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salam siki. no akhi that translation is a complete mistake.
the arabic word for supersede is "alagh" and supersedes is "yalghi" neither alagh or yalghi are in that sura.
54 wanzalna alayka alkitab balhaq musadiqa lama bayn yadyh min alkitab. this translates to sent upon you is the book of truth confirming that before of the book.
the word musadiqa means confirming. it does not mean superseding. the word kitab means book. it does not mean scripture. there is mistake after mistake. i cannot agree with the above.
therefore 54 is saying the kitab given to muhamad confirms the kitab given to musa, daud, and isa.
allah is the knower.
peace al araf
thanks for this comment. i have been wondering if the quran confirms or supersedes or both the previous scriptures.
now if the correct rendering would only be that it confirms, then whatever is in the quran must be found in the previous scriptures (e.g. meat of pig is forbidden, etc.) & that whatever is not in the quran must not be found in the other scriptures (e.g. Lot sleeping with his daughters, the "story" of Samson & Delilah, etc.).
it could be that the translation relating to "supersedes" is a derivation of "confirms". it could be that since the quran has everything that is in the previous scriptures, then following it (viz. supersedes) is following what is written in the previous scriptures.
God knows best.
salamun alaykum everyone...
ramon jedi O0
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salam ramon. you state
it could be that the translation relating to "supersedes" is a derivation of "confirms". it could be that since the quran has everything that is in the previous scriptures, then following it (viz. supersedes) is following what is written in the previous scriptures.
allah knows the words alagh and yalghi. allah chose not to use the words alagh and yalghi, obviously because he does not wish to state anything is superseded. musadiq and yalghi are two different words. they convey two different meanings. allah could have said the kitab is musadiq and yalghi, he chose not to say that. for you to try and change musadiq into yalghi would require that you have the power of allah, the position of allah to make that change. you are not allah, you are not associated with allah, you are not permitted to make that change.
if what you find is not what your forefathers believe, change what you believe. what if your forefathers were on the wrong path?
allah is the teacher.
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Peace all
I would like to clarify why I'm arguing about this issue (Pylogamy).
I know from Quran that God have clarified that Man is allowed to Marry four women (taking into consideration all the conditions).
But Sadly, many Quran Aloners are arguing against it, and trying to ignore the Facts that Most of Prophets had done it.
Thus, I'm trying to show that Psychologically Man is capable of marring four women; nevertheless, I'm not promoting nor encouraging Polygamy to Men or Myself, after all, Polygamy is not ordered upon Men to do (obligatory), but a choice if they can fulfill its conditions.I voted yes, taking into consideration my understanding of Man Love to Woman
Male is to care for the Female (fulfill her psychological and bodily needs) and provide protection to here and her kids (prevent the psychological and bodily harms).
Please be aware that many Males will be Chickened out from replying in writing &.
"Their wives will slice them if they found out about their Inner Opinion rotfl
Peace
thank you for sharing the truth sun completely agree
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Peace all
peace al araf
thanks for this comment. i have been wondering if the quran confirms or supersedes or both the previous scriptures.
Brother, ask Al Araf about 7-157, which clearly shows that the Quran Laws are meant to remove the burden and the shackles that are upon the Jews, which God put upon them in Torah. One of this is The Sabbath (Saturday), in which Fishing is forbidden.
thank you for sharing the truth sun completely agree
You welcome
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salam belalh. you make jokes about misleading people. this post of yours is a lie about the quran, and ample justification for a one week ban.
Brother, ask Al Araf about 7-157, which clearly shows that the Quran Laws are meant to remove the burden and the shackles that are upon the Jews, which God put upon them in Torah. One of this is The Sabbath (Saturday), in which Fishing is forbidden.
i have two words to say to you. you have added words to the quran. adding words to the quran is shirk.
PROVE IT.
allah separates falsehood from the truth.
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salam belalh. you make jokes about misleading people. this post of yours is a lie about the quran, and ample justification for a one week ban.
i have two words to say to you. you have added words to the quran. adding words to the quran is shirk.
PROVE IT.
allah separates falsehood from the truth.
7-163, 2-65, 4-145 proves that God put many laws upon Jews in Saturday.
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salam belalh. your response is either wilfully deceitful and an attempt to mislead, symptom of a mental illness, or just plain jahiliyya.
let me post once again the claim of yours on which you are being challenged, since you apparently lack the intellect to understand when told once. matter of fact let me post it three times so there is no mistake in what your eyes see. you claimed
Brother, ask Al Araf about 7-157, which clearly shows that the Quran Laws are meant to remove the burden and the shackles that are upon the Jews, which God put upon them in Torah. One of this is The Sabbath (Saturday), in which Fishing is forbidden.
Brother, ask Al Araf about 7-157, which clearly shows that the Quran Laws are meant to remove the burden and the shackles that are upon the Jews, which God put upon them in Torah. One of this is The Sabbath (Saturday), in which Fishing is forbidden.
