salaat=programming/conditioning
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Peace be upon you,
Remember to take the knowledge you gain from reading and program it into your character! That is the real victory. Those who "sit at home" do not get it. You muat take these weapons to WAR and STRUGGLE to change your behavior! What beautiful similitudes!
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(17110) Say, "Call The God, or call The Merciful, whichever you call, so for Him (are) the most beautiful names, and do not publicize/declare/raise (voice) with your programming/conditioning, and do not silence/lower and hide with it, and desire between that a path."
if i may focus on this particular verse, i'd like to know more about this raising of the voice or lowering it... in what way is that meant?
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Peace be upon you,
Yes, "voice" is not in the verse, it is really about publicizing or hiding salaat. The balanced approach is most effective.
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Woe to those who program but are heedless of thier programming!
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hey hey hey, enuff with all the programming and all that stuff confused
what does God within mean? ;D
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Woe to those who program but are heedless of thier programming!
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Makes perfect sense. People getting scared by terrifying images on Faux News and then letting the government take away their freedom to keep them safe from the "terrorists." We get brainwashed and we don't even know it.
I guess the way to control it is to not get affected by things and get emotional. If we stay free from emotion and think clearly we will not get programmed by television or music or politicians or anything.
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Who are the ones heedless of their salat? Il tell you who they are. The ones who stop the charity. They salat, but they withold from far reaching deeds.
A charity is to be brought to the salat. The contribution to the community chest is a condition of the salat.
And those who do not encourage the feeding of the poor. And they mistreat the orphan.
1071 Have you seen him who is denying the system?
1072 It is the one who mistreats the orphan,
1073 And does not encourage the feeding of the poor.
1074 So woe to those who commune,
1075 But to their communion they are absent minded.
1076 They only want to be seen,
1077 And they withhold from far-reaching deeds.Those are the ones who are heedless of their salat. Those are the ones who are heedless of their salat.
jedi
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You shall connect to your Lord, and sacrafice.
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Peace be upon you,
Who are the ones heedless of their salat? Il tell you who they are. The ones who stop the charity. They salat, but they withold from far reaching deeds.
But that doesnt make sense because they are still aware of thier bowing down on the ground...they still take heed to get on the ground...so that does not fit. God says that true salaat PREVENTS YOU from evil deeds. Bowing on the ground is proven to not be the answer by itself. The missing component is the mental prostration. That change within the nafs(subconcious) that God talks about. Remember, God says that thier wil not be a change in the condition of a people UNTIL they change what is in thier nafs(subconcious).
God Within simply means that God is closer than the jugular vein....God is the one conciousness that fully expresses Itself through mankind.
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Peace Kyle,
Zakat is a result of salat. And of them both is what a righteous deed consists.
I read the Quran in Arabic and my latest understanding is based on that, and not on translations. In the Quran, the action of salat is almost always followed with the action of giving zakat, donation, etc. It looks like if a person cannot give zakat unless he/she is doing salat. The two are closely related. So salat has to be or involve doing a righteous deed, a deed that naturally results in a positive outcome that benefits the doer as well as the world around him. In the Quran, you would sometimes read that those who are promised the paradise are those who believe in Allah, the Hereafter and do righteous deeds. Yet sometime, the words ?doing righteous deed?, are replaced with doing salat and then followed by giving zakat. So I conclude that doing a salat doing a halal work, that enables one to help others zakat, is what the righteous deed is.Salat+Zakat= A righteous deed.
Btw, I am glad you are back to Free-minds.
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Peace,
To put it in few words
Salat= Service to mankind.Woe, salat = service to God alone. Be aware of your Lord.
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I have a strong tendency to agree with the viewpoint expressed in the OP. Cognitive behavioural therapy is based on this mindset and it works! Generally our lives are dominate to the hilt by our inner desires. We are slaves to food, drugs, repressed emotions, all sorts. The winners of life are those who recognize that they are susceptible to these things, grab them by the horns and bring them out into the open where they can be scrutinised with objectivity.
