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Could the 911 attacks have been planned by aliens to defame the Quran?

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    Peace,
    As you may know Im skeptical that the US gov was involved in the 911 attacks HOWEVER i made a very interesting observation as following. The Quran is CONVENTIONALLY divided into 30 Parts. Verse 93 to the end of chapter/sura 9 BELONG TO PART 11 and it is in those verses that it states
    9109 Is one who establishes his BUILDING on the basis of reverencing Allah and to gain His approval better, or one who esatblishes his BUILDING on the BRINK OF A CRUMBLING cliff, THAT FALLS DOWN WITH HIM INTO THE FIRE OF HELL?...
    9110 Such a BUILDING that they have established remains a source of doubt in their hearts, until their hearts are stilled...
    NOW obviously in the context of the Quran if you read verses prior to this it has nothing to do with these events but it seems that some intelligence is DELIBERATELY planning to twist these verses out of context and PLANNED 911 ACCORDINGLY. My thinking is still that it was the sunni/shia muslims BUT there are other facts to consider. The sunnis/shias are not very fond of 19 in the Quran because based on tht code hadith n sunnah, a central dogma in their faith, has to be trashed and also verses 9128&129 which they consider part of the Quran so why would they make matches with code-19? Also it doesn?t make sense that such emotionally charged people would first try to match up codes with the Quran and then go on the attack. Also MOST SIGNNIFICANTLY how could the US government be involved either and choose 911, the emergency code, as the date making themlves suspicious? It's unlikely. Taking all this into account im considering for the first time, JUST CONSIDERING, the possibility of some Alien intelligence whove read the Quran and know it's conventional setting to have played a role in this. If true then I hypothesize the following. Those jinn aliens heard the Quran as per 721 1400 years ago. That is they knew about the above verses from sura 9 as well and knew that it contained a mention about buildings and them being thrown into the fire metaphorically. They though to themslves tht those are probably going to be good verses to rip out of context as attacking buildings was always considered a major issue and they knew human mentality. Later as sunni/shia divided the Quran into 30 parts and the latter part of sura 9 fell into part 11 they schemed and waited for the most powerful nation, i.e. US, to develop and hten introduce 911 as the emergency date. Taking this now they waited for signifcant buldings to get established and then all they had to do is wait for the appropriate date and get the attack carried out by whispering into the hearts of men as the vil ones always do as per sura 114. They used the already extremists and they left small hints perhaps coz of them having some sort of pride/arrogance as Iblees clearly does. Note that there were 19 hijackers. Those evil jinn aliens have now successfully reached thier goal i.e. DEFAMING THE QURAN. Notice how no one is blaiming the hadith for these events but everywhere the Quran gets the blame. If that isnt telling i dont know wht is.
    The following verses mentioning the term "JINN" MIGHT just be referring to aliens(Jinn in Arabic comes from the root "jan" meaning HIDDEN and is nowadays used often to refer to mythical creatures but from the way the Quran describes them i see it more liekly referring to EITHER 1) metaphor for certain groups of humans OR 2) Aliens. Plz note specifically the description of the Arabic terms used
    1527 As for the Jinn/Aliens We(Allah) created them before(mankind) from NAAR(Fire) of SAMOOM(root Siin-Miim-Miim poison, penetrate, burning hot. Another form ?sammun? of the same root hole, eye of the needle, small doorway at the side of a large gate. ?Samun? yet another similar adjective of the same root word ?pestilential scorching wind which penetrate into the bodies?).
    Then at another verse
    5515 And created the Jinn/Aliens from MAARIJ* NAAR(fire)

    • root Miim-Ra-Jiim meaning pasture, mixed(one thing with another, flow or flow freely(as separate entities), set forth. Another term of the same root ?marija? marred, spoiled, corrupted, impaired, disturbed, unsteady,confused
      721 Say "I(receiver of Quran i.e. Muhammad) was inspired that a group of Jinn/Aliens listened, then said "We have heard an amazing Quran".
      2739 One afrit(powerful jinn) from the Jinn said "I can bring it(throne of the queen sheba in the context) before you(solomon) stand up. Im powerful enough to do this."
      2740 The one who possessed knowledge FROM THE BOOK said "I can bring it to you in a blink of your eye."
      Then theres the mentioning of ?Iblees? commonly understood as ?satan? in the Quran who claims that whilst GOD created Adam and asked him to submit before him, he wldnt do so because he claimed to be made from fire and Adam from clay. Here are the verses
      711 We(GOD) created you, then we shaped you, then we said to the malaaikah(root Miim-Laam-Kaf controllers, kings, angels), "Fall prostrate before Adam." They fell prostrate, except Iblees (Satan); he was not with the prostrators.
      712 He said, "What prevented you from prostrating when I ordered you?" He said, "I am better than he; You created me from fire, and created him from mud."
      713 He said, "Therefore, you must go down, for you are not to be arrogant here. Get out; you are debased."

