Good news for all messengers.:)
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Salaam,
I don't think every messenger came with clear proofs. I have read the Quran many times and some of the messengers seem to arrive with nothing but guidance/clarity.12109 And We have not sent before you except men, to whom We gave inspiration, from the people of the towns. Would they not roam the Earth and see how was the punishment of those before them? And the abode of the Hereafter is far better for those who are aware. Do you not comprehend?
Of course God would send an angel.
162 He sends down the angels with the Spirit by His command upon whom He wishes of His servants ?That you shall warn that there is no god but I, so be aware of Me.?
I agree with Maria on this, we have to see how guided these so called "messengers" are before judging them.
Shalom , Peace , Asalaam Alaikoum Brother
the God's messengers who will come with proofs it's only for to show all the world that scripture is from God , yes there're a lot of messenger will come but for example they're not mentioned in the Quran ( their names) every believer share the God's message with the world i consider him as a messenger , only because he play the same messengers role , for God there is not difference between believers ,because if you read this verse and if you count its letters you'll understand why there is not difference between believers, We have bestowed upon you (O Messenger) a great victory.
*481 This profound statement consists of 19 letters, indicating that our generation is the generation of victory for God's purified, unified, and consolidated religion-Submission (319, 85). It is our generation that witnessed the revelations of God's great miracle in the Quran (Appendix 1).
i've understood from this verse that every one believe by the proof 19 he'll be like the messengers becauseWe have bestowed upon you (O Messenger) a great victory.
*481 This profound statement consists of 19 letters, indicating that our generation is the generation of victory for God's purified, unified, and consolidated religion-Submission (319, 85). It is our generation that witnessed the revelations of God's great miracle in the Quran (Appendix 1).
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Whereby GOD forgives your past sins, as well as future sins, and perfects His blessings upon you, and guides you in a straight path.Additionally, GOD will support you with an unwavering support. ( there are 19 letters on this verse too )
God will forgive the past sins as well as future sins to every one follow and believe by the miracle 19 , not only messengers .
God bless you
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i did not translate that scripture to say "O Female Messenger"...i put that in brackets for explanation, which i clearly explained before i did it.
As I wrote I am not rejecting any messenger female or male with CLEAR PROOF.
i have presented clear proof Bahman. God's Messenger is suppose to be able to recite and explain God's Revelations, plural.
would you guide me a verse stating what you claim?
anyone can come to their own conclusion as to whether i am doing that or not by considering the videos.
Those are well prepared in colors music well art done but clips content is wrong when you mix manipulated scripture with Quran ?
there a numerous Scriptures in the Quran that show you are to believe in the Torah, Gospel, and the Quran. many are presented in Part 46 of my videos.
The we do not need any other book, hadith or any older scripture to support Quran.
The reason stories and verse are repeated in Quran are proof for Quran that Mohammed never read those scripture as is authored in Quran .This way God is showing proof for Mohammed as person inspired to tell stories and messages which he never read not for your claim.
And that kind of proof was for the time when we did not have access to this screen, Now Messenger of Covenant Dr.Rashad Khalifah has revealed the secret of 14 initials in 29 chapters which is proof for existence of God and His messages in Quranthe invalid excuse that those in any sect of Islam use to reject the Bible is discussed in Part 74.
You mean chapter 74?
Which verses pleasebasically, the Bible was ALREADY altered BEFORE we were given the Quran...God says so in the Quran...
Right
so the fact that they have been altered is an invalid excuse to completely reject the Bible. besides,
When God says is altered and Quran is detailed and complete which mean close those books and park it in your shelve .now you have COMPLETE and DETAILED one.
God is Omniscient. He would have never said so clearly and so often instructed us to believe in the Previous Scriptures, and what was given to All the Prophets,
Show us the messages in GR for your claim.
if at anytime those Words would be too altered to do so. with the Quran we know what was altered.
Where you got such idea.?
GR is Completed and Detailed and Confirms all pervious scriptures Confirm previous messages that you find in Quran not those you like to use it for our claim.the Truth is most of the Bible is True and Important.
We have now a proofed scripture Quran complete and detailed replacing all scripture important or not that is God say clearly in Quran QURAN ALONE
Please read this topic and find it out God Alone Quran Alone.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9597365.msg183357#msg183357the reason your Imams have conditioned you to reject the Bible,
first you misinformed by such judging about me when you do not know where I come from . I have been atheist and the agnostic and never have believed in any Imam or any scripture. God is only teacher of His messages and no prophet or messenger is allowed to explain it for people.
