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    drfazl
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    Farida Which is the mosque built with piety from the beginning? Who are the men in there that wish purity? Will it be our own houses that satisfy the two criteria?

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      farida
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      Farida Which is the mosque built with piety from the beginning? Who are the men in there that wish purity? Will it be our own houses that satisfy the two criteria?

      Salaam drfazl

      I came across one such mosque in Karachi, Pakistan and I respected them for maintaining the mosque only on their carefully screened funds. This mosque was started by a Physician, who started teaching about the meaning of tawheed and shirk. They were liberal in their thinking and, with time, researched and questioned many hadeeths.

      The local people were hostile to them and tried to burn that mosque but, despite being a very small minority they have managed to survive and still maintain the mosque IMO with integrity.(The rest only Allah knows) They encouraged that everyone should investigate mosques before praying there and I learned from them that we should do prayers in our own house if there is no pure mosque and that?s what we have done in the UK.

      peace

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        belH
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        Salaam

        I refused to go to any mosque unless I was convinced that its foundation was laid on piety. While investigating this I was horrified with what I came to know, I won?t even like to stand there to socialise so how can I offer my prayers in the mosques which do not comply with the ayahs below.
        Surah 9;
        108. Never stand thou forth therein. There is a mosque whose foundation was laid from the first day on piety; it is more worthy of the standing forth (for prayer) therein. In it are men who love to be purified; and Allah loveth those who make themselves pure.

        1. Which then is best? - he that layeth his foundation on piety to Allah and His good pleasure? - or he that layeth his foundation on an undermined sand-cliff ready to crumble to pieces? and it doth crumble to pieces with him, into the fire of Hell. And Allah guideth not people that do wrong.

        2. The foundation of those who so build is never free from suspicion and shakiness in their hearts, until their hearts are cut to pieces. And Allah is All-Knowing, Wise.

        I would propose everyone should find out themselves if the mosques are in line with the above requirements.
        peace

        Peace Farida
        I have always thought that tis was an order to the Prophet and not to all of us; but when thinking about it, I believe that the order is for all the Believers. Any way, I will have to search it again.
        Thank you for reminding us with these verses.
        Peace

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          drfazl
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          Farida

          Yes, may good sense prevail upon us and may Allah make each of our homes, a sacred mosque, and may He help our folks at home, start living with fear for Him. Let us pray for purity of our hearts so that it is kept that way for those who need peace. It is for such grace, people's mind will be circumventing the house and the household. Let us keep our hearts clean and pure to make our houses, the Bait al haram. Let each of our houses be the take off point for the incredible journey to masjid al Aqsa.

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            farida
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            Farida

            Yes, may good sense prevail upon us and may Allah make each of our homes, a sacred mosque, and may He help our folks at home, start living with fear for Him. Let us pray for purity of our hearts so that it is kept that way for those who need peace. It is for such grace, people's mind will be circumventing the house and the household. Let us keep our hearts clean and pure to make our houses, the Bait al haram. Let each of our houses be the take off point for the incredible journey to masjid al Aqsa.

            Insha'Allah handshake

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              unknownuser
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              Salaam

              I refused to go to any mosque unless I was convinced that its foundation was laid on piety. While investigating this I was horrified with what I came to know, I won?t even like to stand there to socialise so how can I offer my prayers in the mosques which do not comply with the ayahs below.
              Surah 9;
              108. Never stand thou forth therein. There is a mosque whose foundation was laid from the first day on piety; it is more worthy of the standing forth (for prayer) therein. In it are men who love to be purified; and Allah loveth those who make themselves pure.

              1. Which then is best? - he that layeth his foundation on piety to Allah and His good pleasure? - or he that layeth his foundation on an undermined sand-cliff ready to crumble to pieces? and it doth crumble to pieces with him, into the fire of Hell. And Allah guideth not people that do wrong.

              2. The foundation of those who so build is never free from suspicion and shakiness in their hearts, until their hearts are cut to pieces. And Allah is All-Knowing, Wise.

              I would propose everyone should find out themselves if the mosques are in line with the above requirements.
              peace

              Salaams ,

              with respects- my view is ;

              Buildings arn't based on mischief and or piety but your actions are.