    NOW im also beginning to reconsider my old hypothesis that GOD might have used an alien process on the apes via malaaikah to create a new being out of them and then asked them to be of service to him which ONE, SATAN, DENIED denied whilst the others obeyed known as ?malaaika(controllers, kings)? mistranslated as ?angels? in most Quran translations. Amazingly also in the Quran Allah/GOD is defined as the ?Light of the heavens and the earth?. Heres tht verse too
    2435 GOD is the light of the heavens and the earth. The allegory of His light is that of a concave mirror behind a lamp that is placed inside a glass container. The glass container is like a bright, pearl-like star. The fuel thereof is supplied from a blessed oil-producing tree, that is neither eastern, nor western. Its oil is almost self-radiating; needs no fire to ignite it. Light upon light. GOD guides to His light whoever wills (to be guided). GOD thus cites the parables for the people. GOD is fully aware of all things.

    GOD Bless!

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      herbman
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      why do you want such an event in the great reading? If all the war and battles would be described in the Quran, you will certainly need more than one book.
      When Quran says everything is in this book , it means everything you need for salvation.

      Peace

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        Peace "herbman",

        why do you want such an event in the great reading? If all the war and battles would be described in the Quran, you will certainly need more than one book.
        When Quran says everything is in this book , it means everything you need for salvation.

        Peace

        JK- I think you misunderstood me. The 911 event is NOT IN THE QURAN AS INTENDED BY THE AUTHOR i.e. GOD. It's one of GOD's creatures who trickily wanted to show that a particular set of Quanic verses namely 9110-111 justify 911. They wanted to defame the Quran. And since ive been viewing "alienscienst"'s youtube challenge ive considered the evidecen for the existence of aliens and hence beleive tht the evil ones from amongst the jinn aliens CLD BE responsible BOTH 1) for carrying out 911 2) make everyone beleive it's the Quran which lead ppl to carry out 911. Got it? GOD Bless!

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          o It must have been the "aliens" who tipped off the hedge fund managers and investment bankers that engaged in short selling on the eve of the 9/11 and made astronomical amounts of money.
          Not to forget the "aliens", or angel who texted some very important, regular, and high profile staff working at the twin towers to take a day off. yes
          As for the rest it was their religious holiday; (goes to show which religion the aliens adhered to) &

          yeah

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            Peace "farida",

            It must have been the "aliens" who tipped off the hedge fund managers and investment bankers that engaged in short selling on the eve of the 9/11 and made astronomical amounts of money.
            Not to forget the "aliens", or angel who texted some very important, regular, and high profile staff working at the twin towers to take a day off. yes
            As for the rest it was their religious holiday; (goes to show which religion the aliens adhered to) &

            yeah

            JK- Farida can u show me all these relations i presented in regards to the hedge fund or tht the Jews were involved in 911? These conspiracies have been debunked already. Moreover why would they be so stupid and use the date 911, the EMERGENCY CODE of the US, to plan the attck on? Did you even read all of my article and try to connect the dots? I doubt it. GOD Bless!

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              Peace "farida",

              JK- Farida can u show me all these relations i presented in regards to the hedge fund or tht the Jews were involved in 911? These conspiracies have been debunked already. Moreover why would they be so stupid and use the date 911, the EMERGENCY CODE of the US, to plan the attck on?

              Salaam
              I don't need to show you anything; you are very well informed and you can easily google for all the information for confirmation of what I said or dig into the Channel 4 Uk archives around September 11, 2001.

              Did you even read all of my article and try to connect the dots? I doubt it. GOD Bless!

              You are right; I did not bother reading your conspiracy theory in detail, and why are you bringin Jews into all this. Dont be antisemitic.
              peace

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                Peace all,

                9/11 is a false flag operation executed by an interplay between Mossad and criminal elements in the US governement created to shift the public opinion toward supporting military operations in the Middle East to ensure a constant supply of oil through the Mosul-Haifa pipeline to Israel and control pipelines in Afghanistan and the opium trade. It is simply a war on resources by an imperialist nation which supports its economy by the Federal Reserve and the Petrodollar.

