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A question regarding 6:162

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    glorytothegracious
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    (Reformist Translation) 6162 Say, "My contact prayer, my devotion and offerings, my life, and my death, are all to God the Lord of the worlds."

    My question here is about "devotion and offerings". I see a lot of different translations of this...

    " my acts of worship"
    "my sacrifice"
    "my devotion"
    "my act of worship"

    "all my (other) acts and forms of devotion and worship"

    "my worship"
    "All my duties to the Divine System, the ways to discharge them, "
    "my Hajj (Pilgrimage) and sacrifice (together with the entire worship and servitude) "
    "my Nusuk (animal sacrifices)"
    "my worship (for example, pilgrimage and sacrifice)"
    "my rituals or methods of worship"
    "my worship practices, "
    "my devotions,"

    To sum it up in a simple way, I gather these words from the above translations Worship (or service?), sacrifice, devotion.

    I am currently using this translation
    6162 Say, "My commitments, my acts of servitude and sacrifices (not specifically animals, but general things, like wealth, possibly family who may threaten to disown someone because of his or her beliefs, etc) , my life, and my death, are all to God the Lord of the worlds."

    = Nun-Siin-Kaf = to lead a devout life, be pious, be godly, worship/serve God, sacrifice, slaughter an animal by way of sacrifice, act of worship/servitude, performers/observers of such acts, rite of devotion, to wash and purify, to apply oneself.

    Please share your thoughts and opinions.

    Peace

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      unknownuser
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      When the Quran, or any other book is translated from one language to another, parts of the message will be lost. A translation will only reflect parts of the message. If use translation you should use several translations and compare them with each other. Here is a website with several Quran translations

      www.quranix.com

      If you want to know the meanings of a verse in the Quran, in the best possible way, you must study each word in the verse, cross reference the words with the same words in other verses in the quran, extract the meaning a word from the context of the verse and also see if you can find the meaning of each word in Classical Arabic dictionaries. There are many tools on the internet for those who want to study the Quran.

      This website has tools for studying the Quran

      www.studyquran.com

      Many words in the Quran have been mistranslated. Below are some of the words that have been mistranslated.

      Ibadah From a quranic perspective, there is no such thing as worship or act of worship. Ibadah, a word which is commonly translated as worship, is a word which has been mistranslated.

      Deen Deen does not mean religion. Deen means "a way of life", a sosial system or Law.

      Hajj Hajj does not mean worship. Hajj means debate.

      Kufr Kufr does not mean disbeliever. Kufr means truth concealer.

      Jinn Jinn does not mean hidden creature. Jinn means nomadic tribes, gypsies, who live in deserts or forest, far away from cities. Mumin does not mean faithful muslim.

      Mumin Mumin means someone who has conviction in the laws of the Universe (both physical and non-physical laws). A momin also maintains peace and security on earth.

      Malaika Does not mean angels. It means controllers/forces of nature.

      Nafs Nafs does not mean soul. It means "self."

      Zakat Does not mean tax. It means nourishment (can be any item) that you give away willingly).

      Many other words in the Quran have also been mistranslated. Even words like Masjid, Qibla, Salat or Sawm have been mistranslated.

      The word which has been translated as offering/sacrifice in different translations of the Quran, is a word which probably has been mistranslated. The word sacrifice/offering reminds me of pagan rites in old religions. In some ancient religions people used to sacrifice animals to their imaginary and false gods. The concept of offering/sacrifice, in the Quran, most likely refers to sacrifice/offering yourself for a righteous cause or offering/sacrificing your wealth/resources, by giving it to the needy.

      And recite to them the news of Adam's two sons in truth. They had both made an offering, and it was accepted from one of them, and not accepted from the other. He said "I will kill you!"; he said "God only accepts from the righteous." The Monotheist Group 527

      In 527 we can see that the offering made by Cain was not accepted from him. As far as I know, the Quran does not tell us why the offering/sacrifice made by Cain was not accepted from him. But perhaps his offering was not accepted because he was a wrong doer.

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        uq
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        Peace Everyone,

        I can understand how frustrating it can be to find multiple renditions of the same word or sentence translated from the Quran to English. The disparity can seem curious.

        My personal advice for those who are very curious if you have the time, start a course in Arabic.

        You don't have to attend any institution, and you don't have to pay a penny. All it takes is discipline.

        You can simply teach yourself as I have. The process from beginner to advanced level, will take years. But it will be very gratifying in the end.

        There are many free resources available online; books (as pdfs), audiobooks, podcasts, videos, etc..

        Very, very worthwhile considering this.

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          mmkhan
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          Peace Everyone,

          I can understand how frustrating it can be to find multiple renditions of the same word or sentence translated from the Quran to English. The disparity can seem curious.

          My personal advice for those who are very curious if you have the time, start a course in Arabic.

          You don't have to attend any institution, and you don't have to pay a penny. All it takes is discipline.

          You can simply teach yourself as I have. The process from beginner to advanced level, will take years. But it will be very gratifying in the end.

          There are many free resources available online; books (as pdfs), audiobooks, podcasts, videos, etc..

          Very, very worthwhile considering this.

          Salaam,

          I totally agree with what is said above by brother uq handshake and also I would like to add that, self learning with taking Allah as our teacher is not comparable with any teacher or institute on the face of earth.

          May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
          mmKhan

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            Mazhar
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            You can simply teach yourself as I have. The process from beginner to advanced level, will take years. But it will be very gratifying in the end.

            Not such long time might be needed for learning the Arabic of Qur'aan only.

            Qur'aan is rendered facilitative to learn and comprehend

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