Virgin Birth of Isa
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?almaseeha AAeesa ibna maryama rasoola Allahi?
http//www.searchtruth.com/search.php?keyword=AAeesa+ibn&chapter=&translator=6&search=1&start=0&records_display=100&search_word=all
Whoa, hold on a second... You're saying that Jesus is NOT a descendant of Adam?! o How is this possible? All humans are children of Adam, including Maryam, Solomon, King David, Moses, Imraan, Joseph, Jacob, Isaac, Abraham, Noah, and all the other members of the human race. In other words, if Jesus was a HUMAN BEING, then he was a descendant of Adam, plain and simple... Where's your proof that he wasn't a human being? The Jewish prophecies regarding the mashiach, as well as the Gospel and Biblical accounts, all testify that Jesus was a descendant of David, making him a descendant of Adam... I don't know where you got this ideology from, but it's incorrect.
Peace,
Ahmad
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Whoa, hold on a second... You're saying that Jesus is NOT a descendant of Adam?! o
Yes. The same way Adam was human not of Adam
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That Jesus' example at God (is) as Adam's example, (He) created him from dust then He said to him "Be." So he became. The truth (is) from your Lord, so do not be from the doubting.How is this possible?
1921 He said "'Like that,' said your Lord; it is on Me easy?
Peace
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Peace,
Regarding Jesus being the Jewish Messiah
Isaiah 126 "And I will restore your judges as at first and your counsellors as in the beginning; afterwards you shall be called City of Righteousness, Faithful City." Some Jews interpret this to mean that the Sanhedrin will be re-established. (Isaiah 126) >(
Peace,
Rami
Just need to put it in right order otherwise it all there.
Check the origin of the prominent lawyers and judges in powerful countries and then emergence of the democracy there. )Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 24) ignore
hmm all leaders go to Israel before being elected like Obama and Nicolas Sarkozy.
The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 211-17) brickwall
That would mean no longer in secret like the way freemason do? -X
He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 111) via Solomon (1 Chronicles 228-10, 2 Chronicles 71 hmm
Descendents of Solomon look like the Ethiopian origin; don?t tell me its Obama. &
The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 112) hail
Like Bush and Tony Blair with the fear of God not to forget Obama. hail
He will come from Bethlehem (Micah 52) bravo
A Palestinian by birth? -\
Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 114) yay
Watch out all axis of evils elektro
Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 119) hmm
No more secret oaths to God by a selected elite God communicating via internet yay
He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 1110) )
Investors from all cultures and nations will invest in that Not Wall Street but Telaviv Stock market wow
All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 1112) group
And the rest of the world would rejoice. yay
Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25 rotfl
"Healthcare revolution? a technology capable of giving complete DNA read-outs at birth...
Illuminati are preparing to launch a much cheaper whole-genome service within two years. bravoThere will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25 rotfl
Plenty of GM food, DNA mapping to make ensure good health and avert death. Monsanto police
All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 2619) voodoo
Cloning breakthrough raises prospect of creating calves from supermarket beef and people from their graves. laugh
The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 5111) angel
Finally ;D
He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 527) angel
Only the messenger talking peace but not applying it just many jedi
Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 5213-535) >
Holocaust memorials everywhere. - rotfl
I pod, Black berry. rotfl
He will give you all the worthy desires of your heart (Psalms 374) whatever
The height of consumerism, all designer goods and fame and awards, mansions and ranches ...palm/Jumera beach ...nothing left out tempt
He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 513, Amos 913-15, Ezekiel 3629-30, Isaiah 116-9) angel
Dubai
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;D peace farida, amazing response. You noticed how it is possible to smash any event in the world to any text. But you did it pretty well. Jews were making fun of this and made a video about a Rabbi finding out that the Messiah turned out to be none other than the Rooster.
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgloCwEp1i8&feature=channel_page
Peace yay
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To continue the Virgin Mary myth,
I watched a video that talks about that Mary could be a hermaphrodite.
