If for the Men there will be hooris,what will there be for women in Paradise?
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Assalaam Alaikum
Before this individual 'floods' the thread in an attempt to bury the truth, lets make some clear logical points here
- 'Adam' is NOT a 'Man', its a model of creation, human creation.
- Allah does NOT mention 'Adam' as a Prophet or Messenger.
- There no historical evidence as to the existence of this 'original' 'man named 'Adam' at anytime, anywhere in human history
We said. "O Adam! dwell you and your spouse / ya adamu oskun anta wa zawjuka in the Garden; and eat of the bountiful things therein as (where and when) you will; but approach not this tree, or you run into harm and transgression."
Adamu (Raf Case) refers to both males and female human beings.
Zawj is plural, Noun ZawjuKA is Irregular Plural, Noun, Masculine meaning pairs, form pairs, double
And Allah did create you from dust; then from a sperm-drop; then He made you either male or female / azwajan / . And no female conceives, or lays down (her load), but with His knowledge. Nor is a man long-lived granted length of days, nor is a part cut off from his life, but is in a Decree (ordained). All this is easy to Allah.
Glory to Allah, Who created in pairs all things / khalaqaal-azwaja / that the earth produces, as well as their own (human) kind and (other) things of which they have no knowledge.
And it is He who spread out the earth, and set thereon mountains standing firm and (flowing) rivers. and fruit of every kind He made in pairs / zawjayni / , two and two. He draweth the night as a veil o'er the Day. Behold, verily in these things there are signs for those who consider!
What Allah is consistently trying to tell you is that when 'I create, I create EVERYTHING in pairs..the foundation of the essence is feminine, Adam is the model by which I shape and fashion human physical development'
Peace MTR,
I also mentioned in another thread that the first humans Adam and his mate mentions nearly always together. because as you says God created everything in pairs. And by pairs, then both of them are neccessary.
Maria
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belalhammad
Now belalhammad, lets see who is on guidance.
The truth (is) from ALLAH alone; so be not of those who doubt.
If any one disputes in this matter with you, after knowledge had s come to you, say. ? come! Let us gather together,-- our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves. then let us earnestly pray, and CALL THE CURSE OF ALLAH ON THOSE WHO LIE!?
Why did they not bring four witnesses to prove it? When they have NOT brought the witnesses, such men, in the sight of Allah, (stand forth) themselves as LIARS!
@belalhammad, Now I will pray that Allah,swt will curse those who lie, and you do the same.
Now bring your proof and witnesses to claim and testify I am lying. If you dont, then you are recognized as a liar in Allah's judgement.
Those who brought forward the lie are a body among yourselves. think it not to be an evil to you; On the contrary it is good for you. to every man among them (will come the punishment) of the sin that he earned, and to him who took on himself the lead among them, will be a penalty grievous.
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Now bring your proof and witnesses to claim and testify I am lying. If you dont, then you are recognized as a liar in Allah's judgement.
You said
- There no historical evidence as to the existence of this 'original' 'man named 'Adam' at anytime, anywhere in human history
which is a lie; and I proved your lie by
That is a lie from some one who either lacks intelligent or trying to misguide people
Here is the Truth from your Lord
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Behold, thy Lord said to the angels "I am about to create a human beig from clay (71) "When I have fashioned him and breathed into him of My spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him." (72) So the angels prostrated themselves, all of them together; (73) Not so Iblis he was haughty, and became one of those who reject Faith. (74) (Allah) said "O Iblis! what prevents thee from prostrating thyself to one whom I have created with My hands? Art thou haughty? Or art thou one of the high ones?" (75) (Iblis) said "I am better than he Thou createdst me from fire, and him Thou createdst from clay." (38-76)
And the soul from God Breathing into the Clay, using his spirit.
"When I have fashioned him and breathed into him of My spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him." (72)
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@belalhammad
There's obviously a disconnect here. The ayah you referenced has no relevance to the request. Nor does it suggest I am lying about something.
In the Quran Allah mentions every Prophet and Messenger as sent to a given people in human history.
Where is the ayah that Allah states 'I sent Adam to......'?
If you cant do that....then produce the archeological or historical evidence of the existence of the 'Original' 'Adam' , as you claim was a Man, who actually lived.
Produce this evidence please
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Another Lie from MTR
He or she said
Paradise is in this world.....
And then said; in the SAME DAY, that there is a Yum elquama
Assalaam Alaikum
The governance of the soul on the Day of Qiyamah is feminine!
Now; that shows either some one lacks intilegent or someoe is tryig to misguide us.
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@belalhammad
Denial is NOT evidence. We are still waiting for the proof.
Strike 2.......
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Where is the ayah that Allah states 'I sent Adam to......'?
If you cant do that....then produce the archeological or historical evidence of the existence of the 'Original' 'Adam' , as you claim was a Man, who actually lived.
Produce this evidence please
Stop changing your statemet; You said
Assalaam Alaikum
- There no historical evidence as to the existence of this 'original' 'man named 'Adam' at anytime, anywhere in human history
And here is another evidence
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Allah did choose Adam and Noah the family of Abraham, and the family of Imran above all people. (33) Offspring, one of the other; and Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (3-34) -
belalhammad
uuh belalhammad, we know Adam is a model for humanity we got that. Now what people was Adam sent to?
Evidence please
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Did Adam exist before in history or not?
Peace,
What kind of question is that?
seems as he was an alien or something.
