what is sabath?
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Allhumdillah laugh
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salam rami. allah did not close the door. if allah did not close the door, we cannot close the door.
yes, the circumcision of abraham is a mark of a believer and fard i am circumcised. read the torah in hebrew to understand what stoning to death is prescribed for, it is not the same as what is prescribed for public acts of sex in the quran, two different issues. beard for men is fard, i have a beard. sacrificing animals by cutting the throat and jugular is also from the torah. there are many, many practices that muslims do, that are from the torah.
i have heard belalh repeat this superstition and fairy tale of jesus fishing on the sabbath by the sea and shackles. i heard another story from a preacher who claimed that the prophet prayed to ease the burden of muslims and allah then reduced the number of prayers from three hundred a day down to five. these ignorant foolish tales spread by illiterate ignorant preachers have deluded generations of muslims. hadith worship is another one of their ignorant tricks.
they have mixed up two hadith of isa. the first hadith is the one about a sahaba of isa who plucked a ear of corn to eat on the sabbath because he was hungry. the ignorant rabbis chastised isa, saying your followers are violating the sabbath. the rabbis were trying to protect their moneymaking business as police of the torah which they knew, and the illiterate people did not. they made up saturday as a sabbath to create a job for themselves. jesus told them, the sabbath is made for man, man is not made for the sabbath, did not david eat the shewbread on the sabbath in the temple when he was hungry. isa was threatening the rabbis that the ordinary person will be eating the special food of the rabbis, which frightened the rabbis.
the second hadith of isa relates to fish as food. the torah prohibits eating any carnivore, as does the quran. the rabbis then prohibited eating fish because all fish are carnivorous, one fish eats another. isa explained that fish with scales are an exception to the rule against eating carnivorous things, the quran says the same thing, and therefore the fish were turned into loaves of bread. in other words the fish were made lawful food for believers.
somehow the ignorant preachers got the two stories mixed up and have been preaching the lies they forged for a very long time.
allah is the teacher.
Ok so you are mixing Torah and Quran. In the Torah, there is feast(hag) times. Is this the Hag the Quran talks about? So do we use the hebrew calendar. In the Torah it is prohibited to add to the Torah. How can you explain the addition of the Quran? In the Torah, camels are forbidden but allowed in the Quran. In the Torah you can't remarry ur wife after divorce but in the Quran you can do it twice. The Torah allows usury on gentiles, the Quran declares war on it. The kosher laws are entirely different etc etc. So u really can't follow both. You have to choose one. I thought of this idea before but it didn't work.
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salam rami. you thought of the idea and it did not work. there is a reason why it did not work.
the reason is a misunderstanding of the meanings of the words in hebrew, or, a misunderstanding of the words in arabic.
allah does not make mistakes, we make mistakes.
i saw your post regarding saturday. akhi those sources are wrong. you will say how can they be wrong they are authorities, let me show you.
The English names for the days of the week derive from the Anglo-Saxon deities stemming from the native paganism of the Anglo-Saxons. An exception to this is Saturday, which takes its name from the Roman deity Saturn. To varying extents, most regions with dominant Germanic languages practise a similar naming convention, with most of their weekdays named for their native Germanic deities.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_the_week
wikipedia is correct, saturday is named after the planet saturn, and their god saturn, their god of agriculture.
Saturn (Latin Saturnus) was a major Roman god of agriculture and harvest. In medieval times he was known as the Roman god of agriculture, justice and strength; he held a sickle in his left hand and a bundle of wheat in his right... Saturn is the namesake of Saturday (dies Saturni), the only day of the week to retain its Roman name in English.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_(mythology)
i reiterate, the sabbath, derives from the word for the number seven. the seventh day, not saturday.
allah is the truth.
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salam rami. you thought of the idea and it did not work. there is a reason why it did not work.
the reason is a misunderstanding of the meanings of the words in hebrew, or, a misunderstanding of the words in arabic.
allah does not make mistakes, we make mistakes.
Give examples please.
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salam rami. read al baqara 2213.
to paraphrase this ayat it says allah sent a book and instead of agreeing with each other men used the book to differ in envy. for this reason allah will guide those who believe to the truth, about what these people claim, when they say, it is different.
i believe this ayat is telling us, that people who claim the torah and quran are different, are doing so out of envy. allah sent the book to clarify that there is no difference. because men will still insist on claiming it is different, allah will guide only those who believe in the truth.
allah is the best of those who teach
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salam rami. read al baqara 2213.
to paraphrase this ayat it says allah sent a book and instead of agreeing with each other men used the book to differ in envy. for this reason allah will guide those who believe to the truth, about what these people claim, when they say, it is different.
i believe this ayat is telling us, that people who claim the torah and quran are different, are doing so out of envy. allah sent the book to clarify that there is no difference. because men will still insist on claiming it is different, allah will guide only those who believe in the truth.
allah is the best of those who teach
Interesting. Do you want to say that the Quran and the Torah are similar? I hoped so. This would have made things much easier. Or do you say they complete each other and thats why the God in the Quran says I have completed your religion?
Peace.
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salam rami. allah evolved man from a lithic people who knew only stones, to the men of today who use computers. as allah says he raises man by stages, the first stage is the torah, the second stage is the zabur, the third stage is the injeel, the fourth stage which completes the deen is the quran.
there is a deep connection between the torah and the quran. you can say similar if you like. the only way to see the deep connection is in the original language of the writing. go back into ancient phoenician, aramaic, and hebrew. find the words, understand their meaning and usages, then the torah, zabur, injeel, and quran come alive with a rich complicated finely nuanced accurate almost magical quality of precision. the more you understand this, the further the detail of the precision becomes obvious, constantly training each neuron in the brain to higher and higher performance.
allah is the one who raises man by stages.
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salam rami. allah evolved man from a lithic people who knew only stones, to the men of today who use computers. as allah says he raises man by stages, the first stage is the torah, the second stage is the zabur, the third stage is the injeel, the fourth stage which completes the deen is the quran.
there is a deep connection between the torah and the quran. you can say similar if you like. the only way to see the deep connection is in the original language of the writing. go back into ancient phoenician, aramaic, and hebrew. find the words, understand their meaning and usages, then the torah, zabur, injeel, and quran come alive with a rich complicated finely nuanced accurate almost magical quality of precision. the more you understand this, the further the detail of the precision becomes obvious, constantly training each neuron in the brain to higher and higher performance.
allah is the one who raises man by stages.
How can I go back to these ancient languages if the Torah is in plain hebrew. If it is not how did they translate it? Lets take for example the punishment rajm for adultery in the Torah? Do you have any alternative explanation? Can it mean exile? Give me examples of things we thought is a difference but is actually the similarity and we 'out of envy' created these differences by changing up the language. Can this be even possible?
Peace.
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salam rami. have faith in allah. when allah tells you that wherein which you differ is out of envy, accept it. do not argue with allah.
allah is the truth.
I am not arguing with Allah. It is the people of the book are the ones arguing with me! This wont change tha fact that many Quranic stories are found the Midrash and the Christian apocrypha. How can you answer that?
Peace.
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salam rami. you are not responsible for what others believe, or where the truth is written.
you will be questioned on the day of judgment as to what you believe, and your actions, not as to what others believe, and their actions.
as long as you are on the right path, the rest is irrelevant.
allah is the best of those who guide.