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TheoMeter or SectoMeter for Muslims (45 Questions)

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    IronSky
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    Peace to all,

    I really liked the test Edip, good job and thank you for all your work, it is a little confusing in some areas but I scored an 87%, so does this mean im mostly sect free?

    Kurt

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      Samia
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      Thanks for the quiz, Edip

      While answering, I had a problem with questions 6, 14, 25, 35 and 39

      6 You seem to twist the answer to (C) so that code 19 is included. I skipped this question because I would have put C (my only option) without the code.

      14 Although I correctly replied, I do not think we are asked to (bear witness) or testify) that there's no God but God. God states that He is the Lord of all people. Who are we testifying to? Who is uninformed and needs this information? Why are we obliged to testify to this uninformed person?

      25 The question Is polygamy with previously unmarried women allowed? I knew you wanted the answer (No) and I put (Yes). What about a non wed woman with a child? I think this is what's meant by (yateem) in this verse (well, yateem is a fatherless child and a child whose father/mother is dead), but I believe that a child of unknown father is much more vulnerable than an orphan, and it's this child that needs a father and it's the only thing he/she needs, even if he/she has a lot of wealth. So, the command of (marrying the singles) could only be waived under very dire circusatances (of which I do not thik an orphan is one). An orphan, at worst, is poor, and even then they are not poorer than the other children of poor families or of a disabled bread winner.

      35 About prohibited food If a sheep is being operated on and by mistake its throat was cut, is this a carcas? I think that any animal not killed for the purpose of being eaten is not lawful, and any animal killed for the purpose of being eaten is lawfull, no matter how it was killed. (and I got this one wrong, of course).

      39 Although I got this one right, I have a problem with the question (After following the advice of Moses, did Muhammad, bargain with God about the number of prayers, lowering down from the impossible-to-observe 50 times a day to 5 times a day?). Is the question based on the assumption that Muhammad DID meet Moses? Sayingg "After following the advice of Moses" indicates that this story is true.

      But the question I got wrong by misreading/misunderstanding the question was number one. So I scored 39 (87%).

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        unknownuser
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        Salaams,

        Well i am not a Muslim ( a five timer e.t.c ) so i suppose i can't do well at it, but will carry on trying to be a muslim ( a peace loving individual) as much as i possibly can!

        and wait until there is such a TheoMeter.

        hypno

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          Joe_Betik
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          salaam edip,

          i had a look at the quiz and decided not to participate in it.

          my misfortune was i could not find my answers in the multiple choices you provided. the point is, you provided the questions and multiple choice answers that you want people to choose from, but most of the answers provided did not merit my choosing.

          so, my apologies, and wishing you all the best.

          peace.

          mohammed noh

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            Edip_Yuksel
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            Thanks for the quiz, Edip
            While answering, I had a problem with questions 6, 14, 25, 35 and 39

            Thank you Samia for taking the Quiz and giving feedback.

            6 You seem to twist the answer to (C) so that code 19 is included. I skipped this question because I would have put C (my only option) without the code.

            Perhaps you are right. Then, can you help me modify the answers so that people like you could have been accommodated with another wrong answer !?

            14 Although I correctly replied, I do not think we are asked to (bear witness) or testify) that there's no God but God. God states that He is the Lord of all people. Who are we testifying to? Who is uninformed and needs this information? Why are we obliged to testify to this uninformed person?

            Please read verse 318. The witnessing is primarily personal, intellectual.

            25 The question Is polygamy with previously unmarried women allowed? I knew you wanted the answer (No) and I put (Yes). What about a non wed woman with a child? I think this is what's meant by (yateem) in this verse (well, yateem is a fatherless child and a child whose father/mother is dead), but I believe that a child of unknown father is much more vulnerable than an orphan, and it's this child that needs a father and it's the only thing he/she needs, even if he/she has a lot of wealth. So, the command of (marrying the singles) could only be waived under very dire circusatances (of which I do not thik an orphan is one). An orphan, at worst, is poor, and even then they are not poorer than the other children of poor families or of a disabled bread winner.

            Interesting... I need to look at the question...

            35 About prohibited food If a sheep is being operated on and by mistake its throat was cut, is this a carcas? I think that any animal not killed for the purpose of being eaten is not lawful, and any animal killed for the purpose of being eaten is lawfull, no matter how it was killed. (and I got this one wrong, of course).

            Well, I respect your understanding. Personally, I looked at it as a matter of health. A dead animal in the middle of the forest is risk to health.

            39 Although I got this one right, I have a problem with the question (After following the advice of Moses, did Muhammad, bargain with God about the number of prayers, lowering down from the impossible-to-observe 50 times a day to 5 times a day?). Is the question based on the assumption that Muhammad DID meet Moses? Sayingg "After following the advice of Moses" indicates that this story is true.

            Very good point. I will reword the question and start it with "allegedly".

            But the question I got wrong by misreading/misunderstanding the question was number one. So I scored 39 (87%).

