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Peace Pseudo,
2233 And the mothers breast feed their children two years complete
The Arabic word "hawl" doesn't necessarily mean year. It is better translated as "cycle" as one brother kindly pointed out a few months ago on this forum. For delivering a newborn, the cycle is normally 40 weeks or about 10 full moons.
So 2 cycles would be 2*10 full-moons. So pregnancy (10) + weaning (20) = 30. This is confirmed by 4615 that you quoted
4615 and his weight/pregnancy with him, and his weaning/separation thirty months
3114 and his weaning/separation in two years (fixed at 365 days x 2)
The passage actually says "within" two years. So it is saying "in less than two years". This is consistent with it being normally 20 full-moons or a few more full-moons in case the baby is born prematurely.
Equation
weight/pregnancy with him + 730 days (365 x 2) breast feeding = 30 monthsThe formula is wrong. There is no calendar system that has 280+730 = 1010 days in 30 months or 33.67 days per month.
30 full moons can vary
1 lunar month = 29.53059 days
29.53059 x 30 = 885.9177 days
29.53059 x 29 = 856.38711 days
Therefore, weight/pregnancy has to vary in equation to compensate
Woman 1 becomes pregnant day after full moon;
Weight/pregnancy with him = 886 ? 730 = 156 days
Woman 2 becomes pregnant day before full moon;
Weight/pregnancy with him = 856 ? 730 = 126 days
Regardless if 2 months early, 9 months, or month late, if both woman are pregnant equal #of days, it would contradict to state that one woman was burdened 29 days longer.You are describing the same type of problem faced by doctors when they try to determine the due date for delivery. The lunar cycle provides an approximate estimate because it follows a cycle that generally resembles the woman's menstrual cycle. Similarly, doctors don't calculate the due date from the time of conception but from the time of a woman's last menstruation. This plus the fact that the length of pregnancies vary is why when doctors give a woman her due date, they tell her that it can vary within +/-14 days of that date (in other words a 28 days spread, which is close to your 29).
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace Kadeen,
ramadhan(scorching fullmoon) begins on the fullmoon after the summer solstice.(2185)
Yes, "shahr ramadhan" literally means "scorching full-moon".
The night of measure, is the night before the abstinence of the scorching moon(ramadhan) begins,Which lasts 10 days.
The night of measure is the night of the full-moon itself. the abstinance lasts for 10 days starting from the break of the day (dawn) following the night of measure.
Abstinence occurs during the daylight periods of the 10 day period. For those with non believing families or cant afford to stay the whole 10 days may stay 3 at the gathering and then abstain for 7 at home.2196
The "scorching full-moon" marks the abstinance while the next three moons are for marking the feast. 2196 talks about the feast/"hagg".
The months of restriction are four months,beginning with the scorching fullmoon.(the restriction is against hunting during those months)
The word "month" doesn't occur in the great reading. The word "shahr" means "full-moon" the period between four-full moons is 3 lunar "months".
The Gathering(hajj), last 10 days, Fullmoon to the crescent and occurs durig one or any of the last 3 restricted months.The gathering is to be attended by all believing families, but for those who dont have believing families, they can leave after 2/3 days.(2184; 2203)
Yes, the feast/"hagg" lasts from the full-moon to the crescent and is marked by the three inviolable full-moons following the scorching full-moon.
The year is solar and has 12 months.(936)
No solar year has 12 constant months. 936 is talking about "counting" exactly 12 full-moons every single year and therefore skip counting the occasional 13th full-moon that we would get every few years. This would automatically adjust the lunar cycle with the solar cycle so that the hunting restrictions are not violated.
Is umrah the lesser gathering and when should it be done? Can you explain to me 2196-197?