Personality disorders and defects arise when one programs themselves negatively. For example, an avoidant will repeatedly tell themselves that they are worthless and useless and it slowly sinks in, over the years. The end result is a shell of a human being, worthless and useless because of their own conditioning. All addictive behaviours have a root in bad conditioning as well. Suppressed emotions, shame, etc; there is a mountain of evidence to suggest that gambling, alcoholi, sex and even drug addictions arise from this behaviour. With this in mind, how amazing is it that LSD-25, an agent that throws one into a dark room of introspection, locks the door and throws away the key until sanity is restored, is a more powerful tool for treating such behaviours than the 12-step process? Either way the worst is the schizoid condition and let it be assured that none of you want to get into that mindset
How consistent is this viewpoint though? Without even including the Quran in the picture, this technique works in LIFE! I recommend interested peeps look up "NLP" and so on (IIRC most people on here know about this). It's very very easy to take control of your own psyche, the only thing that's needed is an inner desire to actively change yourself. I wish I knew these things in childhood but it's better late than never. Some people rot in old age, still unaware of such a simple yet beautiful concept.
For me to realise this it took a tremendous kick in the rear from something which most will look down on. Much kudos to whoever (re?)introduced this concept to all, you are clearly miles ahead of everyone else in your journey. One thing engrained into my heart is that objectivity is the key to everything. If you lie to yourself, you will eventually end up believing the lies. And so another easily remedied "personality disorder" develops...
Woe to those who program but are heedless of thier programming!
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Exactly so. I'm pleasantly surprised to find this thread because I've just come out of a hell of a rut, everything I learnt is perhaps summed up entirely in this thread. If this is "salat" then there is no way it can be summarised in a few words, the more the better. eat
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How consistent is this viewpoint though? Without even including the Quran in the picture, this technique works in LIFE! I recommend interested peeps look up "NLP" and so on (IIRC most people on here know about this). It's very very easy to take control of your own psyche, the only thing that's needed is an inner desire to actively change yourself. I wish I knew these things in childhood but it's better late than never. Some people rot in old age, still unaware of such a simple yet beautiful concept.
Salaam OPF
Good to see you back, sun its been sometime since we saw firecrackers here.
Take control of your psyche you mean "nafs" its not easy but certainly possible as long as first you are ready to look deep down into your nafs.
If you lie to yourself, you will eventually end up believing the lies. And so another easily remedied "personality disorder" develops...
Or if someone else lies repeatedly, you could end up believing that, for example; Coca Cola linked to happiness was the set off of such messages which are delivered to us in the form advertizments from all directions. AND since 9/11 no one has escaped words "Islamist/ Muslims terrorist" designed to make even a rational Muslim become insane, So refer to the Qur?an's teachings avoid contact with such a proponganda and as for subliminal messages detach yourself from corrupting influences seek help by reciting surah Fathia consciously in every salah, and programing the nafs is nicely summedup by God Within in the first post .
I seek God's refuge from the evils of sneaky whisperers (surah 114, a reminder that we are all prone to it).
peace
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Peace be upon you OPF,
Havent been on here for a while, good to come back and see others verifying this through thier own experiences. PLease continue to add anything you can to this most important aspect of the righteous way of life.
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dear brother God within , i am new to this forum, and i had a lot of questions which you answered. But one thing i dont understand is it wrong to call God "Allah". It just makes me feel nearer to Him. anyway as i said you have answered a lot of questions for me May Allah swt give you paradise in this world and the next. Ameen
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Peace be upon you Mini,
Thanks for the kind words Glad you could accept the position I am presenting. Please feel free to continue the dialogue if there are any questions.
Regarding "God" and "Allah"..I use MANY terms to represent THAT which is above all names. In this reading(quran) it says that no matter what "name" you use, To God belongs the best names. Basically, I use God most because I am an english speaker and this is the universally accepted "name" in english. If I am speaking to a "sunni" or Shiite" I will use "Allah" so that I do not loose them in the dialogue. When I am with my friends who study Egyptain philosophy, I use "Neter"....etc etc. If Allah helps you to get closer, then by all means use that, but dont get caught up in right and wrong names, it is a waste of your precious time on earth.
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I've always though that to improve moral is really important and at times i tried to link it to salat and zakat. About 2 weeks now i've focused my salat on a list of moral things which i lack and bad morals which i'm trying to get rid of and it is so obvious that things are better. My remembrance of God has also bettered and improved.Previously i thought that salat was just the remembrance of God. But now i focus on moral but at the same time try to reflect on God as to decide on what i have done wrong and what good attributes i lack which could assist me in adding to the good deeds i try to accomplish in my lifetime given. You could say it's my attempt to magnify God during the salat as this helps to seek out good moral attributes as well as spot bad attributes i have.