            That is better than Sunnies and Shiites combined But, you need to work on counting your fingers correctly. You would at least get 40 of them correctly, which would put you at 90%)

            You gat a B+, but because of your constructive criticism, you are going to get an A sun

            Peace,
            Edip

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              Edip_Yuksel
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              Salaams,
              Well i am not a Muslim ( a five timer e.t.c ) so i suppose i can't do well at it, but will carry on trying to be a muslim (a peace loving individual) as much as i possibly can! and wait until there is such a TheoMeter.
              hypno

              Salaams,

              Then, you have a chance of even getting 100% on the test. Being a "five timer, e.t.c" usually works against the the takers of this test.

              You see, Samia got very high scores. If it were not the residues of her old religious/sectarian upbringing she could easily get all right. As I told her, if she makes peace with numbers (both intellectually and emotionally), then she would not miss at least one of them.

              So, go and take it and let us know what score you got.

              PS I am going to make a test for Jews and Christians too.

              Peace,
              Edip

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                Edip_Yuksel
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                salaam edip,
                i had a look at the quiz and decided not to participate in it.
                my misfortune was i could not find my answers in the multiple choices you provided. the point is, you provided the questions and multiple choice answers that you want people to choose from, but most of the answers provided did not merit my choosing.
                so, my apologies, and wishing you all the best.
                peace.
                mohammed noh

                Dear Mohammed

                Perhaps your misfortune had started running the odometer long time before you met the theometer. But, I do not believe that you are serious. If you are serious, then give us examples of what answer choices were missing?

                Can you gives us several examples please? Otherwise, you will be classified among those who are called R & Z by the Q.

                Edip

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                  belH
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                  Peace all
                  Before taking the quiz, I thought I would score below 50% due to the differences between most of us and 19ers, but surprisingly I scored 84% muscle
                  Thank you Edip for not putting 9-128 & 129 issue in your quiz.
                  peace

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                    Joe_Betik
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                    salaam edip,

                    i beg your pardon, but what is 'odometer'?

                    btw, i have no interest in your labelling. really. it matters not. and in the Qur'an, of which you know very well, we are warned against giving labels to people. what does r&z stand for anyway?

                    since you asked me to provide examples, i took the liberty of c&p-ing the first 10 questions.

                    i hope you understand my misfortune.

                    peace

                    mohammed noh


                    1. According to the Quran, which one of these is not and cannot be idolized by people? (1 point)

                    Reasoning (Aql)
                    Prophet Muhammad
                    Crowds or peers
                    Ancestors or children
                    Desires or Wishful thinking (Hawa)

                    mn all. no choice. some people, without realizing, idolize their minds, and intelligence, coming up with understandings, ideas and theories, based strictly on their formal education. little do they realize that their mental capabilities are limited by their formal education. for example, the very idea of asking God to clarify the meaning of some words and phrases in the Qur'an is deemed illogical by formal education. but the fact remains; that was how 'ahl kitab' (those in the familiar of the message) received the messages - (directly, or indirectly) from God. it is an attitude.

                    1. Which one of these is a true statement? (1 point)

                    The Quran is not sufficient to guide us; in addition we need Hadith and Sunna.
                    The Quran is not sufficient to guide us; we need Hadith, Sunna and follow the teaching of a Shiite sect.
                    The Quran is sufficient to guide us when we understand and follow it through the light of reason.
                    The Quran is not sufficient to guide us; we need Hadith, Sunna, follow the teaching of a sect and join a religious order.
                    The Quran is not sufficient to guide us; we need Hadith, Sunna and follow the teaching of a Sunni sect.

                    mn the Qur'an is the guide received by muhammad the 'nabiy'. it was for him and the people of his era, and also after him. if during the time of muhammad the 'nabiy' someone in the north pole did not hear the message brought by him, was that person considered to be a non-believer? what was his status before God? any suggestion?

                    1. Which one of these hadiths narrated by Bukhari, Muslim and other "authentic" hadith books, do you think are fabricated (1 point)

                    Muhammad was illiterate until he died.
                    Muhammad married Aisha at age 54 while she was only 9 or 13 years-old.
                    Muhammad dispatched a gang of fighters (sariyya) to kill a woman poet secretly during night in her home, for criticizing him publicly through her poems.
                    Muhammad slaughtered 400 to 900 Jews belonging to Ben Qurayza for violating the treaty.
                    All of the above.

                    mn i don't read 'hadiths' other than the Qur'an. i don't know. what choice do i have here?

                    1. Which one of these laws or rules does not exist in the Quran? (1 point)

                    Stone the married adulterers to death
                    Do not play guitar
                    Men should not wear silk and gold
                    Men are superior to women
                    All of the above

                    mn are the 4 rules in effect anywhere?