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBx1vTje2ro&feature=related
This virgin myth is found in other cultures, could it be that this Sunna of God was to send a Messiah born of a virgin then raise him?! Astrology is actually referred in the Quran as God swears by the position of the stars.
Note that also God granted a child to Abraham's wife who was actually sterile or menopaused(5140) and Zakaria's wife(340). It is actually impossible for a menopause to concieve unless you use IVF. This should not be confused with the phenemenon of delayed menopause in some Bedouin women.
http//www.springerlink.com/content/rqrw2471052j3779/Peace,
Rami
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Peace,
If Jesus was the Jewish mashiach, and if he was actually born of a 'virgin' woman, then there should be an account of it in the Tavrah, right? For example, the Tavrah outlines all of the factors and stipulations regarding the position of the mashiach and what he will do... Since Jesus is called "almasih" (the messiah) in the Reading, then he would have had to fulfill these stipulations, one of which is born of the union between a man and a woman. If he didn't do this, then he can't be the messiah, plain and simple. There's no mention in the Tavrah at all regarding the mashiach being born of a 'virgin' woman.
Now, based on the scripture, was the 'entire world' sent a messiah? NO. The mashiach was sent specifically to the Jews, the children of Israel. They were awaiting his arrival, and they had plenty of prophecies in place predicting his coming. So, why didn't any of the Jewish scriptures predict a virgin birth? Why do they enforce the strict doctrine that he would come from the lineage of King David (through Solomon) by way of his FATHER? Why isn't Maryam called a 'virgin' in the Reading? A key factor of this is the Christian deification of Jesus, which they justify with the alleged 'virgin birth'. However, the Reading clearly denounces the divinity of Jesus. So, if Jesus is not divine, then what was the significance of the virgin birth? What purpose did it serve? Why isn't it mentioned in the scriptures (other than the Biblical New Testament Gospels)?
Peace,
Ahmad
Peace all
Ahamed, you are a disbeliever of many well-established Quaranic verses that prove the Virgin birth of Jesus (beside disbelieving in 9-128 & 129). I do not know what to think about you...But I know that God will take care of people like you.Peace everybody
The following are what I used as proof for Jesus Virgin Birth
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(٦ (٧Behold! the angels said "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah. (45) "He shall speak to the people in childhood And in maturity and he shall be (of the company) of the righteous." (46) She said "O my Lord! how shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" He said "Even so Allah createth what He willeth; when He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it `Be', and it is! (3-47)
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O people of the Book! commit no excesses in your religion nor say of Allah aught but truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an Messenger of Allah and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit proceeding from Him so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not "Trinity" desist it will be better for you for Allah is One Allah glory be to him (for Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. (171) Christ disdaineth not to serve and worship Allah, nor do the angels, those nearest (to Allah) those who disdain His worship and are arrogant He will gather them all together unto Himself to (answer). (4-172)
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Then will Allah say "O Jesus, the son of Mary! recount my favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel. And behold! thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the Clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said `This is nothing but evident magic'. (5-110)
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Relate in the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place in the East. (16) She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them then We sent to her Our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects. (17) She said "I seek refuge from thee to (Allah) Most Gracious (come not near) if thou dost fear Allah." (1 He said "Nay, I am only a messenger from thy Lord (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son." (19) She said "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?" (20) He said "So (it will be) thy Lord saith
That is easy for Me and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us' it is a matter (so) decreed." (21) So she conceived him, and she retired with him to a remote place. (22) And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm-tree she cried (in her anguish) "Ah! would that I had died before this! Would that I had been a thing forgotten and out of sight!" (23) But (a voice) cried to her from beneath the (palm-free) "Grieve not! for thy Lord hath provided a rivulet beneath thee; (24) "And shake towards thyself the trunk of the palm-tree it will let fall fresh ripe dates upon thee. (25) "So eat and drink and cool (thine) eye. And if thou dost see any man sayI have vowed a fast to (Allah) Most Gracious, and this day will I enter into no talk with any human being.' " (26) At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). they said "O Mary! truly an amazing thing hast thou brought! (27) "O sister of Aaron! thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!" (2 But she pointed to the babe. They said "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?" (29) He said "I am indeed a servant of Allah He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet; (30) "And He hath made me Blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live; (31) "(He) hath made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable; (32) "So Peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"! (33) Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. (34) It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He determines a matter, He only says to it "Be", and it is. (19-35)(٠
And We made the son of Mary and his mother as a Sign We gave them both shelter on high ground, affording rest and security and furnished with springs. (23-50)
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And Mary the daughter of `Imran, who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into her (body) of Our spirit; and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and of His Revelations, and was one of the devout (Servants). (66-12)These are the decisive verses that God sent to tell Christian the truth about Jesus. If a six years old human listen to it, he will understand God?s Message.