And perform Hajj (the gathering) and Umrah (lesser gathering?) for Allah; and if you are prevented, send sacrifice whatever is available; and do not shave your heads until the sacrifice reaches its destination; so whoever among you is sick or has an ailment in the head, must pay a compensation by fasting or charity or sacrifice; then when you are in peace - and whoever takes the advantage of combining the Hajj and Umrah, it is compulsory for him to sacrifice whatever is available; and whoever cannot afford it, must fast for three days while on the pilgrimage, and seven when you have returned to your homes; these are ten in all; this decree is for him who is not a resident of Mecca; and keep fearing Allah and know well that Allah?s punishment is severe.
The gathering(hajj) is during the well-known months; and for one who intends to perform the Hajj in it - neither is there to be mention of cohabitation in the presence of women, nor any sin, nor a fight with anyone till the completion of Hajj; and whatever good you do, Allah knows it; and take provision along with you for the best provision is piety; and keep fearing Me, O men of understanding!The word "hagg" means "feast" and "umrah" could be translated as something like "prosperity". So 2196 is talking about completing the feast and prosperity and enjoying/taking advantage of the feast and prosperity.
I know it says in 2185 that whoever witnesses the scorching moon should fast/abstain, does 2227 imply that even if we dont abstain, we should still attend the gathering(hajj)? It says it should be publicaly announced.
"And publicly announce the gathering(hajj) to all people ? they will come to you, on foot and on every lean she-camel, coming from every far distant journey."
In order that they may gain their benefit, and mention the name of Allah on the appointed days as He has bestowed the sustenance to them ? the inarticulate animals; therefore eat from them yourself and feed the distressed destitute.If I understood your question correctly, then yes we should try to attend the feast, even if we didn't abstain. Abstinance is a different exercise.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace Ayman
I would like to comment on thisBeging quote
No solar year has 12 constant months. 936 is talking about "counting" exactly 12 full-moons every single year and therefore skip counting the occasional 13th full-moon that we would get every few years. This would automatically adjust the lunar cycle with the solar cycle so that the hunting restrictions are not violated.
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According to your argument, in order to not violate the hunting restriction all over the earth, you will need different calender for each part of the earth. As you know, for example, when it is summer in Saudi Arabia, it is winter in south Africa, and therefore hunting season would be violated in south Africa if you do not have different Calendar for them.
In other words, if June, July, August, and September are the Hunting restriction time because of animal matting time (Fall) and animal heat exhaustion (summer), then, people in South Africa will be free to hunt from October to June period, in which animal matting time and heat exhaustion are current (violating hunting rules).Peace
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Peace ayman,
1-thanks!
Questions 2-6-Thats what I was trying to say.Thanks! )
7-What do you mean exactly by enjoying our prosperity? The text suggest we can keep umrah at other times, but may keep umrah during hajj.
8-Thats what I was thinking, thanks!God Bless!
KadeenPeace Kadeen,
Yes, "shahr ramadhan" literally means "scorching full-moon".
The night of measure is the night of the full-moon itself. the abstinance lasts for 10 days starting from the break of the day (dawn) following the night of measure.
The "scorching full-moon" marks the abstinance while the next three moons are for marking the feast. 2196 talks about the feast/"hagg".
The word "month" doesn't occur in the great reading. The word "shahr" means "full-moon" the period between four-full moons is 3 lunar "months".
Yes, the feast/"hagg" lasts from the full-moon to the crescent and is marked by the three inviolable full-moons following the scorching full-moon.
No solar year has 12 constant months. 936 is talking about "counting" exactly 12 full-moons every single year and therefore skip counting the occasional 13th full-moon that we would get every few years. This would automatically adjust the lunar cycle with the solar cycle so that the hunting restrictions are not violated.
The word "hagg" means "feast" and "umrah" could be translated as something like "prosperity". So 2196 is talking about completing the feast and prosperity and enjoying/taking advantage of the feast and prosperity.
If I understood your question correctly, then yes we should try to attend the feast, even if we didn't abstain. Abstinance is a different exercise.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace belH,
Not trying to be rude or answer for ayman,but it seems like the same people keep asking the same questions over and over when the answers have already been given in the same thread more than one time....
