Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Users
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Free Minds Forum Icon
  1. Home
  2. General Issues / Questions
  3. Questions/Comments on the Quran
  4. Poll for brothers only

Poll for brothers only

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Questions/Comments on the Quran
189 Posts 24 Posters 11.7k Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • J Offline
    J Offline
    Jasmin
    wrote on last edited by
    #68

    Disney porn
    http//uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2_4Pe_kPNb0

    Wiki

    Pornography or porn is the explicit depiction of sexual subject matter with the sole intention of sexually exciting the viewer. It is to a certain extent similar to erotica, which is the use of sexually arousing imagery.

    Oops, I keep forgetting, Opera has block images feature!

    Far,
    If you have an issue with my avatar and you feel this strongly about it, then go and speak to a moderator. peace

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • F Offline
      F Offline
      FAR
      wrote on last edited by
      #69

      Far,
      If you have an issue with my avatar and you feel this strongly about it, then go and speak to a moderator. peace

      Ah the issue has disapeared.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • J Offline
        J Offline
        Jasmin
        wrote on last edited by
        #70

        Ah the issue has disapeared.

        Ah thats good to hear! handshake ;D

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • A Offline
          A Offline
          anna
          wrote on last edited by
          #71

          Ah thats good to hear! handshake ;D

          now that you have settled this quarrel why dont we get back to the original question of the thread.... bravo angel

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • J Offline
            J Offline
            Jasmin
            wrote on last edited by
            #72

            now that you have settled this quarrel why dont we get back to the original question of the thread.... bravo angel

            thank you ;D I agree

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • A Offline
              A Offline
              afridi220
              wrote on last edited by
              #73

              thank you ;D I agree D

              Thanks God for the first time since Allah created this univers two ladies agreed on something laugh

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • J Offline
                J Offline
                Jasmin
                wrote on last edited by
                #74

                Thanks God for the first time since Allah created this univers two ladies agreed on something laugh

                rotfl

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • B Offline
                  B Offline
                  belH
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #75

                  Thank you handshake
                  It's evident, we know, but I hope belalhammad reads this AND understands it

                  Peace all
                  Samia please reread my complete post to know why I said.

                  the conduct of belalh is offensive and patronizing.

                  Al Araf, can you quote the part of my posts that made you feel that way so I can clarify or apologize to you.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • M Offline
                    M Offline
                    mmkhan
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #76

                    Salaaman Afridi,

                    And that will be his secong wife eat

                    ( >( >(

                    Khan

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • A Offline
                      A Offline
                      Al_Araf
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #77

                      salam. allah makes the laws for muslims. allah provides examples of what he has allowed.

                      who are these people who forbid that which allah has allowed?
                      who are these people who forbid that which allah has exemplified?
                      are these people greater than allah? they can forbid or dissaprove?
                      may allah protect me from the whispering of the shaitan.

                      not present in the quran is a verse that forbids men to have more than one wife, mistress, or girlfriend.
                      not present in the quran is a verse that dissaproves of men having more than one wife, mistress or girlfriend.
                      in the quran there are examples of men with more than one wife, and women not described as wives.
                      this is adequate instruction for a believer.

                      allah distinguished the truth from falsehood.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • B Offline
                        B Offline
                        belH
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #78

                        not present in the quran is a verse that forbids men to have mistress, or girlfriend.

                        Which verses that approve Mistress or Girlfriend?

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • H Offline
                          H Offline
                          Hope
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #79

                          allah provides examples of what he has allowed.

                          can you give the quraanic example for allowing mistress.

                          peace

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • S Offline
                            S Offline
                            Samia
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #80

                            not present in the quran is a verse that forbids men to have more than one wife, mistress, or girlfriend.
                            not present in the quran is a verse that dissaproves of men having more than one wife, mistress or girlfriend.
                            in the quran there are examples of men with more than one wife, and women not described as wives.
                            this is adequate instruction for a believer.

                            allah distinguished the truth from falsehood.

                            Are you saying, in other words, that there's no verse that prohibits fornication or adultry?

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • U Offline
                              U Offline
                              unknownuser
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #81

                              Salam,

                              Please read

                              2432

                              Shakir
                              And marry those among you who are single and those who are fit among your male slaves and your female slaves; if they are needy, Allah will make them free from want out of His grace; and Allah is Ample-giving, Knowing.