Arnold, are you ignoring all the above decisive verses (well-established), and the ones that I mentioned before.
Until now you failed to provide a well-established verse to support your theory that Jesus had a Father.
Arnold, you are committing the worse Sin that God will not Forgive no matter what Good deeds you would do to compensate for. It is the Sin of saying what God did not say in the Book ?Shirk?, and disbelieving the decisive verses ?Kofer?, and following non-well- established verse to cancelout well established verses.If Free-Minds Management allows this, then they are committing the same Sins by ignoring there own rulls that they set for this Fourm.
Peace
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Whoa, hold on a second... You're saying that Jesus is NOT a descendant of Adam?! o How is this possible?
Jesus is a Spirit From God; in other word, He is only Half Human.
4171 O people of the Scripture, do not overstep in your system, nor say about God except the truth. Jesus the son of Mary was no more than God?s messenger and the fulfillment of His word to Mary, and Spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers, and do not say ?Trinity.? Cease, for it is better for you. God is only One god, be He glorified that He should have a son! To Him is all that is in the heavens and what is in the Earth. God is enough as a caretaker.
4171Jesus is one of God's creature, and a True servant of God.
Now, tell me whom other beside Jesus is being called SPIRIT From God, in Quran? !
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Ahamed, you are a disbeliever of many well-established Quaranic verses that prove the Virgin birth of Jesus (beside disbelieving in 9-128 & 129). I do not know what to think about you...But I know that God will take care of people like you.
God will take care of people like me, huh? laugh Has He told you this? Or are you speaking about God what you don't know? I don't know if you knew this, but that amounts to blasphemy...
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Jesus is a Spirit From God; in other word, He is only Half Human.
This is absolute foolishness, and you are speaking words of idolatry! How is Jesus only 'half-human'? What is the other half?! You sound like the pagans who call him the literal son of God. This is blasphemy, and it's not supported in the scriptures at all... Do you , like the Christians, believe Jesus is half-human and half-god?
4171 O people of the Scripture, do not overstep in your system, nor say about God except the truth. Jesus the son of Mary was no more than Gods messenger and the fulfillment of His word to Mary, and Spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers, and do not say Trinity. Cease, for it is better for you. God is only One god, be He glorified that He should have a son! To Him is all that is in the heavens and what is in the Earth. God is enough as a caretaker.
4171You amuse me with your talk of "well-established verses", even though you reject the Reading more than anyone else on here! Do you believe in one portion of the scripture and reject the rest? Why didn't you read the rest of the passage you posted?! It says
...Jesus was no more than God's messenger, and the 'fulfillment of His word to Maryam' (mistranslation), and a spirit from Him (mistranslation)...
Okay, we got that part. Now, what about the rest of the passage? It says
Believe in God and His messengers (PLURAL), and do not say 'three'.
Why would God compare Jesus to all the rest of His messengers? Why would the passage initiate the concept that Jesus is "no more than God's messenger"? If Jesus is a literal spirit from God, and this was unlike all the other prophets and messengers, wouldn't this make him MORE than a simple messenger of God? And why would this passage mentioning this concept next instruct us to believe in God and His MESSENGERS (plural)? Isn't this passage only speaking about Jesus?