It seems sister you are not studying Quran well and using search engines to find the verses matches your claim in your clips.is because the Bible exposes that the things done in ALL Sects of Islam...the repetitious prayers...the idolatrous unQuranic circling a kissing of a black cube, and other things...are wrong.
Great you are right and that is reason we should consider Bible another hadith like thos fabricated one.
So here is another reason we should put away moldy bread and eat fresh one only .even to the Submitter i will ask...where does the Quran tell you to circle a black cube seven times??? if you truly follow the Quran only...where are you getting that from?
They are very navies like those believe in your messenger ship without any Clear Proof and they are in majority too. That is reason here we discuss and we promot God Alone Quran Alone. to inform misinformed ones they follow what their parents and teachers (Imams )
Using Muslim for them in your clip too is not right . They are not .They are Mohammedans and are proud to be called Mohammedans Islam.
In the mean time take your time this forum and its site and other forum and its site 19.org are places for educating and read voluble searches and study taking days and months .. Those are not you tube clips that any primary school student using movie maker program can produce better one than mine by borrowing pics and sounds and copying from different sources using search engine.please understand, i have already explained this over and over. My only duty is to deliver the Message. it is God who guides whomever HE pleases.
The message is there and has been for 1400 years and now we have CLEAR PROOF,
There is no room for delivering any other message when God says Detailed and Complete. You are not delivering any new message you are repeating it bu y your own style like those chanting it and write in Arabic on Youtube.
God sends messenger with Clear Proof and specific task and duty .
First show us CLEAR PROOF and then tell us your SPECIFIC TASK AND DUTY?i do not need anyone's recognition. God knows who His Messengers are.
So what are doing on this screen ?
Are you promoting mixture of all messages and confusing new truth seekers? .
As God authored there messengers we know and messengers we do not know.
Messengers we know have had CLEAR PROOF but messenger we do not know do not need any proof.
so those we do not know they did not or do not claim but when you claim then CLEAR PROOF.
You are advertising your claim and even claim that is your occupation. . Then
Where is the Proof?believe as you do, and so i will i, and so will everyone else.
in the end, God will tell us the Truth of all that we did.I am doing it and such confidence that stnading front of you and all others and tell you show us CLEAR PROOF for your claim.
people. But if you abuse the scripture I believe then is my duty to expose the truth .i invite all of you to the Message, you can accept or decline
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What messages? Quran?
Then show us CLEAR PROOF.
I have done it for 10 years and will do to end of my life and just clai as simple believer like others not asking for any extra credit.i do not have time for debate here. my hands are very full. the work needs to be kept in one area.
Producing clips , going around and advertise and bring more clickers to increase numbers of with no comment has no value as much as you stay here and find answer to your questions
Look sister just type ?talking cat ? on youtube and it has 13 million viewers . I am not sure how many is your maximum. But I am in same situation and know those clicks an viewers are not voluble and is just people passing you shop and look into your display no shopping unless they comment.
All I say your participating over these sites and forum and discus with serious people that know the books is more voluble to have another thousand click. You learn things which you never knew like I have learnt during 10 years.i have been invited to many sites and chat rooms, but i have to turn it down because i certainly cannot keep explaining the same things over and over.
Great soon you may be such famous be invited by POPE and supporting his book by Quran as you do not Quran is very important for them and may get more charities to spend on gold and guards.
He does not like Quran Alone like you as he has to wrap up his kingdom.the videos and comments on youtube are heavy backed by Scripture.
This conflict with your statement when
As you said plurals ScriptureS.
Which Scripture you mean?in fact, many of the videos are virtually nothing but Scripture.
You are avoiding name of this Scripture without S . Which One ?
perhaps many of you will consider them, God willing.
That is we are doing here without censorship ( Hmmm)
Now is 10 years I am considering it like many other considering for understating and follow straight path.
You may do not like my response.
You may do not response to me.
You may leave this forum and work on more clips.
But my question will not be erased no matter where you are but remember this date
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Where is the Truth?
Where is the Clear proof?
May God Bless you.
