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Sunnis and Shiahs???Is the war only political basis?

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    Hope
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    salam Soraya

    319 "The system with God is submission, and those who received the Scripture did not dispute except after the knowledge came to them out of jealousy between them. And whoever rejects God?s signs, then God is swift in judgment."
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    4214 "And they only divided after the knowledge had come to them, due to resentment among themselves"

    I dont think that peace between sunni and shiah can ever happen.

    Peace between isreal and palestine? ??? who knows??

    The only solution be by obying god alone sun

    Peace

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      Soraya
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      We all are aware that its haraam to be divided into sects
      But in a way..its the authorities that are to be blamed..Infact they are using the British tactic
      Divide and Rule..
      I think we cant blame the masses of people..despite knowing that they have brains to choose what to listen to and what not..
      We have only 1 solution Pray Allah for them and that their hatred end..Inshah Allah

      Its Allah who judges who is a Muslim and who is not..And A Muslim is someone who submits to Allah..
      so I wish to say that either Shiah or Sunni,they all are muslims..Alhamdulilah

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        SwedenMajidah
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        We all are aware that its haraam to be divided into sects
        But in a way..its the authorities that are to be blamed..Infact they are using the British tactic
        Divide and Rule..
        I think we cant blame the masses of people..despite knowing that they have brains to choose what to listen to and what not..
        We have only 1 solution Pray Allah for them and that their hatred end..Inshah Allah

        Its Allah who judges who is a Muslim and who is not..And A Muslim is someone who submits to Allah..
        so I wish to say that either Shiah or Sunni,they all are muslims..Alhamdulilah

        Salam,

        You are right that it is God who judge who is a muslim/mumin but we can get a hint when we read Al-Quran of what is the attribute of a muslim and mumin.

        It's wrong to divide into sects, so the shia and sunni has very early took this stand of separations and that makes them as dividers from the deen of God.

        Of course we cannot blame all single persons born into sunnism and shiism and maybe not adhere to those sects.

        I wish all would walk on the right path, fisahbillah.

        Maria

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          Bahman
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          I am not of same opinion... One is follower of Muhammad and the other is follower of Ali ... The only common ground both of them are Al-Quran.... However, the shia have 2 more surahs in their Quran... This is what I learn when I was studying 'Islamic Studies' at college.... I need someone to confirm that... So are they prepared to come back to Al-Quran and make new ties.... I think it is not very probable, considering how arrogant both are through their clerics and imams... But whatever can happen by the Will of God.. SO the best thing to do is to pray and ask for the best out of these circumstances...

          Peace

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            Bahman
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            I wish to say that either Shiah or Sunni,they all are muslims..Alhamdulilah

            Peace and welcome sister )
            They are not Muslim 319 . Islam is submissionto God Alone ,Quran Alone. They prefer their imamas and shaikhs fetwas based on Mohmammed life style in fair taile soties in Hadith.
            Please read this article by Dr.Rashad Khalifah
            Peace

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              Bahman
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              SO the best thing to do is to pray and ask for the best out of these circumstances...

              Peace
              Even at this era having all these media tools aware of anything happens around world in seconds they lie to puic and decorate the way they like it . We find after years (25) what was the relities if they are telling us truth and not another lie.
              1400 years ago time superpower had such power to genocide whole family of Ali which the feud was over 2 verses added to end of 128-129 and Ali did not agree and fabricate false history. They changed the history and coverit up with politics that such divison was over leadership of Muslims after Mohammed "Khilafat".
              Now scripture by help of computer is purifying itself and dispays in hundered cases that those 2 verses was fabrication to bring human at level of God "Most Merciful" and rejecting those solidly.

              Here are list for those that have no prejeduices in heart toward any other human, their word in their mouth matches with their innermost thought, they have cut totally from their parent belief, they are searching for truth and fact without any media man.
              These are not teaching. These are informations and is up to truth seekers to examine it
              http//www.submission.org/tampering.html
              http//ca.youtube.com/watch?v=6ace4i1osfU
              http//ca.youtube.com/watch?v=YZKQveJvMaU
              http//creatorsignature.com/ladertoheaven.htm
              And here Quran without 2 verses one of the best translation.
              http//submission.org/quran/

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                Bahman
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                But CAN A SOLUTION BE FOUND??/

                Peace
                God Alone , Quran Alone.
                Peace.

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                  SwedenMajidah
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                  Peace and welcome sister )
                  They are not Muslim 319 . Islam is submissionto God Alone ,Quran Alone. They prefer their imamas and shaikhs fetwas based on Mohmammed life style in fair taile soties in Hadith.
                  Please read this article by Dr.Rashad Khalifah
                  Peace

                  Peace,

                  "And the messenger will say, 'My Lord, my people have deserted THIS QURAN.' We thus set up against every prophet enemies who are wicked. YOUR LORD SUFFICES AS A GUIDE AND SUPPORTER (i.e., Quran is enough)." (2530-31)

                  When God says that Muhammads people have deserted This Quran, does that means that they not adhere to just God alone and Quran alone?
                  Or could it also means many other reasons like that they put 2 extra verses in the end of surah 9 ?

                  Maria

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                    Peace,

                    "When God says that Muhammads people have deserted This Quran, does that means that they not adhere to just God alone and Quran alone?
                    Or could it also means many other reasons like that they put 2 extra verses in the end of surah 9 ?

                    Maria

                    I think desert mean, they stay far from quraan , meaning they didnt study nor follow it, on the otherside they follow man made books, written by their imams and shiekhs. And this is excately what is going on and what we do see.

                    Peace

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                      Can a solution be found between Israel and Palestine?

                      Peace between isreal and palestine? ??? who knows??

                      The only solution be by obying god alone sun

                      Peace all
                      Yes God has a solution but they do not want it; Please read and let me know your opinion
                      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16684.15

                      sun

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