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Peace,
1958 Those are the ones whom God has blessed from amongst the prophets from the progeny of Adam, and those We carried with Noah, and from the progeny of Abraham and Israel, and from whom We have guided and chosen. When the revelations of the Almighty are recited to them, they fall down prostrating, and in tears.
237 Adam then received words from His Lord, so He forgave him; He is the Forgiver, the Merciful.
20121 So they both ate from it, and their bodies became apparent to them, and they began to place leaves on themselves from the paradise. Adam had disobeyed his Lord, and had gone astray.
20122 Then his Lord recalled him, and He forgave him, and gave guidance to him.Adam is a person, he had offspring, he heard the revelations of God and fell down prostrating and in tears.
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Peace,
What kind of question is that?
seems as he was an alien or something.
This is in referance to MTR comment
- There no historical evidence as to the existence of this 'original' 'man named 'Adam' at anytime, anywhere in human history
Peace,
1958 Those are the ones whom God has blessed from amongst the prophets from the progeny of Adam, and those We carried with Noah, and from the progeny of Abraham and Israel, and from whom We have guided and chosen. When the revelations of the Almighty are recited to them, they fall down prostrating, and in tears.
237 Adam then received words from His Lord, so He forgave him; He is the Forgiver, the Merciful.
20121 So they both ate from it, and their bodies became apparent to them, and they began to place leaves on themselves from the paradise. Adam had disobeyed his Lord, and had gone astray.
20122 Then his Lord recalled him, and He forgave him, and gave guidance to him.Adam is a person, he had offspring, he heard the revelations of God and fell down prostrating and in tears.
Thank you for helping
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Peace,
1958 Those are the ones whom God has blessed from amongst the prophets from the progeny of Adam, and those We carried with Noah, and from the progeny of Abraham and Israel, and from whom We have guided and chosen. When the revelations of the Almighty are recited to them, they fall down prostrating, and in tears.
237 Adam then received words from His Lord, so He forgave him; He is the Forgiver, the Merciful.
20121 So they both ate from it, and their bodies became apparent to them, and they began to place leaves on themselves from the paradise. Adam had disobeyed his Lord, and had gone astray.
20122 Then his Lord recalled him, and He forgave him, and gave guidance to him.Adam is a person, he had offspring, he heard the revelations of God and fell down prostrating and in tears.
Peace,
bravo for bring forth these verses.
He got guidence but not a Scripture because this first generation was very simple.Maria
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Peace all,
What I still have in my mind though is the theory that Adam was not just one but many how else could the mankind grow and spread around the world and different races ( skincolor, haircolor etc) ?
Maria
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Peace all,
What I still have in my mind though is the theory that Adam was not just one but many how else could the mankind grow and spread around the world and different races ( skincolor, haircolor etc) ?
Maria
Peace all
No one can till us the Truth about the Unseen, eccept Him, Allah.
God told us that Adam and his wife were the first to live on earth; moreover, he told us that all humans were created from Adam and his Wife (2-36). Thus, the answer to your questions is answered by the Knowledgable of the Unseen.
Now, you will find many people in Free-Minde will give other different answers.
And it will be the test for you choose between God's answer or Others beside him.
Peace -
He did'nt save you belalhammad, It seems you did NOT prove anything. Be careful who you call liars and accuse of misleading
Sura 2.36 does NOT say anything about Adam's wife! or that humans came from Adam and Eve's conception, thats Bible!
Then did Satan make them slip from the (garden), and get them out of the state (of felicity) in which they had been. We said. "Get you down, all (you people), with enmity between yourselves. On earth will be your dwelling-place and your means of livelihood - for a time."
Faazallahuma alshshaytanu AAanha faakhrajahuma mimma kana feehi waqulna ihbitoo baAAdukum libaAAdin AAaduwwun walakum fee alardi mustaqarrun wamataAAun ila heenin
Then learnt Adam / adamu from his Lord words of inspiration, and his Lord Turned towards him; for He is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.
Adamu (Raf Case) refers to both males and female human beings.
Allah did choose Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of 'Imran above all people,-
Inna Allaha istafa adama wanoohan wa ala ibraheema wa ala AAimrana AAala al-AAalameena
Istafa (Perfect, SingularVerb Form VIII = Reflexive) Chosen from the best, preferred, chosen in preference over another (Iblis)
Verb Form VIII = Reflexive The object (Adam) and subject (Noah, Ibraaheem & Family of Imran) of a reflexive verb refer to the same person / individuals
Ala denotes an end?.lineage
Those were among the prophets or whom Allah has blessed from the offspring of Adam / thurriyyati adama and from those whom We carried with Nooh and from the offspring of Ibraheem and Israel and from those whom We guided and We chose, when the ayats/signs of Ar-Rahman were recited on them they fall down prostrating, weeping.
'thurriyyati adama' is in the genitive(?), thus Adam is the model, foundation of the lineage
? So, Shaitan/Satan whispered to him saying, "O Adam / AdamU / ! Do you have evidence over the Tree of Eternity and the kingdom that does not decay".
Adamu (Raf Case) refers to both males and female human beings.
Thus in..
But his Lord chose him (for His Grace). He turned to THEM (not him) / fataba AAalayhi / , and gave THEM (not him) Guidance.
Masculine Verbs and Pronouns refer to Males and Females, unless otherwise governed by a preposition
'Adam' is the model and beginning of the lineage!
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MTR
Do you believe in Saten Story (2-34)?I believe in the Quran. Can we continue with the thread please?
Again, dont be so quick to call others liars and suggest they are misleading people, Allah may expose you as the liar and the one misleading people.