              A msjid is an action, msjid al haram is an action that is forbidden-quite a few in the quran, A bait is a system where by we do things relative to one another and A bait al haram is a system that is forbidden like it is wrong for you to start up a system whereby you start eating up things belonging to others.

              hmm

              God Bless. peace

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                Ahmad_Bilal
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                Peace to all,

                The majority of Islaamic mosques are built on paganism and idolatry, and they can't worship God without attributing partners to Him. We're encouraged to seek out a place based on TAWHID, and most Muslims will never find a modern mosque that fits this simple criterion...

                Now, I have a question What about synagogues? Modern Jewish temples are dedicated to worshipping God (Allah, Elohim, YHVH, etc.) alone, and you won't find the idolatrous statements that fill Islaamic mosques (i.e. "La ilaaha illa allah wa muhammad alrasuwl wa'abdu allah") and Christian churches (i.e. "Jesus is Lord and Savior") pasted in Jewish synagogues. Even though they follow the guidance of prophets and rabbis, they don't put their words above the actual words of God in the Tavrah, especially not Orthodox Jews, which is completely contrary to modern masjids where Muslims place the hadith and sunna writings equal to, or even above, the Qur'aan... So, what's wrong with praying in a Jewish synagogue?

                A mosque is mainly grammatically considered as simply 'a place of worship'. In sectarian Islaam, this is the Muslim masjid. In Judaism, this is the Jewish temple or synagogue. In Christianity, this is the Christian church. All of them are considered "mosques"... As we already know, Christian churches are completely out of the question because of their idolatry, and unfortunately, so are most modern Islaamic masjids. So, what about Jewish synagogues? Are they out of the question too?

                Peace,

                Ahmad

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                  drfazl
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                  Peace to all,

                  The majority of Islaamic mosques are built on paganism and idolatry, and they can't worship God without attributing partners to Him. We're encouraged to seek out a place based on TAWHID, and most Muslims will never find a modern mosque that fits this simple criterion...

                  Now, I have a question What about synagogues? Modern Jewish temples are dedicated to worshipping God (Allah, Elohim, YHVH, etc.) alone, and you won't find the idolatrous statements that fill Islaamic mosques (i.e. "La ilaaha illa allah wa muhammad alrasuwl wa'abdu allah&quot and Christian churches (i.e. "Jesus is Lord and Savior&quot pasted in Jewish synagogues. Even though they follow the guidance of prophets and rabbis, they don't put their words above the actual words of God in the Tavrah, especially not Orthodox Jews, which is completely contrary to modern masjids where Muslims place the hadith and sunna writings equal to, or even above, the Qur'aan... So, what's wrong with praying in a Jewish synagogue?

                  A mosque is mainly grammatically considered as simply 'a place of worship'. In sectarian Islaam, this is the Muslim masjid. In Judaism, this is the Jewish temple or synagogue. In Christianity, this is the Christian church. All of them are considered "mosques"... As we already know, Christian churches are completely out of the question because of their idolatry, and unfortunately, so are most modern Islaamic masjids. So, what about Jewish synagogues? Are they out of the question too?

                  Peace,

                  Ahmad

                  Ahmad Bilal,

                  I agree with you. Jewish synagogues are better places definitely than Ka'aba.

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                    mavera
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                    hi. i still don't get it, maybe it's because we see different examples in our neighbourhoods.

                    praying at home is ok. but think of someone leaving home early in the morning and will return home late in the evening. are you suggesting not to perform salat/prayer during the day and wait until he gets home?

                    what i see when i go to the mosque after regular prayer, is an empty big room, maybe a few people praying, scattered around the room, no one interferes, forces, even stares at any other person. there is no barrier for you to perform your praying, your style. in these terms, not using the mosque and look for a synagogue, i find it very unpractical and unnecessary, if not nonsense. (in general perspective, yes, the world itself is a mosque, you can pray anywhere)

                    i (also) think, it's not the buildings, it's the people.

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                      As I am staying walk away distance from the Masjid I could hear what they preach in Masjid. One Friday the Mullah was preaching about Prophet and Fathima. which was not found in Quran.. My GOD what the hell they are talking about. Its not in Quran...That moment I am convinced that my heart should be masjid as well as my house and my prayer is evolved.. Oh Lord make my heart as Masjid, temple or church and I love to live here.. Oh lord bless me with beautiful masjid where I live here and here after with peace...I just refer Quran. GOD has no where mentioned to keep beards etc. as well as doing Circumcision etc..

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                        drfazl
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                        It's a big bang Jango! Good post.

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