The purpose of this passage was the clarification of God being only one god, not 'three' (as the Trinitarians claim). To confirm this concept, the Reading describes Jesus as just like all the other messengers of God... So, my question for you is Are you sure that "roohun minhu" should be translated as "spirit from Him"? Or could is possibly mean something else?
You, as an alleged Arabic speaker, should've easily caught these mistranslations. The word "ruh" refers to a spirit, and if the passage was speaking about a "spirit of God", it would've said Jesus was literally a "ruh-ul minhu". The word "ruhun/roohun" refers moreso to a revelation, a promise, or an engagement. In other words, Jesus wasn't a "spirit" from God, he was a promise from Him; hence, the Jewish ideology concerning the PROMISED MASHIACH. This mashiach wouldn't be a "spirit", he'd be a man. The idea of his being only "half-human"?! You've been reading too much Greek and Roman mythology or something... Rashad Khalifa noted the common mistranslation of "spirit"/ruh, and this is why he correctly translated this passage as saying Jesus was a "revelation from Him", not a spirit.
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This is absolute foolishness, and you are speaking words of idolatry! How is Jesus only 'half-human'?
One Half is Mariam, a Human; And the other Half is when the Spirit came and blew in Mariam.
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And Mary the daughter of `Imran, who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into her (body) of Our spirit; and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and of His Revelations, and was one of the devout (Servants). (66-12)And I think you disbelieve in the above verse...as usual yes
What is the other half?! You sound like the pagans who call him the literal son of God. This is blasphemy, and it's not supported in the scriptures at all... Do you , like the Christians, believe Jesus is half-human and half-god?
You know what I called him in my previous post, a Creature and a true servant of God; but because you are blind, as usual, and angry, as usual, you did not see it. !
You amuse me with your talk of "well-established verses", even though you reject the Reading more than anyone else on here! Do you believe in one portion of the scripture and reject the rest? Why didn't you read the rest of the passage you posted?! It says
I believe in 9-128 & 129, but you do not; THUS you believe in one portion of the scripture and reject the rest, and not me !
...Jesus was no more than God's messenger, and the 'fulfillment of His word to Maryam' (mistranslation), and a spirit from Him (mistranslation)...
Okay, we got that part. Now, what about the rest of the passage? It says
Believe in God and His messengers (PLURAL), and do not say 'three'.
Why would God compare Jesus to all the rest of His messengers? Why would the passage initiate the concept that Jesus is "no more than God's messenger"? If Jesus is a literal spirit from God, and this was unlike all the other prophets and messengers, wouldn't this make him MORE than a simple messenger of God? And why would this passage mentioning this concept next instruct us to believe in God and His MESSENGERS (plural)? Isn't this passage only speaking about Jesus?
The purpose of this passage was the clarification of God being only one god, not 'three' (as the Trinitarians claim). To confirm this concept, the Reading describes Jesus as just like all the other messengers of God...
So, my question for you is Are you sure that "roohun minhu" should be translated as "spirit from Him"? Or could is possibly mean something else?
Ok
You, as an alleged Arabic speaker, should've easily caught these mistranslations. The word "ruh" refers to a spirit, and if the passage was speaking about a "spirit of God", it would've said Jesus was literally a "ruh-ul minhu". The word "ruhun/roohun" refers moreso to a revelation, a promise, or an engagement. In other words, Jesus wasn't a "spirit" from God, he was a promise from Him; hence, the Jewish ideology concerning the PROMISED MASHIACH. This mashiach wouldn't be a "spirit", he'd be a man. The idea of his being only "half-human"?! You've been reading too much Greek and Roman mythology or something... Rashad Khalifa noted the common mistranslation of "spirit"/ruh, and this is why he correctly translated this passage as saying Jesus was a "revelation from Him", not a spirit.
