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Common misconceptions about Islam - help needed

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    Sulh
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    will there be grave punishment for a muslim who does not pray due to laziness like burning in hellfire and so on >(

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      So now we have

      -death for apostasy
      -women must fully cover up
      -stoning to death sanctioned
      -must be "Muslim" or you will go to "hell"
      -no freedom of religion
      -beating women

      • women confined to houses
      • man ruler over women
      • singing forbidden
      • listening to songs forbidden
      • images and statues forbidden
      • having beard is "islamic"
      • Male circumcision
      • Female circumcision
      • Women and men can't shake hands
      • Treatment of pigs disliked
      • Visiting churches forbidden
      • Men and women can't be alone (e.g. a male cab driver can't have a female passenger)
      • Gelatin is forbidden
      • There is such a thing is "holy war" in quran.
      • Some verses override others
      • Quran commands acceptance of hadeeth
      • Quran cannot be interpreted by laymen
      • Muhammad was completely illiterate
      • Muhammad kept slaves
      • Women can't driver cars
      • Sex education impermissible
      • Cutting of hands
      • Womans testimony only half that of a man
      • Zakat is 2.5%
      • Alcohol is forbidden not only terms of lifestyle consumption
      • You can't stand and pee
      • No such thing as rape in marriage
      • Reading quran in arabic without understanding arabic earns you "good points".
      • Forced marriage
      • Honor killings
      • Arab superiority
      • Blind belief
      • 72 virgins
      • Hajj is obligatory only for Muslims.
      • Writing a will is useless and not binding
      • Polygamy
      • Slavery
      • women can't travel without a ma7ram
      • Hawa (Eve) is the wife of Adam
      • woman is created from the rib of man
        -violence against non-muslims/pagans in chpt 9
        -Why can a husband beat his wife?
        -Why is a man able to have have more than one wife?
        -Why are women being oppressed?
        -How can they force marriage on their children?
        -Why are honor killings allowed?
        -Why do men have to grow a beard?
        -Why do women have to cover themselves completely?
        -If statues are not accceptable then why do muslims pray toward a brick building?
        -How can we respect a man who married a 9 year old girl?
        -Why does the son let his mother control his life after he becomes an adult?
        -Why did a religious leader spread his religion by sword
        -Why was Islam spread by sword
        -Why can men have sex with their slaves(what their right hand possess).
        -Muhammad(pbuh) influenced by satan leading to satanic verses in koran(after verses 19 and 20 ("Have you thought of Allt and al-'Uzz and Mant the third, the other?&quot
      • Allah is the God for Muslims.
      • Muslims are inherently violent (suicide bombers).
      • Muslims are supposed to have 4 wives.
      • Cutting the hands of thieves.
      • Dress code for men and women.
      • Praying 5 times a day.
      • Halal meat.

      Let's start with beards

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        afridi220
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        Let's start with beards

        Beard and turban is a must in sikh relegion.

        police

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          FAR
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          Beard and turban is a must in sikh relegion.

          police

          What came first, the chicken or archaeopteryx?

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            Wakas
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            Progress on my end about this has been slow. Mainly because I thought it would simply be a case of reviewing articles already written and refining them to compile a simple list. Little did I realise there is hardly any good quality information like this out there (no wonder people are being misled!) so a significant part has to be done from scratch, and I dont have that kind of time at the moment.

            Anyone have even a small contribution to make in answering the specific issues brought up? A link to an article, a book? Anything?

            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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              drfazl
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              will there be grave punishment for a muslim who does not pray due to laziness like burning in hellfire and so on >(

              Dear Sulh,

              What is not in Quran is not what God says. What God does not say is not Islam. 5 times prayer is Buhari's and mullahs' inventions and to Hell with them. Do not pray the ritualistic body straightening and bending and falling for it is not said in quran. If you do not do this you are already in the path of Allah. Heaven is yours.

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                FAR
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                Anyone have even a small contribution to make in answering the specific issues brought up? A link to an article, a book? Anything?

                You might be able to find some on the http//www.answering-christianity.com/ website, most likely as many of those misconceptions were created by such people.

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                  Wakas
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                  peace all,

                  Almost a year after this thread was started, not one response was given to any of the misconceptions listed.

