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    Al_Araf
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    salam siki. no akhi that translation is a complete mistake.

    the arabic word for supersede is "alagh" and supersedes is "yalghi" neither alagh or yalghi are in that sura.

    54 wanzalna alayka alkitab balhaq musadiqa lama bayn yadyh min alkitab. this translates to sent upon you is the book of truth confirming that before of the book.

    the word musadiqa means confirming. it does not mean superseding. the word kitab means book. it does not mean scripture. there is mistake after mistake. i cannot agree with the above.

    therefore 54 is saying the kitab given to muhamad confirms the kitab given to musa, daud, and isa.

    allah is the knower.

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      siki
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      AlArf , any body

      what does this word "wa Moheminnan" means? what is the exact root? I have failed to trace this word, is it meem nun alif , or something else?

      siki

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        Samia
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        AlArf , any body

        what does this word "wa Moheminnan" means? what is the exact root? I have failed to trace this word, is it meem nun alif , or something else?

        siki

        The root is Ha Meem Nuun

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          siki
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          The root is Ha Meem Nuun

          lane shows as hamman, and does not mention 5-48 for its usage? may be it is something else.

          alarf what do you think it is?

          Samia , any other suggestion?

          siki

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            Samia
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            lane shows as hamman, and does not mention 5-48 for its usage? may be it is something else.

            alarf what do you think it is?

            Samia , any other suggestion?

            siki

            Some linguists claim the root to be Alif Meem Nuun. Maybe Lane translates from some of them. Search this word in Lane under this other root.

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              Jasmin
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              salam arnab. dont ever call me a liar. i can post the complete message here. however in order not to embarass the moderator i will post part of the message.

              Not only do you have a problem deciphering the Quran you also have a problem deciphering posts..

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                siki
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                Some linguists claim the root to be Alif Meem Nuun. Maybe Lane translates from some of them. Search this word in Lane under this other root.

                samia! still no luck, I just cant find this word anywhere, any further suggestions?

                wakas ! can you help?

                siki

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                  Al_Araf
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                  salam siki. akhi the word is wmhymna. strip out the "w" which represents "and" strip out the "a" which represents "to you"

                  the word you are left with is mhymn

                  which means dominant.

                  wmhymna means "and dominant to you"

                  project root list provides the following analysis of the root
                  ha-Ya-Miim-Nun = to watch over, oversee, expand the wings (hen over their chickens), control. To be witness to, offer security and peace, protect, determine what is true. muhaimanun - guardian to watch and determine what is true and what is false witness, afforder of security and peace, controller and superintendent of all the affairs, protector.

                  in aramaic mhymna means trustworthy and loyal. therefore the sense being conveyed by the word, is "the trustworthy dominant book before you"

                  this reading of 548 conveys an understanding of the book that consistent with the verses of the quran. if the torah is "the law" then it makes sense that the law is trustworthy and would dominate the remainder of the book.

                  allah is the best of those who teach.

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                    belH
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                    this reading of 548 conveys an understanding of the book that consistent with the verses of the quran. if the torah is "the law" then it makes sense that the law is trustworthy and would dominate the remainder of the book.

                    That is a Slam Dunk Lie from Saten rotfl
                    7-157

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                    7157 ?Those who follow the Gentile messenger prophet whom they find written for them in the Torah and the Injeel; he orders them to goodness, and deters them from evil, and he makes lawful for them the good things, and he forbids for them the evil, and he removes their burden and the shackles that are upon them. So those who believe in him, and support him, and help him persevere, and follow the light that was sent down with him; these are the successful.?

                    The Quran is the Final Laws.

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                      Al_Araf
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                      salam belh.

                      That is a Slam Dunk Lie from Saten

                      why are you listening to satan's lies?

                      messenger prophet whom they find written for them in the Torah and the Injeel

                      you cited a verse which uses the torah and injeel as the authority.
                      what kind of confused self contradicting person are you?

                      you cite a verse that says the torah and injeel are the authority, to oppose my claim, that the torah and injeel are authorities?
                      what is your major malfunction?

                      allah is the lawgiver.

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                        Al_Araf
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                        salam samia.

                        They ban themselves by disrespecting the forum rules.

                        a moderator told me misleading people is disrespecting the forum rules.

                        you posted

                        The root is Ha Meem Nuun

                        that post misled all the forum members. inshallah you tell the truth and you are not a liar.
                        did you ban yourself for violating the forum rules?

                        allah separates falsehood from the truth.

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                          mmkhan
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                          Salaaman Brother Hammad.,

                          The Quran is the Final Laws.

                          I agree with you completely inshaAllah. In addition, when Allah said


                          1689 for one Day We shall raise up within every community a witness against them from among themselves. And thee have We brought forth to bear witness regarding those, inasmuch as We have bestowed from on high upon thee, step by step, this divine writ, to make everything clear, and to provide guidance and grace and a glad tiding unto all who have surrendered themselves to God.

                          (1689)

                          And when nothing is left out of the book, then why we need other books for?


                          638 although there is no beast that walks on earth and no bird that flies on its two wings which is not creature like yourselves no single thing have We neglected in Our decree. And once again Unto their Sustainer shall they be gathered.

                          (63

                          And it is correct that Torah was also having guidance and noor for the mankind, but we don't see it in the present Torah, cause they hide the maximum out of it.


