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    Al_Khidr
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    Hi everyone. How does one pray in Islam? Do you know of any good online guides to praying in Islam? I am hoping it is not the complex way I was taught via non-Quran Alone Islam. It would have taken me forever to learn that.

    As Salaamu Alaykum

    Noticed that no one provided you with complete instructions on how to observe salaat. Allah makes it very clear in the Qur'aan that observing salaat is very important so we went to know how to do it correctly.

    First be aware of the false teachings of the 3 Salaat Theory which is addressed in this website below

    http//www.freewebs.com/tawhiyd/3salaattheoryexposed.htm

    Allah prescribed 5 Salaat in Al Qur?aan, not 1, 2, 3, 4 which you will commonly hear among Progress Moslems.

    Below is a website where you can find the tools on how to observe the 5 Salaat as prescribed in Al Qur'aan

    http//www.freewebs.com/salaat

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      Ahmad_Bilal
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      Peace to all,

      There's a question that puzzles me about the Salaat (contact prayer) taught by Rashad Khalifa, and it's the same example as the Sunnite prayers. At the end of their salaat, they look to the right and the left and say, "As Salaamu Alaykum" on both sides. This is used as a greeting throughout the Muslim world, and the Quran confirms that the greeting of the believers will be "Salaam"/Peace. However, the Quran states that the contact prayers are dedicated and directed to GOD ALONE. So, my question is

      Who are they greeting? Why do they say, "As Salaamu Alaykum" to the right and the left, and who are they saying it to?

      Peace,

      Ahmad

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        Al_Khidr
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        Peace to all,

        There's a question that puzzles me about the Salaat (contact prayer) taught by Rashad Khalifa, and it's the same example as the Sunnite prayers. At the end of their salaat, they look to the right and the left and say, "As Salaamu Alaykum" on both sides. This is used as a greeting throughout the Muslim world, and the Quran confirms that the greeting of the believers will be "Salaam"/Peace. However, the Quran states that the contact prayers are dedicated and directed to GOD ALONE. So, my question is

        Who are they greeting? Why do they say, "As Salaamu Alaykum" to the right and the left, and who are they saying it to?

        Peace,

        Ahmad

        Salaam Ahmad

        Good question and I know that traces of this, saying the salaams after prayer is found in the Qur'aan

        Qur'aan 1010
        Their PRAYER therein is "Be You glorified, our Creator," THEIR GREETING THEREIN IS, "PEACE," and their ultimate prayer is ?Praise be to Allah, The Cherisher and Sustainer of the all the Boundless Universes.?

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          Ahmad_Bilal
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          As Salaamu Alaykum Al Khidr,

          Good question and I know that traces of this, saying the salaams after prayer is found in the Qur'aan

          Qur'aan 1010
          Their PRAYER therein is "Be You glorified, our Creator," THEIR GREETING THEREIN IS, "PEACE," and their ultimate prayer is ?Praise be to Allah, The Cherisher and Sustainer of the all the Boundless Universes.?

          Praise be to Allah ("Alhamdulilah&quot, thanks for your use of the Quran Alone as a reference; I very much appreciate it. I understand this fact, and I've read this verse many times in reference to the greetings among the peoples, but who is this greeting directed toward? We don't approach Allah with, "As Salaamu Alaykum", do we? I've always pondered this question, but nobody's ever been able to give me a response to it. I understand the greetings if we are performing Salaat in a group setting, and AFTER THE SALAAT, you are greeting the submitters to your right and left. However, this can't be the case DURING the Salaat, since it's dedicated to GOD ALONE. And also, Rashad Khalifa taught that this greeting ("As Salaamu Alaykum&quot is to be stated even if praying alone/not in the company of others. So, who exactly are we greeting?

          Peace,

          Ahmad

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            TheNabi
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            Peace

            I don't think I have to mention that salaat is not mentioned in 10/10. Also keeping in line with the context there are 2 divergent abodes mentioned , the latter being the one where peace is infused.

            Joe

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              Bigmo
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              I thought the salaam to the left and right was made for the angels on your left and right

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                Ahmad_Bilal
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                Peace Bigmo,

                I thought the salaam to the left and right was made for the angels on your left and right

                If saying, "As Salaamu Alaykum" is part of the Salaat and it's directed at the angels, that means the Salaat is dedicated to more than Allah; it's also directed towards the angels. Also, if saying this greeting DURING the Salaat is directed toward the believers to your right and left, this also means that the Salaat is dedicated to more than Allah; it's dedicated also to humans. Both of these acts are forms of idolatry/shirk.

