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What is happening in the Moslem world, is it a God?s Test or Curse?

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    Jim19
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    Shalom , Peace , Asalaam Alaikoum

    The arabic's countries hahahahahah ;D ;D ;D what do you think it will happen to them ? it's happened already ;D but as people are blind they don't see the Curse of God, do you know how many masjid they builded for worshiping satan ? then do you know that Rashad ( peace be upon him ) was attacked by terrorists ?

    those people is already tested by God , and the test become so hard, because the life is go so very fast , then they will never understand or to believe , they stay in the same place then how they can move if they deserted the Quran , then let them until 2012 when God will punish the middle east.

    I have feelings that the animals will be better than disbelievers ( traditional muslim ) , especially in the next years ( the future ) because Quran says , they are as animals , you have not seen that animals in the occidental countries they has their rights ? how about an poor arab ?

    Shalom

    Abd-Allah Mecherbet

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      belH
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      Surely you misunderstood my post! I started by (neither a test nor a curse). It's simply the fruit of what they are doing (and what they are not doing)

      Peace

      In Quran, God says that he will Curse those who carry the Book and conceal its guidences; therefore, I strongly believe what are happening in the Suni and Shia Countries is what God promised to do Curse!

      2159 Surely those who conceal what We have sent down to them of the clarity and the guidance, after We Had made it clear for the people in the Scripture; these will be cursed by God and be cursed by those who curse.

      "The arabs said we believed! Nay; say we became muslims, as believing has not even entered your hearts.". Being a Muslim is completely different from being a believer.

      Samia, The today's Suni and Shia are not the ones God speaks about in the above verse; The today Suni and Shia are not Submitters (muslems) nor Believers.
      Peace

      The arabic's countries hahahahahah ;D ;D ;D what do you think it will happen to them ? it's happened already ;D but as people are blind they don't see the Curse of God, do you know how many masjid they builded for worshiping satan ? then do you think that Rashad ( peace be upon him ) was attacked by terrorists ?

      Rashad Kalifa was cursed after deleting 9-128 & 129.

      then let them until 2012 when God will punish the middle east.

      They are already under God's curse. By the way Rashad said 2007 is when the destruction would occur

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        Jim19
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        Shalom belH

        open this page for to read what the messenger of God rashad ( peace be upon him ) is said .

        http//www.message-of-god.com/Mark%20My%20Word.htm

        Shalom

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          drfazl
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          Jim19

          What exactly you want to read of RK? It would be well appreciated you are precise on your part if you could paste that part of RK's philosophy which is applicable at this juncture.

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            Samia
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            Salaam BelH

            I edited your message to correct the last quote. It was not mine but belongs to Jim19

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              Bigmo
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              Surely you misunderstood my post! I started by (neither a test nor a curse). It's simply the fruit of what they are doing (and what they are not doing)
              Those who believe are those who believe, irrespective of their title. The verse says that those who bestow/extend safety to others, as they do that according to God's commands, He will help them and support them. Do Sunni and shia fall under the banner of those who believe?

              "The arabs said we believed! Nay; say we became muslims, as believing has not even entered your hearts.". Being a Muslim is completely different from being a believer.

              The verse did not say "say we became Muslims". The Koran uses Islam on mountains and animals saying "Aslama" meaning submitted to the authority of. The Muslim word on the verse you mentioned is a verb and not a noun. The verb Muslim was used by Noah, Abraham and even the magicians of the Pharoah went he decided to punish them for believing in Moses. I do not see any difference between a muslim and a believer. You can't be a muslim without being a believer. but it depends do you mean it as a verb or a noun.

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                Samia
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                Salaam Bigmo, all
                I translated " " as "became Muslims". I did not want to translate "muslims" since there are many different understandings for it. I do not, for example, uphold the translation "submitted".

                This verse surely shows there's a difference between being "muslim" and being "believer". If you put these words in a religious context, then yes, you cannot see a difference. Otherwise, being "muslim" does not automatically make one "believer". But a "believer" is by necessity a "muslim"

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                  Supernaut
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                  I could be wrong, but I think a muslim is someone who accepts the great reading's jurisdiction, while a momin is a monotheist who does good deeds and believes that they will one day be accountable for all their deeds.

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                    Wakas
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                    I strongly recommend the following article

                    http//www.free-minds.org/node/10

                    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                      belH
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                      Salaam BelH

                      I edited your message to correct the last quote. It was not mine but belongs to Jim19

                      Thank you;

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