                          691 For, no true understanding of God have they when they say, "Never has God revealed anything unto man." Say "Who has bestowed from on high the divine writ which Moses brought unto men as a light and a guidance, which you treat as leaves of paper, making a show of them the while you conceal much - although you have been taught what neither you nor your forefathers had ever known?" Say "God!" - and then leave them to play at their vain talk.

                          (691)

                          But still we don't have worry about the guidance of Prophet Musa (AS) and Prophet Isa (AS). They were all given the same as us.


                          688 Such is God's guidance He guides therewith whomever He wills of His servants. And had they ascribed divinity to aught beside Him-in vain, indeed, would have been all that they ever did

                          (68

                          689 it was to them that We vouchsafed revelation, and sound judgment, and prophethood. And now, although the unbelievers may choose to deny these truths, We have entrusted them to people who will never refuse to acknowledge them-

                          (689)

                          In 689 it clearly shows that "aatainaaHUM" is plural and "alKitaaba" is singular. A Common Book for all.

                          This is how I understand, Allah knows best.

                          May Allah open our hearts for the guidance pr

                          Khan

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                            Al_Araf
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                            salam belh and mmkhan.

                            both of you claim

                            The Quran is the Final Laws

                            there is no verse of the quran that says "quran is the final laws"

                            mmkhan you say

                            nothing is left out of the book

                            there is no verse of the quran that says "nothing is left out of the book"

                            we don't see it in the present Torah, cause they hide the maximum out of it

                            there is no verse of the quran that says "the present torah does not have the nur and guidance"

                            They were all given the same as us.

                            there is no verse in the quran that says "they were given the same as us"

                            did shaitan whisper this in your ears?
                            did you add these words to the quran?

                            allah separates falsehood from the truth.

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                              Roshan
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                              salam jasmin.

                              please show some respect for the opinions of the men. to claim the men are not serious is disrespectful to the men.
                              you cannot set aside the men's opinion by claiming men are not serious.

                              men are required to obey allah, and if allah says something is persmissible for men, a mans right, men will protect
                              their rights, even if women try and deprive men of their rights.

                              how can a woman display unhappiness with what allah has instituted?

                              the ultimate love, is the love of allah, and allah's love for mankind. should we be unhappy that allah loves others as
                              well? no that would be wrong.

                              allah has a justice in the system he created. a wife, first has an intimate relationship with her husband. then the wife
                              has an even more intimate relationship with her children. as a result, a wife has an intimate relationship with more than
                              one person, the husband and the children. the husband has an intimate relationship with the wife, and not an intimate
                              realtionship with the children. justice and fairness dictate, that if a wife can have more than one intimate relationship
                              then a husband must also have the same, more than one intimate relationship. anything else would be unjust.

                              i use the term intimate, to describe the fact that a child grows inside a wife's body, and a child does not grow inside
                              a husbands body.

                              allah is justice.

                              Peace

                              YOU Allah has instituted polygamy - no proof.

                              YOU It is unfair for women to complain about the above (but no proof provided). In fact polygamy (no proof provided) is man's gift because he cannot get pregnant!

                              Oh dear.

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                                Al_Araf
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                                salam roshan. before you post you should check the quran in your hand.

                                YOU Allah has instituted polygamy - no proof.

                                if you spoke english better, you would know multiple wives is not polygamy. it is polygyny. mistake number one.

                                if you had actually read the quran, you would have seen the word "azwaajan" or wives, plural. allah speaks of that which he has established for mankind. allah has spoken of azwajan, allah has not stated azwajan as fawahish, makruh, or haram. allah has stated in the quran that the messengers had azwajan.

                                if you do not read the quran you will not see the proof.

                                allah is the one who proves.

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                                  Samia
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                                  salam samia.
                                  a moderator told me misleading people is disrespecting the forum rules.

                                  you posted
                                  that post misled all the forum members. inshallah you tell the truth and you are not a liar.
                                  did you ban yourself for violating the forum rules?

                                  allah separates falsehood from the truth.

                                  How about a deal?

                                  • If I fail to provide proof of this root ( ) for the verb I step down as moderator and you have your peace of mind.
                                  • If I provide the proof, from at least one classical Arabic dictionary, you change your name from Chapter 7 to Chapter 63.
                                    How about that?
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                                    belH
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                                    • If I provide the proof, from at least one classical Arabic dictionary, you change your name from Chapter 7 to Chapter 63.
                                      How about that?

                                    I wish you can provide the proof, so He can change his name rotfl

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                                      unknownuser
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                                      How about a deal?

                                      • If I fail to provide proof of this root ( ) for the verb I step down as moderator and you have your peace of mind.
                                      • If I provide the proof, from at least one classical Arabic dictionary, you change your name from Chapter 7 to Chapter 63.
                                        How about that?

                                      rotfl

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                                        belH
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                                        if you spoke english better

                                        How about if you spoke Truth Better you would understand the Quran?

                                        Quran is the Final Light for Man Kind; it is for Jews to understand That the Christ came, and He was Jesus. and for the Christian to Know that Jesus is not God nor the Son of God; and it shows the Final Laws of God, which are much easier than what was prescribed in Torah, as God shows 7-157. Say the Truth so you can see it.

                                        Al...what is your problem? you need to stop manipulating the Quran, or otherwise, I will not feel sorry for you if you get kicked out from the forum.

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                                          belH
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                                          rotfl

                                          I do not know why Samia is taking so long to provide the proof? oh...maybe she is waiting for Al to accept her Challenge rotfl
                                          Come on Al, do not be afraid from a Woman...you the Man yes

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