You are a freak and a twisted D yes...Rouh means Rouh; unless you show a verse were Rouh was used to refer to another meaning other than Spirit, then you are a Liar...as usual yes
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God will take care of people like me, huh? laugh Has He told you this? Or are you speaking about God what you don't know? .
Yes...God told me about people like you.
627 And if you could see when they are standing over the Fire, they say ?If only we could be sent back, we would not deny the revelations of our Lord, and we would be believers!?
628 No, it is merely what they have been concealing that has now become evident to them; and if they were sent back they would return to what they were deterred from doing, they are but liars!LIAR...does that word ring the bell yes
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Peace Belal,
You can say whatever you want, but you're the one sounding like an IDIOT on here. You can't even have an organized debate without calling names. I don't have to call you a liar; God is enough as a witness. Are you placing yourself as a partner beside Him? You're nearly making yourself guilty of idolatry, and God doesn't forgive such transgressions...
Now, down to business... I never said the word "ruh" doesn't mean spirit. You were obviously lying about being able to understand Arabic language and grammar... Obviously... The Reading doesn't call Jesus a "ruh(-ul) minhu"; it calls him a "roohun minhu". So, what does "roohun" mean? I just explained that whole issue, but God has blocked your mind, and you are incapable of seeing the truth... Anyone else can see that there's a clear distinction between "ruh" and "roohun". A "roohun" is referring to a revelation or a promise, not a spirit. Rashad Khalifa showed this in his translation, and he correctly translated "roohun" as revelation, NOT SPIRIT.
One Half is Mariam, a Human; And the other Half is when the Spirit came and blew in Mariam.
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And Mary the daughter of `Imran, who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into her (body) of Our spirit; and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and of His Revelations, and was one of the devout (Servants). (66-12)What does this passage have to do with Jesus?! NOTHING! It says that gave her His spirit, and she became one of the obedient. So, how did she OBEY God's command? What did she do? This doesn't mention anything about Jesus at all, and it definately doesn't claim that Jesus is half-human and half-god. That's ridiculous! I think you're the one who doesn't believe in this passage; I do...
I believe in 9-128 & 129, but you do not; THUS you believe in one portion of the scripture and reject the rest, and not me
What do these verses have to do with THIS TOPIC?! Do you even know what you're talking about? In case you didn't know, this subject is about Maryam's alleged 'virgin birth'; it doesn't have anything to do with 9128 and 9129. It doesn't have anything to do with your shirk shahaada. It doesn't have anything to do with your arbitrary Ramadhan observance... ) Please stick to the topic... laugh
Peace,
Ahmad
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Peace,
Rooh is from God's command. The Rooh is not God but from God. When the command is running to it's destination it is called the Spirit and is given names like Gabriel and Michael. Jesus and Adam were created by the command 'be'. This command could be some sort of electromagnetic blueprint that will allign the molecules when it reaches the raw material which is dust in the case of Adam and Jesus. So people misinterpreted this that Jesus is the son of God which also implies that Adam is also the son of God or even a budding from God. God Himself is independant. The Spirit is not part of Him but comes from Him. Like a musical instrument, the sound it produces is not part of the instrument but definitely from it. This also means that the Spirit moves through a medium like sound through air. This medium could be the Ether or the Cosmic Waters hence His throne was on water. Note that God does two things- to create and to guide so they are two kind of Spirits one to create and one to guide named Gabriel and Michael. I don't know for sure which is which but Gabriel could be the Spirit of Guidance(Honest) and Michael is the Spirit of Creation(Holy). Just a thought.
Peace,
Rami
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Peace,
The Rooh is not God but from God.
Peace
You are right; Spirits (Rouh) are God's Creatures, but many people, when saying Rouh they think God. Here is one of themand it definately doesn't claim that Jesus is half-human and half-god.