                  But it is always better to light a candle than to curse the darkness is it not? ;D

                  An initial draft for the following misconceptions have now been done

                  Misconception Death for apostasy
                  Misconception Stoning to death allowed
                  Misconception Must be "Muslim" or you will go to Hell
                  Misconception No freedom of religion
                  Misconception Women confined to houses
                  Misconception Statues/images forbidden
                  Misconception A man and woman cannot be alone together
                  Misconception Religion and science/reason/knowledge are not compatible
                  Misconception Alcohol is forbidden
                  Misconception Islam and The Quran promotes a clash of civilisations
                  Misconception Islam promotes honour killings of women
                  Misconception Allah is the God for Muslims
                  Misconception Forced marriage is allowed in Islam
                  Misconception Muslims reject Jesus
                  Misconception Muhammad was the founder of Islam
                  Misconception All Muslims are Arabs
                  Misconception Islam was spread by the sword
                  Misconception Islam and The Quran promotes fighting, war and terrorism
                  Misconception Two female witnesses are equivalent to one male witness
                  Misconception Women receive less than men in issues of inheritance
                  Misconception Males/Females are required to be circumcised
                  Misconception Martyrs will receive 72 virgins in paradise
                  Misconception Woman/Eve created from the rib of Man/Adam
                  Misconception Islam and The Quran promotes suicide bombing
                  Misconception Muslim men have to grow a beard
                  Misconception Gold and silver are banned for Muslims
                  Misconception Islam and The Quran promotes 'jihad' or 'holy war'
                  Misconception Islam and The Quran promotes slavery
                  Misconception In Islam homosexuals must be put to death
                  Misconception Polygamy - Muslim men can have as many wives as they wish

                  The following remain unfinished, thus if anyone wishes to write something, feel free

                  women are required to cover up
                  wife beating is allowed
                  women have no rights in Islam
                  the punishment for theft is cutting off the thief's hands

                  The site will be catered to misconceptions about islam from non-Muslims, not misconceptions about Islam from traditional Muslims, although some content will overlap. If anyone can think of other misconceptions, feel free to mention them.

                  Site launch will be with or without the unifinished ones above, in mid April, GW.

                  All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                    Samia
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                    two more misconceptions

                    Adoption is prohibited
                    Dogs are not allowed in a house;if it licks any thing, purify with fire followed by dustpurification.

                    And a third the ka3ba is the house of God

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                      farida
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                      Salaam

                      Misconception More women will go to Hell
                      The widely publicized belief, among Muslims, of more women than men being destined for Hell originates in Judaism and Christianity, rather than in Islam, with the idea of Eve being responsible for the 'orginal sin', and there is no support in the Qura'n for this view .
                      peace

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                        Wakas
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                        Cant believe I forgot about the dog one! That one is a classic.

                        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                          ogmios666
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                          666

                          First of all you must understand one thing quite clearly, The Holy Quran is a re-confirmation of the previous scriptures ie, the Torah and the Ingell, we as muslims have to beleive in these books also, and we also have to believe in Moses. pbuh , Jesus. pbuh, they too were our prophets. The books which were handed down to man decided to change the books to make illegal things legal and legal things illegal to basically suit their wn selfish agendas. That is why Our Lord Allah, sent the Quran and told all of us that He will guard it from corruption, and uptil today not one single word has been changed. Therefore children, it is very essential that all of you just hold onto the Holy Quran and read it and understand it with meaning, the Quran has miracles within all the chapters, therefore the more you read it the more inspired will you all become.
                          The reason we are at our lowest ebb is simply because your elders had never guided you properly as to how to conduct yourselves in a proper manner, Muslim merely means to submit to God, therefore you cannot look at another person of another faith and tell him that he is a kafir, each and every human being has been born a muslim and in time they will all reinvert back to their true religion, it is a cycle which will be accomplished, in the meantime the ones who were born muslims should study in all aspects of education and read the Quran as much as possible, only then will you all be able to explain in a wise manner to everyone the religion which has been chosen by our LORD for us creatures to follow.
                          Islam is a religion of tolerance, therefore we as humans will make mistakes, strive to learn how we are to live in the life of the world, but if you do make mistakes do not worry ALLAH is the gentle and the Kind and He loves His creatures who merely Love Him.

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                            Wakas
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                            The following have been added

                            Misconception Adoption is not allowed in Islam
                            Misconception Dogs are not allowed to be kept by Muslims
                            Misconception Muslim women must fully cover up in Islam
                            Misconception A Muslim husband can divorce his wife immediately
                            Misconception Islam is a racist religion
                            Misconception Islam and The Quran orders thieves' hands to be cut off for this crime

                            Thus, the one remaining is wife beating.

                            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                              unknownuser
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                              Salaam,

                              Thus, the one remaining is wife beating.

                              Afghan law legalizes rape of wife, critics say
                              http//www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-afghan-law3-2009apr03,0,647468.story

                              President Hamid Karzai draws fire for signing the legislation related to Shiite Muslim life. It also prevents women from leaving the house without a man's permission.