                Peace,

                Ahmad

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                  belH
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                  First be aware of the false teachings of the 3 Salaat Theory which is addressed in this website below

                  http//www.freewebs.com/tawhiyd/3salaattheoryexposed.htm

                  Allah prescribed 5 Salaat in Al Qur?aan, not 1, 2, 3, 4 which you will commonly hear among Progress Moslems.

                  Peace all
                  As per 3-7, believers should follow well-established meaning verses in order to know their obligated duties. Now, I know that Sunset, night, and Dawn prayers are commended in a very well-established verses. But on the other hand, Zuher and Aser time are not mentioned in well-established verses to be as time for prayers.
                  The article claims that The following are the verses that calls for the Zuher and Asr

                  (2) The Noon Prayer (Zuhr), given in 1778 and 3018
                  (3) The Afternoon Prayer (Asr), given in 2238

                  Qur?aan 1778 was translator in the article as follow
                  You shall observe the Salaat when the sun declines from its highest point at noon, as it moves towards sunset. You shall also observe (the recitation of) the Qur?aan at dawn. (Reciting) the Qur?aan at dawn is witnessed.
                  The red part is added by the translated and is not written in Quran; thus, if you remove them, the verse is calling for Sunset prayer.
                  Moreover, 30-18 has no mentioning to establish prayer.

                  Qur?aan 2238 was translated in the article as follow

                  You shall consistently observe the Salaat especially the middle Prayer (the afternoon Prayer), and devote yourselves totally to Allah alone.

                  Again, the red part is added by the translator and not in Quran. Thus if you ignore the added part, the middle prayer can be understood (if we refer to the well-established verses that call for Sunset, Night and Dawn prayers) as the Night Prayer.
                  Moreover, please note the following verse
                  Qur?aan 2458
                  O you who believe, permission must be requested by your servants and the children who have not attained puberty. This is to be done in three instances-before the Dawn Prayer, at noon when you change your clothes to rest, and after the Night Prayer. These are three private times for you. At other times, it is not wrong for you or them to mingle with one another. Allah thus clarifies the revelations for you. Allah is Omniscient, Most Wise.

                  Now, please note the red colored words and the blue ones. If there is a prayer during noon, why God did not mention (in blue word section) as He did when speaking about the Dawn and night (red colored section)?

                  May God lead us to the truth.
                  Peace

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                    Mr_Deen
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                    http//www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/quranindex.html
                    times of day of, 11114, 1778, 1779, 20130, 2436, 2458, 3017-18, 3216, 3818, 5039-40, 5117, 5248-49, 732-4, 7625-26

                    First, middle, last

                    011.114
                    YUSUFALI And establish regular prayers at the two ends of the day and at the approaches of the night For those things, that are good remove those that are evil Be that the word of remembrance to those who remember (their Lord)

                    017.078 (is this a good translation?)
                    YUSUFALI Establish regular prayers - at the sun's decline till the darkness of the night, and the morning prayer and reading for the prayer and reading in the morning carry their testimony.

                    First

                    017.079
                    YUSUFALI And pray in the small watches of the morning (it would be) an additional prayer (or spiritual profit) for thee soon will thy Lord raise thee to a Station of Praise and Glory!

                    First, middle
                    050.039
                    YUSUFALI Bear, then, with patience, all that they say, and celebrate the praises of thy Lord, before the rising of the sun and before (its) setting.

                    First, last

                    024.058
                    YUSUFALI O ye who believe! let those whom your right hands possess, and the (children) among you who have not come of age ask your permission (before they come to your presence), on three occasions before morning prayer; the while ye doff your clothes for the noonday heat; and after the late-night prayer these are your three times of undress outside those times it is not wrong for you or for them to move about attending to each other Thus does Allah make clear the Signs to you for Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom.

                    030.017
                    YUSUFALI So (give) glory to Allah, when ye reach eventide and when ye rise in the morning;

                    024.036
                    YUSUFALI (Lit is such a Light) in houses, which Allah hath permitted to be raised to honour; for the celebration, in them, of His name In them is He glorified in the mornings and in the evenings, (again and again),-

                    076.025
                    YUSUFALI And celebrate the name of thy Lord morning and evening,

                    middle, last

                    030.018
                    YUSUFALI Yea, to Him be praise, in the heavens and on earth; and in the late afternoon and when the day begins to decline.