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God shows that the Bible was already altered when the Quran came out. after all, He mentions how Jesus wasn't His son, which means they already altered the Scriptures to say this.
Peace all
Sister Becca, when you have time, please read through the following thread in order to know my and many of us view about The Altering of he Bible and Torah notion.http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596838.300
Moreover, please note that This Forum contains many Sects who are in disagreement with each others in regard of understanding the Quran (Humans...We love to disagree)
May God Bless and Guide those who are truly seeking His Words.
Peace
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By our command / Amran , from Our Presence / AAindina . we are FOREVER / kunna SENDING messengers,
Amran (INDEFINITE, no end) means command or order, CONSTANTLY demanding, ALWAYS urging, CONSTANTLY inspiring
AAindina is a preposition which means AT THIS MOMENT, AT THIS INSTANT, WITH THESE WORDS
Kunna (perfect tense = PRESENT AND CONTINUOUS, 1st person, plural) means WE ARE; Root word
Messengers are constantly being inspired with Allah's guidance and conveying that guidance Whats the problem?
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I am Gods messenger to you all. I have accepted it...
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Peace everybody
in organizing older file found this may be intersted. just for record. The are growing up like mushrooms. Now is time make a list of them.Re Fresh Messengers Wed, 27 April 2005 0241
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The 'new messengers' are actually old news The following accounts are based on my memory and best knowledge - please do not regard them as 100% accurate but it draws a broader picture of the 'messenger' situation until recently.
One of the first was Bahattin Uzunkaya from Turkey who claimed to have predicted the earthquakes which occurred on the western coast of Turkey in 1999. He has also claimed to have found the "666 = Quran" theory. He declared his messengership based on this as well as a 19 based arbitrary 'mathematics' which involved his name, birthdate and address etc.
Kheikosrow Emami was a part of Rashad's submitter group and declared his messengership based on independently co-discovering the "666" finding. He also has tried predicting earthquakes - he wants to predict the BIG ONE in San Francisco - and has failed more than three times as far as I am aware. In fact I don't think he's been able to predict any earthquake. I think he may now be investing in a seismograph and is enrolled in a geology course at Tehran university (this last sentence is just a joke in case it wasn't clear).
The other messenger who still posts here H.O - Hasan Ozturk is another Turkish gentleman from Germany who became a part of a tripartite alliance with B.U and K.E. I don't know if Hasan Ozturk actually discovered anything or what his sign was - but he is fond of finding numerological meaning in timestamps on emails sent from and to him. He confirms and finds further proofs for some of the discoveries that Bahattin and Kheikosrow, his fellow messengers make.
At some point there was a falling out between Emami and Uzunkaya over some disputed claim of discovery over the 666 sign. This led to Emami branding Uzunkaya the "Jonah" of the times. They removed the links to each others pages and their alliance crumbled.
This did not discourage Emami. He had found a new ally in a gentleman named Mahmood Ahmad (an anaesthetist doctor I believe) who was based in Perth Australia and moved to the USA later. He at first claimed to be the man in 3620 who confirmed the messengership of the tripartite alliance. After this claim of 3620 was accepted by the three - again based on arbitrary 19 'mathematics' - Ahmed himself stumbled upon further proofs that he was actually more than the man in 3620. In fact he now claimed he was a messenger also.
But that was not the end of it. Other messengers were found to join the new threesome of K.E, H.O and A.N - a Japanese fellow named Ahmed Nishitoba also was accepted into the clan; and this was followed by another Iranian gentleman whose first name escapes me at the moment but his surname was Sharbatogli. As if this wasn't enough another straggler from France by the name of Pierre someone or other. There may have been one or two others; and all were confirmed messengers according to their elaborate and arbitrary 19 based proofs; combining the names and gematrical values in every which way.
This group reached its zenith in trying to make a grand prediction of an earthquake to strike in May after an earlier prediction in January did not materialise.
The big team of messengers argued over the signs and findings each emailing the others about their latest and greatest proof found on their excel spreadsheets and scientific calculators. The worldwide group of messengers exchanged emails furiously -
Kheikosrow and Pierre went to San Francisco warning people openly about a quake. They wrote to the president etc. The day came... and went... and no earthquake. The French guy Pierre promptly disassociated himself with the group. Mahmood Ahmad seems to have fallen out with most of the others and Kheikosrow seems to have abandon the whole earthquake prediction game. The big group self destructed as no news came from them at all after about the middle of last year.