This easy to understand concept has been answered in this thread and others several times. Ayman and others have explained that the restriction is different between northern and southern hemispheres. So the restriction,hajj and fasting/abstinence in the southern hemisphere would be different or opposite of when people peform them in the northern hemisphere. In the southern hemisphere when its Winter here, people would be keeping the restrictions,hajj and fasting and we will not be, and when its winter there, we would be keeping them. And its been explained in this thread why this is possible or allowed. And there would be No need for two different calendars, as they are mainly used for secular reasons and not for Quranic festivals etc. We can use them or have them, but they are not required to observe the times given to us in the Quran, as also has been explained over and over in this thread and others, we use the moon and sun for counting and observing what God wishes us to do, not calendars.
Hope that helps.
Peace
KadeenPeace Ayman
I would like to comment on thisBeging quote
No solar year has 12 constant months. 936 is talking about "counting" exactly 12 full-moons every single year and therefore skip counting the occasional 13th full-moon that we would get every few years. This would automatically adjust the lunar cycle with the solar cycle so that the hunting restrictions are not violated.
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According to your argument, in order to not violate the hunting restriction all over the earth, you will need different calender for each part of the earth. As you know, for example, when it is summer in Saudi Arabia, it is winter in south Africa, and therefore hunting season would be violated in south Africa if you do not have different Calendar for them.
In other words, if June, July, August, and September are the Hunting restriction time because of animal matting time (Fall) and animal heat exhaustion (summer), then, people in South Africa will be free to hunt from October to June period, in which animal matting time and heat exhaustion are current (violating hunting rules).Peace
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Peace Ayman,
The formula is wrong. There is no calendar system that has 280+730 = 1010 days in 30 months or 33.67 days per month.
An equation is given
3114 and his weaning ?in less than two years?
4615 and his weight/pregnancy with him, and his weaning 30 full-moonsSolving using substitution
30 full-moons (856 to 886 days) ? his weaning (< 730 days or 2 yrs) = weight/pregnancy
18 to 22+ weeks = weight/pregnancyLunar months
(29.53059 x 30) 885.9177 days ? his weaning (< 730 days or 2 yrs) = weight/pregnancy
22+ weeks = weight/pregnancyThe main issue with full-moon, it violates equality for same offense depending on date of oath
2226 For those who swear away from their women (wives), waiting four months
Peace
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Peace Belal,
According to your argument, in order to not violate the hunting restriction all over the earth, you will need different calender for each part of the earth. As you know, for example, when it is summer in Saudi Arabia, it is winter in south Africa, and therefore hunting season would be violated in south Africa if you do not have different Calendar for them.
In other words, if June, July, August, and September are the Hunting restriction time because of animal matting time (Fall) and animal heat exhaustion (summer), then, people in South Africa will be free to hunt from October to June period, in which animal matting time and heat exhaustion are current (violating hunting rules).Animals follow the solar cycle so their hunting restriction period must be different in the Northern and Southern hemispheres. As Kadeen kindly pointed out, this was explained in details on this thread and it is precisely because the restriction is about hunting that this confirms that the timing of the restriction period must be different between the Southern and Northern hemispheres.
On the other hand, sectarians have abrogated the hunting restriction because they only restrict it for pilgrims during the few days of their so-called Hajj (which, by the way, is not timed by either the full-moon or any phase of the moon but starts arbitrarily on the 8th of the Dhu Al-Hijja). So they are blatantly violating even their own false interpretation of "ash-hur" as "months" and that the waxing crescent times the beginning of the "hajj". So what sectarians are currently doing as far as timing goes is wrong by any measure, even their own measure. It is not surprising that their timing is completely disconnected from the god's creation in the heavens and the earth and from the god's sayings. Indeed, whoever the god misguides then there can be no guide for
- Did they not look in the dominion of the heavens and the earth and everything that the god has created, and perhaps that their own term has drawn near? So with which saying after this do they have faith in?
- Whoever the god misguides, there can be no guide for and he leaves them aimlessly wandering in their tyranny.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace Kadeen,
7-What do you mean exactly by enjoying our prosperity? The text suggest we can keep umrah at other times, but may keep umrah during hajj.