                Ask yourself

                What is Iraq has to do with 9/11?
                Why did the US lose interest in finding Osama Bin Laden?
                If there is freedom in the US, why don't the Americans do anything about it?
                Why is the Mosul-Haifa pipeline heavily guarded?
                Why is the US and Saudi Arabia very friendly to each other?
                If there is no oil in the Middle East, will all these tragedies still happen?

                Peace,

                Rami

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                  jonny_k
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                  Peace "farida",

                  Salaam
                  I don't need to show you anything; you are very well informed and you can easily google for all the information for confirmation of what I said or dig into the Channel 4 Uk archives around September 11, 2001. You are right; I did not bother reading your conspiracy theory in detail, and why are you bringin Jews into all this. Dont be antisemitic.
                  peace

                  JK- So are you saying the US gov carried out 911? Would be pretty stupid of them to use their own emergency code 911 as the date and make themselves immediately suspect wldnt it? GOD Bless!

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                    Peace beo "Rami",
                    I ask you the same thing. If what you say is true and the US gov carried out 911 it would be pretty sstupid for them to use their own emergency code, 911, as the date and make themselves immediately suspect, wldnt it? GOD Bless!

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                      Peace beo "Rami",
                      I ask you the same thing. If what you say is true and the US gov carried out 911 it would be pretty sstupid for them to use their own emergency code, 911, as the date and make themselves immediately suspect, wldnt it? GOD Bless!

                      They did this so its easy to remember to increase the traumatic effect. Most Americans are walking zombies and the government knows this. 9/11 is not the first or the last false flag op. It is a simple procedure for the greater good or the greater cash. The US governemnt will do anything to maintain political and economic superiority. Look at the countries labelled the axis of evil. Why are they called that? Because they reject US hegemony. Imperialism 101. The US is not the first country to act like this. Any powerful country will. Back to 9/11, the official story goes like this...19 hijackers, some alive(could be mutants), fooled Norad and the CIA crashing two commercial airlines into the WTC which miraclously collapsed the two towers and WTC 7 collapsed due to its grief for its parents death(some say fire). The 3rd plane crashed in the evacuated part of the pentagon building vaporizing immediately leaving no plane debris or bodies. This happened ofcourse after executing an impossible turn at a very high speed in a well protected airspace (ace pilot perhaps). The 4th plane missed its target vaporizing into thin air as well. The US government concluded without a shred of doubt that Osama bin Laden was behind this (Fox News knew it before any investigations started anyway) and planned to go into Iraq for WMD!!!!!!

                      Can you believe that? Not only it defies the laws of physics but common sense as well. It is like the moon landing. With the US government, EVERYTHING is possible. >D

                      Peace,

                      Rami

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                        Peace "Rami",

                        They did this so its easy to remember to increase the traumatic effect.

                        JK- Im sorry but this is just lame. This woudlve created more suspicion then it would cause traumatic effect which it is anyways. Nobody couldve oiverlooked th date format and perhaps this is why so many have come up with conpiracy theories n the first place.

                        Most Americans are walking zombies and the government knows this. 9/11 is not the first or the last false flag op. It is a simple procedure for the greater good or the greater cash. The US governemnt will do anything to maintain political and economic superiority. Look at the countries labelled the axis of evil. Why are they called that? Because they reject US hegemony. Imperialism 101. The US is not the first country to act like this. Any powerful country will. Back to 9/11, the official story goes like this...19 hijackers, some alive(could be mutants), fooled Norad and the CIA crashing two commercial airlines into the WTC which miraclously collapsed the two towers and WTC 7 collapsed due to its grief for its parents death(some say fire). The 3rd plane crashed in the evacuated part of the pentagon building vaporizing immediately leaving no plane debris or bodies. This happened ofcourse after executing an impossible turn at a very high speed in a well protected airspace (ace pilot perhaps). The 4th plane missed its target vaporizing into thin air as well. The US government concluded without a shred of doubt that Osama bin Laden was behind this (Fox News knew it before any investigations started anyway) and planned to go into Iraq for WMD!!!!!!

                        Can you believe that? Not only it defies the laws of physics but common sense as well. It is like the moon landing. With the US government, EVERYTHING is possible. >D

                        Peace,

                        Rami

                        JK- These myths have well been debunked at http//www.debunking911.com/ and heres the WTC7 claim debunked as well
                        http//www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
                        As for the moon conspiracy this is yet another hoax. Read http//homepages.wmich.edu/~korista/moonhoax2.html
                        GOD Bless!