Mahmood Ahmad whose site had plenty of material seems to have removed all of the pdf files that detailed much of what I write here and now has stuff on the tsunami and the 'miraculous' survival of mosque on Bandeh Aceh. He has plenty of pictures of concrete mosques with foundations surviving amongst flattened terrain - that had wooden rickety shack buildings! Hardly surprising, and hardly miraculous.
Kheikosrow's site has also stagnated in terms of real content. He seems to have become friends with Bahattin again - and has restored the link to his page. He has also removed the 'Jonah' article. Bahattin has updated his site several times but nothing really interesting (not that there was before). He is claiming a new quasi-prophecy in relation to the changeover of popes recently. Hasan Ozturk as I said posts here but he has always been fairly non-committal being rather elusive and not having a website of his own as far as I know.
There have been other messengers apart from this 19 based team. There has been Ali Fazely a physicist who was also in the 19 submitters group and later left them. Together with Ali has been Milan Sulc - these two have based their messengership upon a twist of the 19 sign together with 'ultimate mathematics' which deals with prime numbers, indexes of primes and permutations of groups of numbers etc. Some of their findings are actually quite reasonable and I believe Edip has given his approval to a sign in the Ha Mim group of chapters that Milan Sulc discovered.
Speaking of Ha Mim - another person by the name of Husain Makbool believes that he is a messenger based on the signs he has allegedly received in relation to the Ha Mim chapters (his initials) and the '7' sign - based on the 7 pairs that Rashad put forward. He has a website and it is like the former team all based on arbitrary 19 based findings. He has added his own twist of the 7 sign however.
Even all these do not exhaust the messenger candidates. There is also someone by the name of Sharif Ahmad who believes he is THE exclusive worldwide messenger. He unlike the others before does not believe in the 19 sign but bases his claim on 3340 where he argues that Muhammad is a 'conceptual' everlasting messenger who is manifest from time to time. He believes he is the current Muhammad because he discovered this. He makes claims of having extraordinary understandings of the koran but when pressed to mention just one - is unable to present anything new or insightful.
I'm sure there will be more.
Regards.
"My Lord, direct me to be appreciative of the blessings You have bestowed upon me and my parents, and to do the righteous works that please You. Admit me by Your mercy into the company of Your righteous servants."
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Peace everybody
in organizing older file found this may be intersted. just for record. The are growing up like mushrooms. Now is time make a list (of them.If you cease then what was before will be forgiven.
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If you cease then what was before will be forgiven.
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Oh please , Please . Be happy Put you knofe back in your pocket .Rashad is not here you put in his stomach . rotfl rotfl
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I am promoting all you messenger. Is happy world, full of messnegers. colors, music. did you see your freind messenger clip of Dalila. I worry if Abdallah kills himself for her like other one. ???I was expecting you sooner. )Did you go to MT Sinai visit God and His angels ? elektro Now we have collection of all kinds.
What was you Clear Proof / Oh ya FM transalation ,Layth should be happy tosee his translation a "meseenger maker"
like soft iceream maker. Now we have all kinds, different flours, but one get one free. Hiw is your you tube. Do need more click ?
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I am going to find more messneger. let us make a list of all messnegers are alive.
do you help me to do that PLeasssssssse giveup
But no knife now tell us what you have new for us here may siste becca shears her you yube with you. and please le Abdallah yo sit in the corner too.
You know siter beac may be invited by King Pope or Ayatohha Kamenei not the older one died and his body fell on the ground when was picked up by Helicopter, then all his dressing sheet over him become small pieces in hands of million gathering there keeping it in velevet box as has touched Imam body as a divine and it is long story ...forget it.
I said in other topic i hate human including myself and now isee iam nit wrong.
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Oh please , Please . Be happy Put you knofe back in your pocket .Rashad is not here you put in his stomach . rotfl rotfl
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I am promoting all you messenger. Is happy world, full of messnegers. colors, music. did you see your freind messenger clip of Dalila. I worry if Abdallah kills himself for her like other one. ???God is enuff for me, there is no god but He, in Him I put my trust, and He is the Lord of the great throne.