Brother, ask Al Araf about 7-157, which clearly shows that the Quran Laws are meant to remove the burden and the shackles that are upon the Jews, which God put upon them in Torah. One of this is The Sabbath (Saturday), in which Fishing is forbidden.
do you understand the question now? you claim 7157 says "the burden and the shackles upon the jews, which god put on them in the torah, one of them is the sabbath in which fishing is forbidden is removed" by quran law.
the issue is 7157 and your translation of 7157. do you understand im talking about 7157, you had better understand because you said 7157.
where in 7157 does it say "the burden and the shackles upon the jews, which god put on them in the torah, one of them is the sabbath in which fishing is forbidden is removed" oh forger of lies against allah and the quran?
allah separates falsehood from the truth.
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i have a question for the men, and try to clear you minds from all beleifs for a moment, if it was legal and accepted by society as a norm would men love more then one and marry ??
The answer is
If you have a garden full of roses will you love one and discard others or group
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D awwwwwwwwwww well thats why you find a true beleiver as she will appreciate the human not material.......
Yeah, but... how does she eat, get clothed and have a roof over her head?
Oh and, in this country... there are some males who have four wives and get financed by the government (house and all). Welfare state, UK.
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Yeah, but... how does she eat, get clothed and have a roof over her head?
thats a very good question............ i dont know how will she ever survive.............
are you serious,if you are then i suggest nobody get married, until you become filthy rich, by then you will be old and wrinkly and then we will die and evetually your love, you will meet in heaven if we get there....
any girl who wants a guy simply for his money then she is crazy and not a true beleiver, and any guy who thinks that he has to have a loads of money then he is just as crazy and not a true beleiver, people have been living for thousands of years and have not been as fortunate as we are today....they seem to have gotten married
oh by the way i heard this news just recently, that the male species of humans is becoming extinct, it seems they are turning female.......... rotfl something about the water system and hormones mixing or something like that rotfl rotfl -
oh by the way i heard this news just recently, that the male species of humans is becoming extinct, it seems they are turning female.......... rotfl something about the water system and hormones mixing or something like that rotfl rotfl
Poor ladies where they will go then '(
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thats a very good question............ i dont know how will she ever survive.............
are you serious,if you are then i suggest nobody get married, until you become filthy rich, by then you will be old and wrinkly and then we will die and evetually your love, you will meet in heaven if we get there....
any girl who wants a guy simply for his money then she is crazy and not a true beleiver, and any guy who thinks that he has to have a loads of money then he is just as crazy and not a true beleiver, people have been living for thousands of years and have not been as fortunate as we are today....they seem to have gotten married
oh by the way i heard this news just recently, that the male species of humans is becoming extinct, it seems they are turning female.......... rotfl something about the water system and hormones mixing or something like that rotfl rotflI understand people were richer in the past.
Oh and not just the water, but soy ingredients in baby formula, and well... all synthetic products.
I'd prefer a woman who was 100% pro-organic consumption. Unfortunately, I haven't noticed many of those... the expenses required to live such a life, include more than just money.
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if what you find is not what your forefathers believe, change what you believe. what if your forefathers were on the wrong path?
peace al araf,
clarification for the above please...
and also, there are verses in the previous scriptures (i have mentioned very, very few above) that can't be confirmed in the final scripture. should i take that as lawful/valid as the verses that can be found in the quran even if these are not in the quran.
another example the previous scriptures talked about abraham circumcising himself & his "nation". we cannot find this in the quran. if one is to confirm the information of another, the former must have the information of what is needed to be confirmed among the latter. the quran does not have this circumcision hadith. so do we or do we not give credence to circumcision?
my point is since the quran confirms the previous scriptures, it must contain "everything" that is in the previous scriptures. it means that it contains ALL that is in the previous scriptures. following quran alone is following the previous scriptures & this saves you from the tedious comparative study of scripture.
may allah forgive me if i'm wrong & may he increase our knowledge.
thanks for the prompt reply.
peace all.
ramon
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peace al araf,
clarification for the above please...
and also, there are verses in the previous scriptures (i have mentioned very, very few above) that can't be confirmed in the final scripture. should i take that as lawful/valid as the verses that can be found in the quran even if these are not in the quran.
another example the previous scriptures talked about abraham circumcising himself & his "nation". we cannot find this in the quran. if one is to confirm the information of another, the former must have the information of what is needed to be confirmed among the latter. the quran does not have this circumcision hadith. so do we or do we not give credence to circumcision?
my point is since the quran confirms the previous scriptures, it must contain "everything" that is in the previous scriptures. it means that it contains ALL that is in the previous scriptures. following quran alone is following the previous scriptures & this saves you from the tedious comparative study of scripture.
may allah forgive me if i'm wrong & may he increase our knowledge.
thanks for the prompt reply.
peace all.
ramon
I definitely agree with all what you have written above, and i guess Al Arf's point of view on previous scriptures is wrong.
siki
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Yeah, but... how does she eat, get clothed and have a roof over her head?
That's why you have to find a rich woman to marry, like the Prophet did sun