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                                Wakas
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                                I read that today also. In any case, this thread is about providing a website resource/tool to educate and thus hopefully prevent/reduce such things.

                                In such websites, content is king, hence this thread.

                                Misconception Women confined to houses

                                Background Some think that in Islam a woman's place is in the home and they are not allowed outside or without the permission of their husbands or male family members. Some also think that women should not be allowed out by themselves unless chaperoned.

                                The Quran has several examples in which women are able to go freely and be amongst the community. The most clear example are in the references to Mary, some of which are shown below

                                And relate in the Scripture Mary, when she withdrew herself from her family to a place which was to the east.

                                So she was pregnant with him, and she retired to a far place.

                                "So eat and drink and be happy. If you see any person, then Say "I have made a vow of abstention for the Almighty, and I will not talk today to any person."
                                Then she came to her people carrying him. They said "O Mary, you have come with something totally unexpected!"

                                The above verses prove beyond doubt that she was alone in a location where it was possible other people may have met her, and then she returned to her people.

                                The example of Mary is very important because The Quran gives her a special status

                                And when the angels said O Mary! surely God has chosen you and purified you and selected you above the women of all the beings.

                                The Quran also gives an example in which believing women were allowed to be amongst the community even in times of hostility

                                And those who harm the believing men and the believing women, with no just reason, shall bear the guilt of slander and an evident crime.
                                O prophet, tell your wives, your daughters, and the wives of the believers that they should lengthen upon themselves their outer garments. That is better so that they would be recognized and not harmed. God is Forgiver, Merciful.
                                If the hypocrites, and those with disease in their hearts and those who spread lies in the city do not refrain, then We will let you overpower them, then they will not be able to remain as your neighbours except for a short while.

                                Women were also free to petition the prophet directly (who would have been the leader of the community at the time)

                                God has heard the woman who pleads with you regarding her husband, and she complained to God. And God hears the argument between you. God is Hearer, Seer.

                                There is also an example in which an engaged couple may meet in secret if they have something righteous to discuss

                                And there is no sin upon you if you openly propose marriage to these women, or you keep it between yourselves. God knows that you will be thinking of them, but do not meet them secretly, unless you have something righteous to discuss...

                                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                  Wakas
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                                  peace all,

                                  The site is now live for proofreading/testing

                                  http//www.misconceptions-about-islam.com

                                  Nothing on the website is final, i.e. feedback on any part of it is welcome, including content. Either personal message me or post comments here.

                                  The site search function does not work yet because it is a new site so google has not indexed the site yet. The "more" and "acknowledgements" page content is not done yet.

                                  All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                    Ahmad_Bilal
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                                    Peace Wakas,

                                    I just checked out the website, and it's very good and informative. Keep up the good work...

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                                      Sarat
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                                      Peace,

                                      Thank you so much for doing this Wakas.

                                      Its these simple things that go the farthest 😃

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                                        peace all,

                                        The site is now live for proofreading/testing

                                        http//www.misconceptions-about-islam.com

                                        Nothing on the website is final, i.e. feedback on any part of it is welcome, including content. Either personal message me or post comments here.

                                        The site search function does not work yet because it is a new site so google has not indexed the site yet. The "more" and "acknowledgements" page content is not done yet.

                                        Another site with the same content will be created using content management system software, so it will look a bit different. The address for that website will be islam-and-muslims.com

                                        Peace,

                                        Quick comments

                                        Marriage to 9 year olds is missing...
                                        http//www.muhammadanism.org/Hadith/Topics/Marriage.htm

                                        Inheritance verses revolve around and are depended on #of females thus exists a situation where an only daughter gets twice as much as her brothers.

                                        411 ...and if she was one, so for her the half

                                        Perhaps links to articles which further clarify or give alternate points of view.

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                                          ayman
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                                          Peace brother Wakas,

                                          The site is now live for proofreading/testing
                                          http//www.misconceptions-about-islam.com
                                          Nothing on the website is final, i.e. feedback on any part of it is welcome, including content. Either personal message me or post comments here.
                                          The site search function does not work yet because it is a new site so google has not indexed the site yet. The "more" and "acknowledgements" page content is not done yet.
                                          Another site with the same content will be created using content management system software, so it will look a bit different. The address for that website will be islam-and-muslims.com

                                          Good work.

                                          You might want to add that the most common and fatal misconception that resulted in all other misconceptions is in the title of the website. Fortunately, there are no common misconceptions about peacemaking so all the misconceptions would instantly vanish.

                                          Peace,

                                          Ayman

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