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Peace all
Bahman, God forbidden us from Making fun of anybody;(
O ye who believe! let not some men among you laugh at others, it may be they are better than them nor let some women laugh at others it may be they are better than them nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by offensive names Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, after he has believed And those who do not desist are (Indeed) doing wrong. (49-11)Please, you need to stop.
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Peace Anthony
Welcome Back Brother handshakeYou forgot tosay "Messneger" anthony ) rotfl
And then right translation is this.
O you who believe, no people shall ridicule other people, for they may be better than they. Nor shall any women ridicule other women, for they may be better than they. Nor shall you mock one another, or make fun of your names. Evil indeed is the reversion to wickedness after attaining faith. Anyone who does not repent after this, these are the transgressors.Where I said I am better and laughed . Your brother "Messneger Anthony" which is claiming to be messenger of ? COVENAT ? not covenant wrote this which is kind of terrorizing anybody here supporting Rashad Khalifah .
I am showing him that when Ibelieve in God Alone Quran Alone then my supporter is God Alone and iam not afraid from his knife.
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peace Everybody
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I am thinking to leave this forum. I am thinking that now is full of brain washed one still connected to their ex belief when they give lip service for mouthiest. Then looking to screen and see my name digitally 97 there ,
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I open gifted designed calculator by brother Mohammed ?Momo? in 19.org, ?sobo?
I do my prayer first chapter in Arabic front of this screen . and then insertNumbers . takes few minutes
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I consider it a support sign. I do not get hyper. Isay thank you God in my mind. I have been used to it. It is support for any believer can be inspired and get help.
The hearys should be cleared of prejudices and hate which is reflection of our weakness against Satan using our 5 senses to defeat us .
I never can be 100% prefect. I am living in earth ruled by Satan ,my soul is poisoned in this ugly body which is symbol of my sin
All those above is sign approving my decision, ihave been here , nothing new, I am rusting here ..
I see eye with no light in those, I see faces no happiness in them, isee hatred and prejudices ia covering heart to the point supporting criminal terrorizing others by the name of God.
Another manipulated forum from top to sown. I do not belong to this forum avoiding Quran Alone and bans me when I asked why?
Since then I can not trust , I feel uncomfortable that with my writing. I have to censor myself before I be banned, wasting time.
I move out and let you do your usual business that your parent did it for 1400 years in those Hojrahs in idolized masques fabricating Hathis and now their children with academic degrees and modern dress code knowing couple languages are following what they followed and they end to same point. IDOLAZATION.
Peace. and bye.
Bahman Goharzad
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Peace Anthony
Welcome Back Brother handshakepeace bro, sun
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Where I said I am better and laughed . Your brother "Messneger Anthony" which is claiming to be messenger of ? COVENAT ? not covenant wrote this which is kind of terrorizing anybody here supporting Rashad Khalifah .
I am showing him that when Ibelieve in God Alone Quran Alone then my supporter is God Alone and iam not afraid from his knife.
Watch your brother knife. You believe that Messnegr are teacher and now you have 3. good luck rotfl rotfl rotfl rotflGod Alone is what you claim, but you not promotin it. You are promoting the number 19 alone and Rashad Khalifa. Show me those who you have set up as partners wit Him. No, He is but God ,the One. Show me what they have created on Earth, or do they have partnership in the heavens and earth?
Here you are bending your side to mislead from the Path without knowledge. I have given you notice suffeciently. As for you and what you serve besides Him, you cannot lead away from Him.
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I am Gods messenger to you all. I have accepted it...
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Peace,
Are you kidding us to get more attention?
With all these messengers the Hour must be near pr
Maria
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Peace,
Are you kidding us to get more attention?
With all these messengers the Hour must be near pr
Maria
There is no kidding wit me, and I seek refuge wit my Lord that I be of the ignorant. And the judgment of the people draws near, while they are turning away unaware.
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God Alone is what you claim, but you not promotin it. You are promoting the number 19 alone and Rashad Khalifa. Show me those who you have set up as partners wit Him. No, He is but God ,the One. Show me what they have created on Earth, or do they have partnership in the heavens and earth?
Wow, this is getting even more ridiculous than before! Who said anything about promoting "19 alone" or "Rashad Khalifa alone"? No offense, but you sound outrageously ignorant, straying toward stupidity. It sounds like you're promoting "Anthony Wallace alone". Are you planning on placing your name in a new "shahaada" for your followers? )
Peace,
Ahmad