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Should we stone A. Wallace?

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    anthonywallace
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    Peace be upon all those who are paitient, and the truthful.

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      anthonywallace
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      Peace be upon all those who are paitient, and the truthful.

      And to you rejecters " You will be defeated and gathered towards Hell! What a miserable dwelling!

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        And some of them only wait for a disater or some misfourtune to befall you, then they turn away happy and they say " We took our precausions before hand...."

        nothing will befall us except what has been decreed for us. God is our protecter.

        I am not a caretaker over you!

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          " And we are not sent except by the command of your Lord. With Him is our present and our furture. The Lord of the heavenes and the Earth and everything inbetween them. So be paitient in His service. Do you know of anything like Him?"

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            God_Within
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            Peace be upon you,

            What is this nonsense? Lets get back to serious discussion

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              anthonywallace
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              Those who reject ask you to bring them a scripture from the heavens or to see God openly. And they ask you to bring a Quran other than this or change it. What he should have said was " It is not for me to change it on my own accord. As for those who believe in falshood and reject God, then they are the losers.

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                Ahmad_Bilal
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                Peace God Within,

                What is this nonsense? Lets get back to serious discussion

                I agree. This is really ridiculous.

                Peace,

                Ahmad

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                  Im 25, will be 26, God willing on the 21st...

                  what i dont understand is that god has always brought messengers after the age of 40 accept for jesus, im not sure about yahya though,i dont recall any others in the quran being younger then forty.why now mind you i know of a messenger by the name of ahmad nashitobi hehas his own website as well. and i know others that have suggested to be messengers, who are younger then forty, but why god change his ways now... ???

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                    muhammad2cool4u
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                    hi all!

                    very interesting post, anthony! i am often remarked in my family
                    as being like the prophet ayyub. at least one person has decribed
                    me as the "spiritual" son of ayyub. although my entire family are
                    christians, they have remarked that i am "the son of ayyub". my
                    afflictions are many. had hepatitis c all my life since i was 12yrs
                    old and have been attacked by a jinn spirit as a young child.

                    i had an ex-partner who used to tell me horrible things and tried
                    to make me give up my belief in god for a loose sex life with her.
                    believe in no sex before marriage and i wasn't ever married to my
                    ex-partner.

                    in the past several years, i have been afflicted with
                    some really horrible incidents caused by shaytan and jinn so
                    badly, that i feel that i am "the son of ayyub". it's just a belief my
                    family shares with me and it hasn't left the family until i have'
                    mentioned it in this post.

                    i don't believe in
                    reicarnation, as it is not in the quran or even the gospels nor
                    tanakh. therefore, reincarnation is most likely a false belief,
                    because the quran would have mentioned it in its revelation to
                    the prophet muhammad. there is such a belief that a likeness
                    in personality types of the prophets of the quran, being within
                    a person, but this is yet another more personal theory of opinion,
                    than a verified quranic belief.

                    this is just a personal thought.
                    please be careful what you are saying, because people might not
                    understand and you can run into all sorts of issues with the
                    general public, if you tell the wrong person. being a recipient of
                    mental health services myself, i've seen many people "crash-and-
                    burn" very badly by making certain claims like the one you are
                    making, brother.

                    it is a lot more contraversial than a person
                    declaring to others that he/she is a muslim or believer in the
                    the quran. please guard your thoughts, because this has raised
                    some "red flags" with others and myself included. some people
                    might not be as accepting and you could open yourself up to
                    some unwanted, negative attention. have a nice night!

                    peace,
                    Roger

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                      Peace Anna'

                      what i dont understand is that god has always brought messengers after the age of 40 accept for jesus, im not sure about yahya though,i dont recall any others in the quran being younger then forty.why now mind you i know of a messenger by the name of ahmad nashitobi hehas his own website as well. and i know others that have suggested to be messengers, who are younger then forty, but why god change his ways now... ???

                      Please don't be offended but I think that you are very naive. I browsed through Nishitoba's website before and I found it to be full of nonsense. This guy actually claimed that god inspired him through some calculations from the great reading to predict an earthquake in San Francisco on the 9th of November and every year when it doesn't happen he claims that god delayed it and that it will happen next year with new calculations to back it up. Would god promise something and then break his promise? of course not. what does this have to do with the message of god? There are more self proclaimed messengers like him in the 19.org website following the same trend. These people have no fear of god and they're playing with his book and are misguiding people. Be careful of them.

                      Peace,

                      Hadi

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                        Peace Anna'

                        Please don't be offended but I think that you are very naive. I browsed through Nishitoba's website before and I found it to be full of nonsense. This guy actually claimed that god inspired him through some calculations from the great reading to predict an earthquake in San Francisco on the 9th of November and every year when it doesn't happen he claims that god delayed it and that it will happen next year with new calculations to back it up. Would god promise something and then break his promise? of course not. what does this have to do with the message of god? There are more self proclaimed messengers like him in the 19.org website following the same trend. These people have no fear of god and they're playing with his book and are misguiding people. Be careful of them.