                    1. The Quran instructs us to follow the messengers. Following the messenger means (1 point)

                    Follow Muhammad.
                    Follow Hadith and Sunna; Buhari, Muslim, Ibn Hanbal, etc.
                    Follow hadith, sunna, consensus of sahaba, ijtihad of imams and fatwas of ulama.
                    Follow the message he was sent with, which was Quran alone.
                    Follow his Ahl-i Bayt.

                    mn all messengers bring messages of good news and warnings, but the 'muhammad' in each and everyone of us is the one to follow, since 'ati/ullah wa ati/urrasool'. i don't have to follow muhammad the 'nabiy' though, or else i would be marrying a 40 year old widow by the age of 25, among others. but i am trying to follow muhammad the 'rasool' though, the one in him, in you and in me. regarding the 'rusool' before me, they provide great examples and subjects for ponderment, leads to follow.

                    1. The Quran is God's word, because (1 point)

                    The Quranic signs (aya) do not have internal contradiction nor does it contradict the signs in nature. Besides, it is numerically coded book with an extraordinary mathematical structure integrated with its composition and Arabic language.
                    The moral teaching of the Quran is the best for individual and humanity.
                    I do not need to have a reason. Reason is not reliable. I have faith in the Quran.
                    There are verses of the Quran stating that it is God's word.
                    The Quran is a literary miracle. None can bring a sura like it surpassing its literary qualities.

                    mn where is this question coming from. the Qur'an was 'uttered' by muhammad the 'nabiy' not sent down in a book form or 'suhoof'. on the other hand, God has been sending people signs or signals (ayat), but most are oblivious.

                    1. Which one of the following is correct for Muhammad (1 point)

                    Muhammad was final messenger and prophet.
                    Muhammad had the highest rank above all humans.
                    Muhammad demonstrated many miracles such as splitting the moon, healing the sick, and crippling a child
                    All of the above?
                    Muhammad was a human messenger like other messengers.

                    mn read my posts regarding muhammad.

                    1. In what year he Bukhari started collecting hadith for his hadith collection known as the Sahih Bukhari, the most trusted Sunni hadith collection? (1 point)

                    During the life of Muhammad in Medina
                    Ten years after Muhammad's death.
                    130 years after Muhammad's death.
                    200 years after Muhammad's death
                    230 years after Muhammad's death.

                    mn again, i don't read 'hadith' other than the Qur'an. what do i know about those 'hadith'?

                    1. According to Bukhari himself, he collected the 7,275 hadith among the 700,000 hadiths he collected. If each hadith, together with its isnad (the chain of reporters) and sanad (the text that was attributed to Muhammad) took about half a book page, how many volumes of books with 500 pages would they take to record all those 700,000 hadith allegedly collected by Bukhari? (1 point)

                    7 volumes
                    10 volumes
                    70 volumes
                    100 volumes
                    700 volumes

                    mn ...

                    1. What are the last statements in the Farewell Sermon (Khutba al-Wada) which was reportedly witnessed by more than 100,000 sahaba, making it by far the most authentic hadith among the thousands of hadiths? (1 point)

                    I leave you the Quran, you should follow it.
                    I leave you Abu Bakr; you should follow him.
                    I leave you the Quran and Ahl-i Bayt (my family); you should follow them.
                    I leave you my sahaba; you may follow any of them.
                    I leave you the Quran and Sunna; you should follow both.

                    mn again, i don't read 'hadith' other than the Qur'an. do you think i should read this 'sermon' that you have mentioned?

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                      Layth
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                      Salam edip,

                      Nice job

                      I scored 100%, however, there is 1 questions that needs fixing as it is not correct.

                      1. Are there more dietary prohibitions besides pork, carcass, running blood, and animal dedicated to idolized names?

                      ? Yes
                      ? No (correct answer, your response)

                      The correct answer includes more prohibitions as per 53

                      53 Forbidden to you is that which is already dead, and the blood, and the meat of pig, and what was sacrificed to other than God, and that
                      which has been strangled, and that which has been beaten to death, and that which has fallen from a height, and that which has been gored, and
                      that which the wild animals have eaten from except what you managed to rescue, and what has been slaughtered on alters, and what you divide
                      by the arrows of chance. This is all vile. Today the rejecters have given up from your system, so do not fear them, but fear Me. Today I have
                      perfected your system for you, and completed My blessings upon you, and I have accepted submission as the system for you. So, whoever is forced
                      by severe hunger and not seeking sin, then God is Forgiving, Merciful.

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                        Samia
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                        This is anther question I got wrong, simply because I did not know the answer ( I answered C)
                        8. In what year has Bukhari started collecting hadith for his hadith collection known as the Sahih Bukhari, the most trusted Sunni hadith collection?
                        Is it necessary to know exactly when? Periods of time maybe better than specific number of years.
                        (And there's a typo he instead of has).

                        And in general, I tend to agree with Joe Betik knowing material about hadith should be negatively credited not positively, because the more you know hadith, the more probable that it taunts your understanding, just like the decision to remove two verses of the qur'aan If a hadith about them was not already known, why were these two veses specifically chosen?

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                          "...my lecture at Oxford University"

                          Explain that one.

                          I gave myself 42 out of 45.

                          The questionaire is extremely biased. And anyone can tell that the questioner got bored after Question 15.

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