Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Users
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Free Minds Forum Icon
  1. Home
  2. General Issues / Questions
  3. Questions/Comments on the Quran
  4. Wudu?

Wudu?

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Questions/Comments on the Quran
5 Posts 3 Posters 21 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • U Offline
    U Offline
    unknownuser
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    Salaams,

    hmm

    Using lanes Dictionary and my own understandings of the quran.

    56
    O you who believe when you stand for a petition/ supplication then cleanse yourselves and your power/abilities/might to gain benefit, and remove sin from your leaders and your men for the condition and if you are impure purify and if you are full of vice and undertaking such a course or have come from vying with one another or from contact with women did not find essence then look for an ascent/a way, clean, and cleanse yourselves and your powers/abilities/might from it- does not want Allah to lay upon you any hardship but He wants to purify you and to complete His favor upon you so that you may give thanks.

    This is without the Grammer that changes Men into monkies or pigs- as the normal translations......or sticks into snakes.........

    No offence meant.

    OF COURSE THERE CAN BE DIFFERENT FORMS OF PETITION.

    So what people changed the world by such a method- Abraham, Moses, Ghandi, Nelson Mondella.....e.t.c

    But of course this will bring good results even in families when wrong is done.

    God Bless All.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • A Offline
      A Offline
      AlFajr
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Peace
      What do you mean without Grammer?

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • WakasW Online
        WakasW Online
        Wakas
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        This is without the Grammer

        peace al,

        He means he pays no attention to grammar when "translating". He also forgot to mention he pays no attention to cross referencing of word usage.

        Simple, is well known for keeping it simple.

        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • U Offline
          U Offline
          unknownuser
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          Peace
          What do you mean without Grammer?

          Salaams Br,

          i meant, i don't believe the Quran is based on the currant Arabic grammar but was written down when in fact the language was just emerging so doesn't need complicated Arabic grammar rules for its analysis.

          Thanks.

          But what is grammar?

          Grammar is the system of a language. People sometimes describe grammar as the "rules" of a language; but in fact no language has rules. If we use the word "rules", we suggest that somebody created the rules first and then spoke the language, like a new game. But languages did not start like that. Languages started by people making sounds which evolved into words, phrases and sentences. No commonly-spoken language is fixed. All languages change over time. What we call "grammar" is simply a reflection of a language at a particular time.
          Do we need to study grammar to learn a language? The short answer is "no". Very many people in the world speak their own, native language without having studied its grammar. Children start to speak before they even know the word "grammar".

          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16400.msg163340#msg163340

          God Bless.

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • U Offline
            U Offline
            unknownuser
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            peace al,

            He means he pays no attention to grammar when "translating". He also forgot to mention he pays no attention to cross referencing of word usage.

            Simple, is well known for keeping it simple.

            Realy- i think i do as much as i know Br, even that may not be much. But i don't take it as my God- like some.

            Thanks.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            Reply
            • Reply as topic
            Log in to reply
            • Oldest to Newest
            • Newest to Oldest
            • Most Votes


            • Login

            • Don't have an account? Register

            • Login or register to search.
            • First post
              Last post
            0
            • Categories
            • Recent
            • Users