The word "umrah" is a common concept that can mean "prosperity" or "prospering", etc. So it is used in 918, for example, do indicate that the institutions of authority ("masajid" of the god "prosper" only with those who have faith.
I think that the "prosper" part of the feast has to do with the purpose of the feast of witnessing benefits (222. Naturally, because people are gathered from all over for the feast, this is an opportunity to conduct business and commerce, all of which would result in prosperity. So if one enjoys prosperity in the course of the feast then one should donate whatever you can of livestock to contribute to the feast.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace Pseudo,
An equation is given
3114 and his weaning ?in less than two years?
4615 and his weight/pregnancy with him, and his weaning 30 full-moons
Solving using substitution
30 full-moons (856 to 886 days) ? his weaning (< 730 days or 2 yrs) = weight/pregnancy
18 to 22+ weeks = weight/pregnancy
Lunar months
(29.53059 x 30) 885.9177 days ? his weaning (< 730 days or 2 yrs) = weight/pregnancy
22+ weeks = weight/pregnancyAs I explained above, while 3114 tells us "less than two years", 2233 more specifically tells us that the weaning is two cycles (which for newborns is 10 full-moons). So the equation is as follows
4615 = .
As you can see, the two sides are equal.
The main issue with full-moon, it violates equality for same offense depending on date of oath
2226 For those who swear away from their women (wives), waiting four monthsThere is no violation and this is perfectly consistent with 2228
2228 And the divorced women wait for three menstruations...
Notice that here too there is no equality since depending on when the divorce happens (right before or right after a menstruation), the waiting period will similarly vary. In fact, 2226 and 2228 confirm that the way we count menstruations and the waiting period are the same (notice the same Arabic word "tarabus" used in both). So this means that like menstruations, "shuhur" are also "events" the only way this can be possible is if "shahr" meant "full-moon".
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace Belal,
Animals follow the solar cycle so their hunting restriction period must be different in the Northern and Southern hemispheres.
Peace Ayman
All I'm trying to do is to show why I disagree with you, in order to reach a common ground in which we all would be united.
Please read the following verses, which you might read 100 times before, so you would understand why I'm not agreeing to having different times for Northern and Southern Hemispheres.
Hunting is restricted while a believer is "Hurum"--under restriction
51 O you who believe, honor your contracts. Made lawful for you are all the animals of the livestock, except that which is being recited to you, and what you are not allowed to hunt of the game while you are under restriction. God decrees as He pleases.
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52 O you who believe, do not violate the symbols of God, nor the restricted month, nor the donations, nor what is regulated, nor the safety made by the Sacred Dwelling; for they are seeking a bounty from their Lord and a blessing. And when it is permitted (when the restriction is over after Hejj) for you, then you may hunt. And let not the hatred of another people; because they had barred you from the Sacred Temple; make you aggress. And bond together in piety and righteousness, and do not bind together in sin and aggression. And be aware of God, for God's retribution is severe.
52If hunting restriction is violated, then the believer will have to do the following in a Certain place--Kabba
595 O you who believe, do not kill any game while you are restricted; and whosoever of you kills it deliberately, then the recompense is to value what was killed against the livestock, which shall be judged by two equitable persons from you, and to make it as a donation to reach the Kaaba. Or, its expiation shall be in using it to feed the needy ones, while he abstains from it; that is to suffer the results of his deed; God forgives what has past. And whosoever returns, then God will seek vengeance on him. God is Noble, capable of vengeance.
595Therefore, if one violated the hunting restriction in Southern hemispheres, according to the verse, he will have to travel to Kabba. And that is where I do not agree; I believe that Hunting restriction is during Hajj time.
Moreover, if a believer from Southern hemispheres wanted to perform Hajj, He or She will either have to travel during the Northern hemispheres gathering time or during the restricted period of the Southern hemisphere; if He would perform Hajj during Northern time, He will have to restrict himself from hunting, which means that he would be restricted twice in one year (one time during the Southern period and one time during Hajj); and if he would choose to perform Hajj during Southern time, then he would be restricted from hunting in a time that is not animal matting season nor animal heat exhaustion time in Northern part (violation of your theory).