When I said Jesus is a product of The Rouh blowing into Mariam (Half Human), He thought I'm implying that Jesus is Half Human and Half God
I call this, in a professional way, Lack of Intelligent.Here Why I believe that Rouh (Spirits) are God's Creatures
704 The angels and the Spirit ascend to Him in a day which is equivalent to fifty thousand years.
7838 The Day when the Spirits and the angels stand in line, none will speak unless the Almighty permits him and he speaks what is true.
Jesus is a very Unique Messenger according to Quran; Here is why
He was the only one who was called God's Word (4-171)
He was the only one who was called Spirit From Him (4-171)
He was the only one who was supported by the Holly Spirit (2-87, 2-253,, 5-110)
Hence, He was the only one who was able to Make Dead Humans alive (5-110).
He was the only one who made a bird from clay and blew into and became alive (5-110).
He was the only one who is Half Human (19-17 to 24) (66-12)
He spoke when Baby (17-24 & 4-171)The above are confirmed by Quranic Verses; thus, any one disbelieves in them, He and She are Disbelievers of Quran.
The Quran Clearly confirms Jesus Virgin Birth, and refutes that Jesus had a Father. As I showed from Quran, Jesus had said that He was only Good to His Mother; God Said that He gave his Bless to Jesus and His Mother; and in JD, God will speak to Jesus and His Mother. In all these incidents, that are confirmed by Quran, why Jesus allege Father was never mentioned? Is it because God is confirming that He did not Have a Father?
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To Ahamed...why did you call me
you're the one sounding like an IDIOT
Don't you know the rules of Free-Minds?
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Peace
2350 And We made the son of Mary and his mother a sign, and We gave them refuge on high ground, a place for resting and with a flowing stream.
Peace Dr. Hope
Few will understand the above verse and believe in; so do not become Sad if they disbelieve, and know they are not disbelieving you but Allah. -
To Ahamed...why did you call me Don't you know the rules of Free-Minds?
I didn't break any rule. I said you sound like an idiot. There's a big difference between telling someone they are appearing "idiotic" and actually calling someone an idiot. And you STILL sound idiotic; so what was the point of this comment?
Jesus is a very Unique Messenger according to Quran; Here is why
He was the only one who was called God's Word (4-171)
He was the only one who was called Spirit From Him (4-171)
He was the only one who was supported by the Holly Spirit (2-87, 2-253,, 5-110)
Hence, He was the only one who was able to Make Dead Humans alive (5-110).
He was the only one who made a bird from clay and blew into and became alive (5-110).
He was the only one who is Half Human (19-17 to 24) (66-12)
He spoke when Baby (17-24 & 4-171)The above are confirmed by Quranic Verses; thus, any one disbelieves in them, He and She are Disbelievers of Quran.
This is your false interpretation, and God surely misguides the wicked ones... First of all, Jesus is NOT the only thing called the word of God ("kalimullah" in the Reading. This is a completely false statement. Second of all, I just showed you the ignorance of your claim, and Jesus is NOT called a spirit from God in the scriptures; that's a mistranslation and a fabrication. Thirdly, the claim that he was the only person supported by the Holy Spirit is a complete LIE. Fourth, other prophets raised people from the dead, and this is confirmed in the Reading. Fifth, Jesus didn't make a clay bird come to life - God brought it to life, and it was used as a sign to the people, just like he allowed the other prophets to perform great signs and wonders. Jesus didn't do any signs of his own power and ability. Sixth, the Reading never says anything about Jesus being "half-human", and this claim is another completely fabricated LIE. And seventh, he spoke as a baby...? Okay... According to the Jewish claims, there are several prophets who spoke in infancy, including Abraham, Joseph, Elijah, Jeremiah, and others; this wasn't just a characteristic of Jesus...
So, are these things (that you mentioned) proofs that Jesus was only half-human? You're saying he's "half-human" and "half-spirit"?! How does God's spirit reproduce with a human person?
