Issa, Muhammad and the Kananeans
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Salam
Let?s continue with amazing theories.
Brother Pazuzu already mentioned in his posts that the true cananeans of the bible (fought by Yeshua to conquer the promised land after the exodus of Moses ) where in fact the banu Kinanah (people living in Arabia).
See http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603245.15Let?s explore more this hypothesis.
First we have to go to Baal divinity.Baal was worshipped by jews according to bible. In Arabic Baal means Husband
37125 Would you call on BAAL and forsake the best Creator??
4128 And if a woman fears from her husband (BAAL) desertion or disregard, ?.
1172 She said "O my! Shall I give birth when I am an old woman, and here is my husband (BAAL) an old man? This is indeed a strange thing!"Houbel is a quraich divinity. Houbel can be a contraction of Houwa BAAL (He is BAAL, He is the Husband).
Please see this Arabic text http//books.google.ae/books?id=-OKtkvCf4TYC&pg=PT137Now lets read this
6100 And they set up partners with God from among the Jinn, while He had created them. And they invented for Him sons and daughters without them having any knowledge! Be He glorified and exalted above what they describe.
5319 Have you considered Allaat and Al-`Uzzah?
5320 And Manaat, the third one?
5321 Do you have the males, while He has the females?This clear testimony of God seems to indicate to us that he was the famous Baal (Husband) to whom was falsely attributed a family. The statue of Houbel was only a representation and quraish were not pagans but idolaters. Mushrikouns are mentioned in Quran as real enemies of Islam.. Baal was frequently assimilated to sun while his alleged wife (ALLAT) was assimilated to Moon and Fertility deity. The black dress (like niqab) or black color attributed to Black virgin Madonna would symbolise the burn by the powerful light of the ?Husband?.
See http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asherah where we can found also mention of Elat, the Hebrew ALLAT.Notice that Jesus is frequently represented with a sun behind him.
Notice also Mary was frequently represented as black virgin with a child. Same for Isis.
Kaaba is now having the cubic shape (characteristic of fertility deity), is wearing a black dress, and is exposing a black stone with a form a child?s head in a kind of feminine vulvae.
Kaaba is still then a representation of ?wife of GOD? whose son is kissed by idolaters pilgrims.
See photos here for cube symbolism http//www.nouvelordremondial.cc/2009/07/03/symboles-occultes-dans-les-logos-dentreprises-pt2-saturne/For French readers, I recommend this http//matricien.org/matriarcat-religion/paganisme/allat/
2143 ?.. And We did not make the focal point that you became on except to distinguish who follows the messenger from those who will turn on their heels. ?.
Note the ?who will turn on their heels?. Very funny, No ?
See also this photo of hand of ALLAT http//www.northernway.org/presentations/godwife/12.html
And remark the symbol of crescent and star found nowadays on many Muslims country flags.According to http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Kinanah, Qurarish was a branch of banu Kinanah who was ?a jewish tribe?.
I will not return on the fact that bani Israel were in arabia during the life of prophet. Many verses speaks about bani Israel and jewish and their relation with the prophet.4357 And when the son of Mary was put forth as an example, your people turned away from it.
4358 And they said ?Our gods are better or is he?? They only put this forth to argue with you. Indeed, they are a quarrelsome people.
4359 He was no more than a servant whom We blessed, and We made him an example for the Children of Israel.So the question is why people of Muhammad don?t like specially Issa ?
My response is easy, because they were the kananeans defeated by the true Messiah who installed Bani Israel in the promise land, the one where there was a certain Firaoun.Animosity between banu kinanah and Bani Israel seems to be still vivacious during prophet period
Let see how God speaks to people of Muhammad who were jealous for not to receive a book
6155 And this is a Book that We have sent down which is blessed, so follow it and be aware, that you may receive mercy.
6156 Lest you say "The Book was only sent down to two groups before us, and we were unaware of their study!"
6157 Or you say "If the Book was sent to us we would have been more guided than they!" Clarity has come to you from your Lord, and a guidance and a mercy. Who is more wicked than he who denies the revelations of God and turns away from them? We will punish those who turn away from Our revelations with the pain of retribution for what they turned away.I will let the reader summarize by himself.
6-157 is the best summary for me.Peace
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salam
i ask readers to read my post about Gog and Magogs here
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604222.0GOD is now mixing beliefs of GOG and MAGOGS in a big festival of disbeliefs and lies about GOD.
Bigs waves between pagan religion, christiannty, judaisim, zoroastrianism, bouddism, hindouism, atheism, islam are occuring since many centuries22 This is the Book in which there is no doubt, a guidance for the righteous.
peace
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Excellent., amazing and interesting post!
Thank you!
sun
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Peace be with you guys as well,
from linguistics, i have noted that BAAL means "lord/head figure".
In the Torah, Quran, and the NT, all mention of how the Wife of Abraham, called him lord, or Ba'al.
There was an idol that was worshiped named ba'al. Moreover, there are also conjoined words, like bal-zebub (Lord of the flies.) -
Salaam All
I am no more agree with myself about what i wrote about the banu kinanah (kinana is not a quranic word).
Brother Pazuzu analysis, in his second E book, seems better.
Kinanah would mean a sedentary people. (kanna)That meaning is quite same as qarra (from which is extracted qura=village and ommou el qura=mother of villages).
Now that i think that Nassara are persians, i think that "people of muhammad" don't like Issa simply because he is the nabi/messengers followed by Persian invader (43-57 to 43-49).
Verses 6155 to 6157 have now another interpretation
people to who they are adressed are neither yemenites (jews) nor persians (nassara) but omani and old bahreinis (http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604929.0).
Quran was revaled one shot after Hijra (so after leaving Yemen)that is now my actual understanding.
Peace
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salaam
thank you AK85
I have to add an interesting stuff to this thread.
This finding is due to brother pazuzu (in his E-books)Kanaaneans could come come from root kanna wich means resident
Kanaaneans can be oposed to Hebrew who can come from root abara /pass. So Hebrew can mean non resident/immigrant/passing people.This understanding can place kanaaneans and hebrew everywhere if it doesnt' point to a kind of ethnicity.
another very interesting stuff is due to brother ayman in his now famous facebook page (www.facebook.com/quran4peace).
from 6-83 to 6-86 and some other verses , he deduced that Lot can be the son of Abraham when Abraham was young.
if we take that verses as list of prophets who descent from Abraham, we can remark that Muhammad is not there.Coming back to this thread, it is possible then that Muhammad was from then "resident people" and not from descent of abraham
finally , in this thread http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604929.40
opposition is made between the two "important" quranic cities Medina and Median.Peace