I believe that the four restricted months period is the same in northern and southern hemisphere; and I believe that hunting restriction is only during Hajj time (5-95). And that is why I believe that Ramadan and Hajj time will rotate in season, hence, Lunar Year.
Ayman, I'm not trying to start another discussion nor aggravate any of you; God is my Witness that it makes me sad to see Submitters and Believers divided, and therefore, I'm trying to unite our understandings.
Peace
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Peace Belal,
All I'm trying to do is to show why I disagree with you, in order to reach a common ground in which we all would be united.
Please read the following verses, which you might read 100 times before, so you would understand why I'm not agreeing to having different times for Northern and Southern Hemispheres.
Hunting is restricted while a believer is "Hurum"--under restriction
51 O you who believe, honor your contracts. Made lawful for you are all the animals of the livestock, except that which is being recited to you, and what you are not allowed to hunt of the game while you are under restriction. God decrees as He pleases.
51Exactly. 51 clearly says "under restriction" and not only if you are attending the "hajj" in the same way that "honoring your contracts and eating all the livestock, except that which is being recited to you" is an obligation not only if you are attending the "hajj".
52 O you who believe, do not violate the symbols of God, nor the restricted month, nor the donations, nor what is regulated, nor the safety made by the Sacred Dwelling; for they are seeking a bounty from their Lord and a blessing. And when it is permitted (when the restriction is over after Hejj) for you, then you may hunt. And let not the hatred of another people; because they had barred you from the Sacred Temple; make you aggress. And bond together in piety and righteousness, and do not bind together in sin and aggression. And be aware of God, for God's retribution is severe.
52Please read the Arabic and see that the "hajj" is nowhere mentioned in 52. The underlined part are false words inserted based on preconceptions from Hadiths.
If hunting restriction is violated, then the believer will have to do the following in a Certain place--Kabba
595 O you who believe, do not kill any game while you are restricted; and whosoever of you kills it deliberately, then the recompense is to value what was killed against the livestock, which shall be judged by two equitable persons from you, and to make it as a donation to reach the Kaaba. Or, its expiation shall be in using it to feed the needy ones, while he abstains from it; that is to suffer the results of his deed; God forgives what has past. And whosoever returns, then God will seek vengeance on him. God is Noble, capable of vengeance.
595
Therefore, if one violated the hunting restriction in Southern hemispheres, according to the verse, he will have to travel to Kabba. And that is where I do not agree; I believe that Hunting restriction is during Hajj time.Again, in 595 there is absolutely no mention of "hajj". The god doesn't refer to the pagan stone cube in Mecca. The word "al-kaaba" in Arabic means "the base". The inviolable house is the base and its location is clearly given in 2226 as any place where partners are not setup with the god. It doesn't matter if it is in the Northern Hemisphere or the Southern one or anywhere.
Moreover, if a believer from Southern hemispheres wanted to perform Hajj, He or She will either have to travel during the Northern hemispheres gathering time or during the restricted period of the Southern hemisphere; if He would perform Hajj during Northern time, He will have to restrict himself from hunting, which means that he would be restricted twice in one year (one time during the Southern period and one time during Hajj); and if he would choose to perform Hajj during Southern time, then he would be restricted from hunting in a time that is not animal matting season nor animal heat exhaustion time in Northern part (violation of your theory).
If you travel to the US during the hunting restriction period in the US then you would be restricted from hunting in the US. You are not going to tell the police when they arrest you that you are from Downunder and therefore you follow the hunting restrictions there. Since their purpose is to protect wildlife, the hunting restrictions are a function of the location where the hunting is taking place. So even if you didn't travel to the US and while in Sydney you remotely triggered a gun that killed a deer in the US during the hunting restriction then you still violated the hunting restriction.
