form, and therefore, He is everywhere at all times. If He was limited by time or space, then He wouldn't be "GOD"...
Peace,
Ahmad
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you asked where is allah? nowhere. Where is God? everywhere. We are created in His image. God is Spirit and should be Worshiped in Sprit and in Truth. God has a form even Moses saw the back of God on Mount sini God said to Him "You can see the back of Me but you cannot see My face as no man can see My Face and live" God is sourouded in Brilliang Light as God is Light and In Him there is no darkness at all. God bless
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Peace,
you asked where is allah? nowhere. Where is God? everywhere.
This in itself is a ridiculous statement... In reality, based on the Hebrew Tanakh, the person "God" (or "Gaad" was a false god, mentioned in the book of Isaiah. Is this who your god is? Was your scripture written in English?! To claim that "Allah" is any different from the most high deity ("god" is a clear identifier that you don't have any knowledge of Arabic or of historical monotheism...
We are created in His image. God is Spirit and should be Worshiped in Sprit and in Truth. God has a form even Moses saw the back of God on Mount sini God said to Him "You can see the back of Me but you cannot see My face as no man can see My Face and live" God is sourouded in Brilliang Light as God is Light and In Him there is no darkness at all.
How were we created in G-d's image if G-d is a spirit? Are we also spirits?! Also, the Tanakh makes it clear that G-d is completely incomparable to any part of His creation. Therefore, if G-d is not human, then He also is not a spirit, since then He could be compared with other spirits. G-d is beyond both physical and spiritual forms, and He is all encompassing... The concepts of "dark" and "light" when it comes to the Creator are metaphorical, not literal.