                        Peace,

                        Hadi

                        well thank you very much, maybe i am naive or maybe you need glasses,didnt read right, i dont remember saying anywhere i do or dont beleive in him.

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                          Hadi
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                          Anna,

                          well thank you very much, maybe i am naive or maybe you need glasses,didnt read right, i dont remember saying anywhere i do or dont beleive in him.

                          I suggest you go back and read your post you refered to him as a messenger and then you asked why god is now sending younger messengers. Now what does that say?

                          and no need to be insulting, it was only advice.

                          Peace,

                          Hadi

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                            anthonywallace
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                            hi all!

                            this is just a personal thought.
                            please be careful what you are saying, because people might not
                            understand and you can run into all sorts of issues with the
                            general public, if you tell the wrong person. being a recipient of
                            mental health services myself, i've seen many people "crash-and-
                            burn" very badly by making certain claims like the one you are
                            making, brother.

                            it is a lot more contraversial than a person
                            declaring to others that he/she is a muslim or believer in the
                            the quran. please guard your thoughts, because this has raised
                            some "red flags" with others and myself included. some people
                            might not be as accepting and you could open yourself up to
                            some unwanted, negative attention. have a nice night!

                            peace,
                            Roger

                            Peace,

                            Interesting story.

                            And Abraham is your father. And my Lord knows what is said in the heavens and Earth, nothing is hidden from Him. And He is my Protector. In Him I put my trust.
                            My Lord has inspired to me this Quran to warn with it and announce good news to the believers...I live on faith. The more I read the Quran the more insired I become that I am one of the messengers. Like just today at salat I read the chapter, I forgot its number 30somthing, The first thing God said to me was Y,S . You are one of the messengers. Upon a straight path.I have accepted the role as Gods messenger. And He has made me a leader and I am the first of those who have submmited. I am commanded to be the first who submits...

                            My claims are directly experienced as revaled truth.

                            peace

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                              anthonywallace
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                              This was the universal year of new beginings, the year of initiation.2+0+0+8= 10= 1+0= 1 ( first ).
                              Next year the messengers will step into the spotlight. Universal year 2. Except if God wills. sun

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                                Anna,

                                I suggest you go back and read your post you refered to him as a messenger and then you asked why god is now sending younger messengers. Now what does that say?

                                and no need to be insulting, it was only advice.

                                Peace,

                                Hadi

                                im not trying to insult you, but i dont believe im naive either......now yes i used the word messenger but where in my post did i say i believe in him or not confused

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                                  Peace Anna

                                  im not trying to insult you, but i dont believe im naive either......now yes i used the word messenger but where in my post did i say i believe in him or not confused

                                  I'm sorry if I misunderstood but when I saw that you called that guy messenger I assumed you believed so I couldn't help but step in and give you advice.

                                  Peace,

                                  Hadi

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                                    Peace Anna

                                    I'm sorry if I misunderstood but when I saw that you called that guy messenger I assumed you believed so I couldn't help but step in and give you advice.

                                    Peace,

                                    Hadi

                                    thank you group

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                                      thank you group

                                      sun

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                                        anthonywallace
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                                        awwww

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                                          progod
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                                          Peace,

                                          You guys are doing just fine without me, so maybe I shouldn't even comment. But I just wanted to say that one can be a spiritual messenger or a messenger of many things (you are just bringing a message, which is hopefully important and helpful) without being specifically God's messenger. I didn't read all of those posts so forgive me if I'm just repeating maybe what someone else has said. I also believe that to be God's messenger you need to be God's prophet. So you recieve knowledge from from the unseen realm as a prophet, and from an unseen agent of God (angels), or God itself/himself as a prophet of God. And you are charged to deliver a message as the messenger of the thing or person who charged you with the delivery of that message. If you are a messenger but not a prophet, your the messenger of something seen and common in our world, like the messenger of a king, your friend, your parents etc etc. But as a messenger of God or somethnig else from the unseen realm you must have recieved that message in a prophetic way through some form of inpsiration where that unseen element has made positive contact with you that you can find no way to doubt or cannot rationalize in some other fashion.

                                          The Quran tells all of us to take the example of God's messenger, Muhammad, and to go out and spread the message of the Quran. But that does make us all God's messengers. We become messengers FOR God, but not messengers of God.

                                          I say all that to say Anthony, if you are positive that you were born to bring a message to mankind or to those in your circle and surroundings then the Quran does say that God has given us all a goal that he will push us towards. And I gladly accept and encourage you to bring that message out for all to see. Hopefully we can learn from it. But it is a big difference between saying that we are God's messengers and thus saying that we believe that God has personally charged us with a message through one of his angels or by personally calling us to this task, and saying that we believe God has guided us to a truth and guided us to the knowledge that we must expose that truth for as many as possible to see. In that case we are Messengers of the Truth but not messengers of God, even if one of God's attributes is The Truth (this name is somewhat profound and can be misleading. God is the Truth because he is the author of all things true and he represents all things true, hence making Him synonymous with the Truth. Just like we can say that a statement is true OR the truth). I'm sure you see what I mean?

                                          but I hope you help humanity through the message you bring.

                                          Godbless,
                                          Anwar

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