I believe that the four restricted months period is the same in northern and southern hemisphere; and I believe that hunting restriction is only during Hajj time (5-95). And that is why I believe that Ramadan and Hajj time will rotate in season, hence, Lunar Year.
595 doesn't mention "hajj" at all. As you admit, the god clearly tells us that the restricted period is "four shahr". So even by your incorrect definition of "shahr" as "months", the restriction on hunting should be for four of your months. So you are essentially contradicting and violating your own understanding.
Peace,
Ayman
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Again, in 595 there is absolutely no mention of "hajj". The god doesn't refer to the pagan stone cube in Mecca. The word "al-kaaba" in Arabic means "the base". The inviolable house is the base and its location is clearly given in 2226 as any place where partners are not setup with the god. It doesn't matter if it is in the Northern Hemisphere or the Southern one or anywhere.
Peace Ayman
The Kabaa is the place that Abraham built and called the Humans for Hajj 22-27.
And the verse I quoted clearly shows that any one violates the Hunting restriction will have to kill an equal animal in Kabba (5-95).
Please read 5-97 and you will know what is Kabba597 God has made the Kaaba to be the Sacred Dwelling; to enforce for the people, and for the restricted month, and for the donations, and for regulation; that is so you know that God knows what is in heavens and what is in Earth, and that God is aware of all things.
597If God did not mention Kabba as the place in which hunting violators will have to kill an equal animal as a punishment, I would have agreed with you that Hunting restriction is during the four restricted months.
Ayman, I believe that God has declared four months out of the twelve and called them Hurm "Restricted" (9-36).
And if one choose to perform Hajj in one of them, then he becomes under restriction "Hurm" from many things including Hunting. But when done with hajj, the restriction of hunting is no longer valid.2197 The Pilgrimage months are made known. So whosoever decides to perform the Pilgrimage therein, then there shall be no sexual approach, nor vileness, nor baseless argument in the Pilgrimage. And any good that you do, God is aware of it; and bring provisions for yourselves, though the best provision is righteousness; and be aware of Me O people of understanding.
2197 .Peace
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Peace Belal,
The Kabaa is the place that Abraham built and called the Humans for Hajj 22-27.
Abraham didn't build any pagan stone cube. The present stone cube in Mekka was built by the Saudis in 1996. This is an indisputable fact.
And the verse I quoted clearly shows that any one violates the Hunting restriction will have to kill an equal animal in Kabba (5-95).
Please read 5-97 and you will know what is Kabba
597 God has made the Kaaba to be the Sacred Dwelling; to enforce for the people, and for the restricted month, and for the donations, and for regulation; that is so you know that God knows what is in heavens and what is in Earth, and that God is aware of all things.
597
If God did not mention Kabba as the place in which hunting violators will have to kill an equal animal as a punishment, I would have agreed with you that Hunting restriction is during the four restricted months.Again, no mention of "hajj" here. The real "kaaba" doesn't suddenly cease to exist when there is no "hajj". In fact, the word "qiyama" for all people describing "kaaba" means maintenance or persistent, in other words it is not just for a specific time or only for the specific people who are attending the "hajj".
Ayman, I believe that God has declared four months out of the twelve and called them Hurm "Restricted" (9-36).
And if one choose to perform Hajj in one of them, then he becomes under restriction "Hurm" from many things including Hunting. But when done with hajj, the restriction of hunting is no longer valid.
2197 The Pilgrimage months are made known. So whosoever decides to perform the Pilgrimage therein, then there shall be no sexual approach, nor vileness, nor baseless argument in the Pilgrimage. And any good that you do, God is aware of it; and bring provisions for yourselves, though the best provision is righteousness; and be aware of Me O people of understanding.
2197 .Notice that 2197 doesn't say "no hunting". The reason that 2197 doesn't mention anything about hunting or being "restricted" is because the hunting restriction has nothing to do with "hajj". Even if no one in the world went to the "hajj", the four inviolable/restricted "shahr" would still be "inviolable/restricted". This is a fact.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace Ayman,
Okay that makes since, thanks!God Bless,
KadeenPeace Kadeen,
The word "umrah" is a common concept that can mean "prosperity" or "prospering", etc. So it is used in 918, for example, do indicate that the institutions of authority ("masajid" of the god "prosper" only with those who have faith.