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                          Rami
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                          Peace "Rami",

                          JK- Im sorry but this is just lame. This woudlve created more suspicion then it would cause traumatic effect which it is anyways. Nobody couldve oiverlooked th date format and perhaps this is why so many have come up with conpiracy theories n the first place.

                          JK- These myths have well been debunked at http//www.debunking911.com/ and heres the WTC7 claim debunked as well
                          http//www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
                          As for the moon conspiracy this is yet another hoax. Read http//homepages.wmich.edu/~korista/moonhoax2.html
                          GOD Bless!

                          There is debunking of anything. Not because they are making a site and ranting about it doesn't make it true. There is still no plane whatsoever in the Pentagon. And regarding the moonlanding, the return is almost close to impossibe.

                          http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbY5_qtz83M See there is even debunking of the debunking

                          Peace,

                          Rami

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                            Peace "rami",

                            There is debunking of anything. Not because they are making a site and ranting about it doesn't make it true. There is still no plane whatsoever in the Pentagon. And regarding the moonlanding, the return is almost close to impossibe.

                            http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbY5_qtz83M See there is even debunking of the debunking D

                            Peace,

                            Rami

                            JK- It's no rant. The mass of the scientists in the specific areas still considers 911 conspiracy as bunk and thats where ill stand. However even if the majority of non us scientists would line up and say that 911 was most probably planned by the us, each presenting their scientific evidence in their repective fields ofcourse, id take it into consideration. Same goes for he moon conspiracy. Otherwise you might just find a conspiracy behind anything. Doesnt make any sense. GOD Bless!

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                              Peace again "Rami",
                              By the way youve also not addressed the issue as to how the US gov would have related their emergency code 911 to division/part 11 of the sunni quran in sura 9. They mustve done hell lot of planning to achieve that. This wld mean theyd have to know about the Quran's statements in sura 9 verses 109-110 before 911 was introduced as their emergency code. No i find this too much. More likely is the alien intervention as ive stated and them inspiring radical sunnis to carry out the act. GOD Bless!

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                                Peace be unto you, brothers and sisters,

                                I have no idea whether to take this thread seriously, or to mop up the coffee I sprayed all over my screen upon reading the initial post.

                                Key word ALIENS. rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

                                If you mean jinn, the demons who assist iblis, we are in agreement The esoteric Mason who posts 'The Brave New World Order' boasts how 9-11 was a massive mega-ritual that opened a large 'stargate' or nexus to summon mass demons/jinn through. I would expect a huge show come the completion of the Twin Towers in December, 2012. Even Project Blue Beam is an unclassified Government plan to fake an 'Alien Attack' or 'False Rapture' to confound the populace.

                                The fact people of all races, nationalities, religions, sexes, and creeds have an easier time believing in Aliens and not in God and His Word, is proof how far the deception of iblis pervades society.

                                On that note, I exit, stage left.

                                Peace and blessings.

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                                  Peace "raginggaijin",

                                  Peace be unto you, brothers and sisters,

                                  I have no idea whether to take this thread seriously, or to mop up the coffee I sprayed all over my screen upon reading the initial post.

                                  Key word ALIENS. rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

                                  If you mean jinn, the demons who assist iblis, we are in agreement The esoteric Mason who posts 'The Brave New World Order' boasts how 9-11 was a massive mega-ritual that opened a large 'stargate' or nexus to summon mass demons/jinn through. I would expect a huge show come the completion of the Twin Towers in December, 2012. Even Project Blue Beam is an unclassified Government plan to fake an 'Alien Attack' or 'False Rapture' to confound the populace.

                                  JK- Jinn ARE a specific type of aliens according to my hypothesis. I beelive i made this clear in my MJAH post.

                                  The fact people of all races, nationalities, religions, sexes, and creeds have an easier time believing in Aliens and not in God and His Word, is proof how far the deception of iblis pervades society.
                                  On that note, I exit, stage left.

                                  Peace and blessings.

                                  JK- MAN if GOD created the aliens who are Jinn and Malaaikah what is the problem your having? Infact in the Quran we're required to beleive in Malaaikah. Some people ofcourse may beleive in Jinn and not beleive in GOD just as the Jinn themslves cn be atheists, chriatians, jews etc. GOD Bless!