                    038.018
                    YUSUFALI It was We that made the hills declare, in unison with him, Our Praises, at eventide and at break of day,

                    First, middle, last, first, middle

                    020.130
                    YUSUFALI Therefore be patient with what they say, and celebrate (constantly) the praises of thy Lord, before the rising of the sun, and before its setting; yea, celebrate them for part of the hours of the night, and at the sides of the day that thou mayest have (spiritual) joy.

                    Intuitive prayer

                    032.016
                    YUSUFALI Their limbs do forsake their beds of sleep, the while they call on their Lord, in Fear and Hope and they spend (in charity) out of the sustenance which We have bestowed on them.

                    051.018 (error in the index)
                    YUSUFALI And in the hour of early dawn, they (were found) praying for Forgiveness;

                    052.048
                    YUSUFALI Now await in patience the command of thy Lord for verily thou art in Our eyes and celebrate the praises of thy Lord the while thou standest forth,

                    073.002
                    YUSUFALI Stand (to prayer) by night, but not all night,-

                    073.003
                    YUSUFALI Half of it,- or a little less,

                    073.004
                    YUSUFALI Or a little more; and recite the Qur'an in slow, measured rhythmic tones.

                    076.026
                    YUSUFALI And part of the night, prostrate thyself to Him; and glorify Him a long night through.

                    I also remember a verse in the Quran about middle prayer, and to especially guard it. Maybe I missed it in the index.
                    Quickly compiled, but you get the idea.

                    So, apart from intuitive prayer, and looking at previous renditions of Abrahamic faith, 3 seems like the definitive number.

                    addition Also, the prayer direction was changed (from jewish tradition), so it would indicate that jewish tradition were respected, and changed.

                    (reposted from http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9597462.msg185742#msg185742 , I know it's not easy to follow all the threads)

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                      Ahmad_Bilal
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                      Peace Belalhammad,

                      As per 3-7, believers should follow well-established meaning verses in order to know their obligated duties. Now, I know that Sunset, night, and Dawn prayers are commended in a very well-established verses. But on the other hand, Zuher and Aser time are not mentioned in well-established verses to be as time for prayers.
                      The article claims that The following are the verses that calls for the Zuher and Asr

                      (2) The Noon Prayer (Zuhr), given in 1778 and 3018
                      (3) The Afternoon Prayer (Asr), given in 2238

                      Qur?aan 1778 was translator in the article as follow
                      You shall observe the Salaat when the sun declines from its highest point at noon, as it moves towards sunset. You shall also observe (the recitation of) the Qur?aan at dawn. (Reciting) the Qur?aan at dawn is witnessed.
                      The red part is added by the translated and is not written in Quran; thus, if you remove them, the verse is calling for Sunset prayer.
                      Moreover, 30-18 has no mentioning to establish prayer.

                      I agree with this. The Quran definately promotes the dawn and evening prayers in well-established verses, and then the night prayer is mentioned several times throughout the scripture as well.

                      Quraan 2238 was translated in the article as follow

                      You shall consistently observe the Salaat especially the middle Prayer (the afternoon Prayer), and devote yourselves totally to Allah alone.

                      Again, the red part is added by the translator and not in Quran. Thus if you ignore the added part, the middle prayer can be understood (if we refer to the well-established verses that call for Sunset, Night and Dawn prayers) as the Night Prayer.

                      Moreover, please note the following verse
                      Quraan 2458
                      O you who believe, permission must be requested by your servants and the children who have not attained puberty. This is to be done in three instances-before the Dawn Prayer, at noon when you change your clothes to rest, and after the Night Prayer. These are three private times for you. At other times, it is not wrong for you or them to mingle with one another. Allah thus clarifies the revelations for you. Allah is Omniscient, Most Wise.

                      Now, please note the red colored words and the blue ones. If there is a prayer during noon, why God did not mention (in blue word section) as He did when speaking about the Dawn and night (red colored section)?

                      Again, you are correct on this issue as well, brother. Some have translated 2238 as "middle Salaat/prayer", while others have translated it as best, or even balanced, prayer. However, since all the prayers are required as part of our worship to Allah, then there is no "best" prayer. Also, the first instance of the prayer/salaat is used in the plural form, clearly meaning there are more than 2 prayers. So, this middle/"wusta" prayer is obviously talking about the night prayer.

                      Peace,

                      Ahmad

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                        Wakas
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                        I recommend using the search function to find discussions of the same topic which have been discussed in greater detail, e.g
                        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=7727.0

                        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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