I think that the "prosper" part of the feast has to do with the purpose of the feast of witnessing benefits (222. Naturally, because people are gathered from all over for the feast, this is an opportunity to conduct business and commerce, all of which would result in prosperity. So if one enjoys prosperity in the course of the feast then one should donate whatever you can of livestock to contribute to the feast.
Peace,
Ayman
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Notice that 2197 doesn't say "no hunting". The reason that 2197 doesn't mention anything about hunting or being "restricted" is because the hunting restriction has nothing to do with "hajj". Even if no one in the world went to the "hajj", the four inviolable/restricted "shahr" would still be "inviolable/restricted". This is a fact.
Peace,
Ayman
Salaam
This is because there is no single calendar and in the Quran the moon is held out as the one for keeping counts of days, the secret months are not to keep the count of time but a set of months when hunting is prohibited, which is a seasonal event in the different part of the world which can at time come within the month of fasting or Hajj if it falls in those months when wild life need to be preserved.
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Peace Belal,
Abraham didn't build any pagan stone cube. The present stone cube in Mekka was built by the Saudis in 1996. This is an indisputable fact.
Peace
That is where I believe the Kabba ishttp//www.youtube.com/watch?v=anyer2hHVRs&feature=related
I would love to hear more about 1996 buliding of The Cube.
As far as the Hunting restriction, I still believe it is during the Hajj time while the believer is Hurm.
Peace -
As far as the Hunting restriction, I still believe it is during the Hajj time while the believer is Hurm.
PeaceIn 5.95 God commands the believers not to kill wildlife when they are restricted and explains to us how one shall be punished (or how he shall compensate) if he doesn?t obey to this restriction.
In 5.96 God tells us that there are two kinds of wildlife that in water and that on land. We do not have to impose any restrictions on water game but we must impose some restrictions to protect the wildlife on land.
If hurumun means a state of sacredness during the hajj which begins after the appointed places named miqat, which are places around and some kilometres away from Mecca, this means that God doesn?t know that there is no sea around Mecca and he allows us to kill wildlife in the seas around Meca while we are in a state of hurum.
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In 5.96 God tells us that there are two kinds of wildlife that in water and that on land. We do not have to impose any restrictions on water game but we must impose some restrictions to protect the wildlife on land.
If hurumun means a state of sacredness during the hajj which begins after the appointed places named miqat, which are places around and some kilometres away from Mecca, this means that God doesn?t know that there is no sea around Mecca and he allows us to kill wildlife in the seas around Meca while we are in a state of hurum.
This is a very good point.
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This is a very good point.
Thank you Samia,
In this respect I have a question. I will be thankful to you if you explain to me the following.
In Lanes Lexicon page 2616 ka3b (ب means ?eminence, or nobility, and glory.
Rajul 3aliy al-ka3bi ( ب means a man eminent, or noble, and successful in his enterprises.
So in the same way can we say (rajulun hadyan baligha alka3bati) ( ِ man who reached glory in guidance?
5.95 ? ?..
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Peace Ayman,
There is no violation and this is perfectly consistent with 2228
2228 And the divorced women wait for three menstruations...
No ?shahr? in verse.
Notice that here too there is no equality since depending on when the divorce happens (right before or right after a menstruation), the waiting period will similarly vary. In fact, 2226 and 2228 confirm that the way we count menstruations and the waiting period are the same (notice the same Arabic word "tarabus" used in both). So this means that like menstruations, "shuhur" are also "events" the only way this can be possible is if "shahr" meant "full-moon".
Woman waits 3 menstruations (not months) - Start day of divorce
End day of 3rd menstruation since divorceMan waits 4 months (not menstruations) - Start day of oath
End exactly 4 months laterMenstruations are variable/inconsistent one-time events.
Month is fixed consistent ?time? between two events. This is basic logic.
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