                              and

                              2433

                              Shakir
                              And let those who do not find the means to marry keep chaste until Allah makes them free from want out of His grace. And (as for) those who ask for a writing from among those whom your right hands possess, give them the writing if you know any good in them, and give them of the wealth of Allah which He has given you; and do not compel your slave girls to prostitution, when they desire to keep chaste, in order to seek the frail good of this world's life; and whoever compels them, then surely after their compulsion Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

                              Disclaimer The Arabic is there if you can read Arabic. The Translation is there for a guide. No translation is accurate.

                              Salam,
                              Arnab

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • A Offline
                                A Offline
                                Al_Araf
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #82

                                salam samia. the reason you ask this question, is not because you want an answer from me.

                                you have the quran in your hand, and you can read arabic.

                                did you see the words adultery and fornication in my post, no you did not.

                                when you can read arabic, and you know each one of my statements is true.
                                then your niyat for asking this question is suspect.
                                what is your niyat for asking this question?

                                allah is the truth

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • A Offline
                                  A Offline
                                  Al_Araf
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #83

                                  salam belalh. you are using your twisted method of debate again. i pointed this out to you before.

                                  you make up claims, in your mind, then say another person has said this, then you demand the person defend the claim you made up.

                                  do you see anywhere in my post the claim that "a quran verse approves of mistress and girlfriend"
                                  no, you did not.
                                  that came from your mind.
                                  then you claim i said this.
                                  and then you demand i defend what you made up.

                                  allah exposes falsehood with the truth.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • A Offline
                                    A Offline
                                    Al_Araf
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #84

                                    salam hope. in the quran, do you see any example of allah, instructing that he dissaproves, or, has a punishment for anyone who has a mistress or girlfriend?

                                    that example is enough.

                                    allah raises man by stages.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • M Offline
                                      M Offline
                                      mmkhan
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #85

                                      Salaaman Hammad,

                                      Which verses that approve Mistress or Girlfriend?

                                      I this aayat may clear off things inshaAllah.


                                      55 Today, all the good things of life have been made lawful to you. And the food of those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime is lawful to you, and your food is lawful to them. And , in wedlock, women from among those who believe, and, in wedlock, women from among those who have been vouchsafed revelation before your time -provided that you give them their dowers, taking them in honest wedlock, not in fornication, nor as secret love-companions. But as for him who rejects belief - in vain will be all his works for in the life to come he shall be among the lost.

                                      (55)


                                      What do you think?

                                      May Allah guide us all towards the correct path pr

                                      Khan

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • A Offline
                                        A Offline
                                        Al_Araf
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #86

                                        salam arnab. the verses you quote relate to marriage. they do not prohibit a mistress or girlfriend.

                                        your translation of 2433 is defective in more than one instance.

                                        first there is no prohibition on that verse because the word for prohibit, haram, is not present in that sentence.

                                        secondly the word, wa leystaafifi, specifically wlystaaff, the root of which is aaff, is not the same as the arabic word aafif, which means chaste.

                                        the difference lies between, aaff and aafif.

                                        if you examine the different translations, the translators say the variations of aaff mean different things in different verses. one variation i see is they claim it means modest, which is more in keeping with the issue of means, the context of that verse. in other words, remain modest until you have the means.

                                        there is no apparent consistency in context between chastity and means, does that mean a poor person should divorce his wives? there is a western pagan practice of wives divorcing their husbands if allah tries them with poverty. allah uses trials and poverty to expose the disbelievers. allah also uses the trial of poverty to rid a believer of a disbelieving spouse, because the disbeliever tries to turn the believer away from allah.

                                        regardless, you have not found a verse that prohibits a mistress or a girlfriend.

                                        allah is the truth.

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • A Offline
                                          A Offline
                                          Al_Araf
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #87

                                          salam mmkhan. 55 does not prohibit, make haram, a mistress or girlfriend. the word haram is not in that sentence.

                                          if i accept your translation as correct. your translation could be used to prove my point.

                                          if it says, a secret love companion is dissaproved, not forbidden, dissaproved.
                                          then a non secret love companion, an open love companion, is not dissaproved or forbidden.
                                          therefore, an open love companion is mubah.

                                          what is interesting is, allah has used the word akhdan, in the quran, which is claimed to mean secret lovers.
                                          allah has not said in the quran, wa akhdan harramun aleyka. therefore it is not haram, prohibited.
                                          the most anyone can claim is secret is makruh, disliked.

                                          none of this prohibits or dissaproves of an open mistress or girlfriend,

                                          allah is the law.

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Users