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                                    farida
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                                    Peace again "Rami",
                                    By the way youve also not addressed the issue as to how the US gov would have related their emergency code 911 to division/part 11 of the sunni quran in sura 9. They mustve done hell lot of planning to achieve that. This wld mean theyd have to know about the Quran's statements in sura 9 verses 109-110 before 911 was introduced as their emergency code. No i find this too much. More likely is the alien intervention as ive stated and them inspiring radical sunnis to carry out the act. GOD Bless!

                                    Peace JK
                                    Some knowedgable aliens, ( angel like you) plus inspired radical Sunnis may make war a world merry go round. group

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                                      raginggaijin
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                                      Peace "raginggaijin",

                                      JK- Jinn ARE a specific type of aliens according to my hypothesis. I beelive i made this clear in my MJAH post.

                                      JK- MAN if GOD created the aliens who are Jinn and Malaaikah what is the problem your having? Infact in the Quran we're required to beleive in Malaaikah. Some people ofcourse may beleive in Jinn and not beleive in GOD just as the Jinn themslves cn be atheists, chriatians, jews etc. GOD Bless!

                                      Peace, brother,

                                      The label 'alien' configures the idea of the big-eyed big-head Greys or the Reptiliads. I'm very differential on this because theire is a creature known as jinn, but they will masquerade as these Sci-Fi stereotypes in the days to come to push the NWO/UN agenda. When that happens, what will those who cannot differentiate between Alien and jinn do? Will they embrace the UN/NWO as our 'saviors' or will they rebuke these creatures if they are around us in the name of God?

                                      People like athiests who believe in Aliens and not God or angels or jinn have made their own bed. We are believers! We believe in God, our Creator. We believe in the angels. We believe in the jinn. We believe in Judgement Day. We have no excuses.

                                      I do not believe in Aliens. I do believe in jinn masquerading as Aliens. Did I clarify my stance for you? Because I do rotfl when I hear serious discussion of Aliens. P

                                      http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxNe9gFN390

                                      Watch this to the end. Look up LooseChange and their documentary. Search for the blog 'Brave New World Order" and start plowing through it. Just beware This rabbit hole goes pretty deep.

                                      Peace and blessings.

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                                        Peace "raginggaijin",

                                        Peace, brother,

                                        The label 'alien' configures the idea of the big-eyed big-head Greys or the Reptiliads. I'm very differential on this because theire is a creature known as jinn, but they will masquerade as these Sci-Fi stereotypes in the days to come to push the NWO/UN agenda. When that happens, what will those who cannot differentiate between Alien and jinn do? Will they embrace the UN/NWO as our 'saviors' or will they rebuke these creatures if they are around us in the name of God?

                                        JK- The Quran says there are good and bad jinn. And the reptilian type campuflage is not very far off from Jinn onsidering this verse
                                        2710 "Throw down your staff." When he saw it moving like a JAAN(same root as jinn), he turned around and fled. "O Moses, do not be afraid. My messengers shall not fear.
                                        We know that this creature was a snake ferom other verses narrating the same event in different words
                                        2632 He then threw his staff, whereupon it became a profound snake.

                                        People like athiests who believe in Aliens and not God or angels or jinn have made their own bed. We are believers! We believe in God, our Creator. We believe in the angels. We believe in the jinn. We believe in Judgement Day. We have no excuses.

                                        I do not believe in Aliens. I do believe in jinn masquerading as Aliens. Did I clarify my stance for you? Because I do rotfl when I hear serious discussion of Aliens.

                                        JK- Well yes that could be true but that shows that Jinn and Malaaikah are not RESTCRICTED TO THE EARTH'S SURFACE OR ATMOSPHERE and they were not necessarily even formed on earth or from the earth like we did but instead developed in outer space since teyr made from blazing fire, possibly plasma of which theres no palce on earth for such to develop naturally into self replicating organisms . This then would qualfy them as alien beings by definition.

                                        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxNe9gFN390

                                        Watch this to the end. Look up LooseChange and their documentary. Search for the blog 'Brave New World Order" and start plowing through it. Just beware This rabbit hole goes pretty deep.

                                        Peace and blessings.

                                        JK- These 911 conspiracy theories have been debunked alread at
                                        http//www.debunking911.com/
                                        Ive said it many times before that in this way anything can be turned into a conspiracy. So ill only accept this if the majority of scientists WHOR QUALIFIED to have an OPINION ON THE MATTER, or in other words those whove studied 911 in particular, from all voer the world would start lining up in favor of 911 conspiracy. GOD Bless!

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