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This is your false interpretation, and God surely misguides the wicked ones... First of all, Jesus is NOT the only thing called the word of God ("kalimullah" in the Reading. This is a completely false statement. Second of all, I just showed you the ignorance of your claim, and Jesus is NOT called a spirit from God in the scriptures; that's a mistranslation and a fabrication. Thirdly, the claim that he was the only person supported by the Holy Spirit is a complete LIE. Fourth, other prophets raised people from the dead, and this is confirmed in the Reading. Fifth, Jesus didn't make a clay bird come to life - God brought it to life, and it was used as a sign to the people, just like he allowed the other prophets to perform great signs and wonders. Jesus didn't do any signs of his own power and ability. Sixth, the Reading never says anything about Jesus being "half-human", and this claim is another completely fabricated LIE. And seventh, he spoke as a baby...? Okay... According to the Jewish claims, there are several prophets who spoke in infancy, including Abraham, Joseph, Elijah, Jeremiah, and others; this wasn't just a characteristic of Jesus...
Every point you rejected is Quranic Point; moreover your rejection are not supported by Quran (you have not produced a singel verse to support your answer)
By the way, due to your twisted mind, Jesus performed all these miracles by God's permission and not by his own.
So, are these things (that you mentioned) proofs that Jesus was only half-human? You're saying he's "half-human" and "half-spirit"?! How does God's spirit reproduce with a human person?
First, every day you prove to all of us that you are a Huge "D".
First, Spirits are God's Creatures and not God.
Second, Spirits carry many duties that are assigned to them by God; one of them was to blew in Mariam in order to create Jesus. Other functions are listed in Quran. -
Every point you rejected is Quranic Point; moreover your rejection are not supported by Quran (you have not produced a singel verse to support your answer)
By the way, due to your twisted mind, Jesus performed all these miracles by God's permission and not by his own.
First of all, these are well-known Quranic passages, and I didn't feel it was necessary to post the references. Even sectarian Muslims know better than the nonsense you're posting... And you said Jesus' performance of these signs is in 'my twisted mind'? So, you think Jesus did these things independent of God's power, by his own abilities?! I hope you're joking dude... Please post references to confirm this FALSE claim...
First, every day you prove to all of us that you are a Huge "D".
First, Spirits are God's Creatures and not God.
Second, Spirits carry many duties that are assigned to them by God; one of them was to blew in Mariam in order to create Jesus. Other functions are listed in Quran.What is a "huge D"? If you're going to say something, at least be a man and say what you have to say. By posting such foolishness, you're looking like a huge "P"... laugh And where in the Reading does it mention spirits being used to impregnate women? Why would God send down a spirit to impregnate a woman when she has a husband (or if not, there are plenty of men around her)? What would be the point of this?! So, you're telling us that you believe Jesus is "divine" like Christians say, born of a virgin woman and therefore making him God's literal "son"? Or you're saying that Jesus was half-human and half-angel? Are either of these concepts supported in the scriptures?
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First of all, these are well-known Quranic passages, and I didn't feel it was necessary to post the references. Even sectarian Muslims know better than the nonsense you're posting...
Can you post them...please yes
And you said Jesus' performance of these signs is in 'my twisted mind'? So, you think Jesus did these things independent of God's power, by his own abilities?! I hope you're joking dude... Please post references to confirm this FALSE claim...
rotfl for sure you are a big "D". Please reread what I posted and what you quoted of my post !
Where is your BRAIN?What is a "huge D"?
rotfl do not you know what God Calls people who carry the Book without believing...62-5 ! what can I say, let me show you
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Why would God send down a spirit to impregnate a woman when she has a husband (or if not, there are plenty of men around her)?
Are you mocking God's well?
What would be the point of this?!
A sign from God to The Children of Israel
So, you're telling us that you believe Jesus is "divine" like Christians say, born of a virgin woman and therefore making him God's literal "son"? Or you're saying that Jesus was half-human and half-angel? Are either of these concepts supported in the scriptures?
No...That is what your twisted mind is telling you..."D"