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    raginggaijin
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    salam,
    atually i have already watched that video and probably every video possible...........believe or believe not, i really hope people start to open there eyes....... i did leave on other posts in this topic about different activists, im sure you probably already know them....thank you

    Peace be unto you, sister,

    We can only point them in the direction after sharing the message. Even in this, we aren't guardians. I have no doubt that Wormwood will fall from the heavens according to Scripture, yet after researching the Mayan 2012 calendar/prophecy I am led to believe it is heralding the seat of satan, not the End of the World. Yet I will wait and see what happens.

    If you watch the series by nibirushock on YouTube he details theories on gamma radiation (which fit the prophecy in Revelation), a moon from Nibiru pulled from its orbit to hit earth (which would fit the Wormwood prophecy), as well as the coming of aliens. P There is much fiction in with the fact, which is why I watch them all and seek patterns. And I get a good chuckle out of a lot of the theories out there. rotfl

    The NAU is slated for 2010, RealID in 2011, and the WTC and Dubai tower are slated for completion in 2012. I do not find it odd that a pyramid caps one of the towers. As well, with Project Blue Beam declassified the idea of a fake alien attack or a fake rapture are plausible. I am leaning more towards a fake alien attack with the jinn assisting the minions of the serpent. I say this after finding the Masonic blog "The Brave New World Order" where a disciple of the Freemasons brags about the 'stargate ritual' created by the 911 WTC tragedy. The pillars and gate lend credence when both the towers and building 7 in between went down. Building 7 didn't have anything strike it, nor was it close to the destruction. /

    Please though, be at peace. We can share what we know and pray for God to guide. Yet always keep in mind that you are protected by God. Just make preparations, and if you believe you'll know when the abomination takes the seat of Isreal, it's time to flee into the wilderness.

    Feel free to use this topic to bounce ideas off of each other, or point to other videos that you think may be of interest. People may think us crazy, yet they'll find out soon enough. P

    And since I have your attention, I love your icon. I tell that to friends now and we all get a good laugh. D

    Peace and blessings.

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      anna
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      Peace be unto you, sister,

      We can only point them in the direction after sharing the message. Even in this, we aren't guardians. I have no doubt that Wormwood will fall from the heavens according to Scripture, yet after researching the Mayan 2012 calendar/prophecy I am led to believe it is heralding the seat of satan, not the End of the World. Yet I will wait and see what happens.

      If you watch the series by nibirushock on YouTube he details theories on gamma radiation (which fit the prophecy in Revelation), a moon from Nibiru pulled from its orbit to hit earth (which would fit the Wormwood prophecy), as well as the coming of aliens. There is much fiction in with the fact, which is why I watch them all and seek patterns. And I get a good chuckle out of a lot of the theories out there. rotfl

      The NAU is slated for 2010, RealID in 2011, and the WTC and Dubai tower are slated for completion in 2012. I do not find it odd that a pyramid caps one of the towers. As well, with Project Blue Beam declassified the idea of a fake alien attack or a fake rapture are plausible. I am leaning more towards a fake alien attack with the jinn assisting the minions of the serpent. I say this after finding the Masonic blog "The Brave New World Order" where a disciple of the Freemasons brags about the 'stargate ritual' created by the 911 WTC tragedy. The pillars and gate lend credence when both the towers and building 7 in between went down. Building 7 didn't have anything strike it, nor was it close to the destruction. /

      Please though, be at peace. We can share what we know and pray for God to guide. Yet always keep in mind that you are protected by God. Just make preparations, and if you believe you'll know when the abomination takes the seat of Isreal, it's time to flee into the wilderness.

      Feel free to use this topic to bounce ideas off of each other, or point to other videos that you think may be of interest. People may think us crazy, yet they'll find out soon enough.

      And since I have your attention, I love your icon. I tell that to friends now and we all get a good laugh.

      Peace and blessings.

      salam raginggaijin,
      you know people like you and me dont really worry about what people think of us, the important thing to us is to let people know of whats going on and its absolutely up to them to research it or leave it, because we know many people simply are to busy with life they dont have time, there lives it seems is not important enough for them to even consider it, but that is their choice, but i have started to prepare for whatever is coming wether its nwo or planet x, because there is a possibilty that we might survive,and theres going to be hunger, starvation, chaos, all over... no one prepares for death...
      in any case whatever happens god is watching, but i do not believe that god would accept us just sitting and doing nothing because this is the future of our children, and ill be dammed if i let my kids become slaves to any human maniacs, i watched a video for david ickes today 3 hours long he is an amazing man god bless him and all like him, the only way to beat them is to unite and more and more people are waking up, l7amdillah

      i personally had a dream to be abducted by aliens, i still have my fingers crossed rotfl rotfl

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        Peace be unto you, sister,

        You and I are in totaly agreement. I too am preparing for the flight into the wilderness, as well as getting rid of the chaff around my home. Safety and security first, then I'll work on food. As an avid camper and working in Medicine, I have plenty already if anything happens. Yet living in the SF/Bay Area city proper, I have to worry about civil unrest along with the inevitable martial law that will occur. I've been a healer all my life and the thought of getting a gun is abhorrent to me. I'm praying for guidance from God; I haven't had to shoot a gun for years and as a veteran of the First Gulf War, I am lucky I never had to take a life. Insha'Allah I won't be placed in that scenario again. pr

        Some people, like my ex-wife, don't want to get prepared or think anything ill because they enjoy this carnal life too much. It is much better for them to put their head in the sand and ignore events while they continue eating, partying, and purchasing. Where your treasures are, that is where your heart is.

        Keep sharing the message. Last year at this time people were laughing at me when I told them Obama would win the election. They were laughing at me as I told them housing would plummet in value, and the economy would continue making a turn for the worse. They aren't laughing now.

        Well, okay maybe after I tell them about Nibiru. rotfl

        This is what has me concerned
        http//www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/culturepicturegalleries/4220575/Blackjack.html

        Obama's Stimulus plan has a light rail from LA to Nevada slated for construction. As well, Hollywood is their best propoganda machine.

        I have a pit in my stomach they will hit SF/Bay Area instead of LA. (

        At least if I get nuked in a False Flag attack, I won't have to pay my school loans. rotfl

        Check out www.barackobamaantichrist.blogspot.com and see the recent Glenn Beck interview. He's telling viewers to prepare for civil unrest.

        lol don't get 'abducted' by aliens. They have a probing fetish; sounds painful! rotfl

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          Fadhli
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          Heya anna

          figuring out on what's gonna happen on 2012 is an interesting journey for me. This future event teaches me a lot. And now i am anticipating it joyously. This event will change the human perception on who they are and why they are here. What most ppls do in spreading this words affects only minutes of them compared to what's in store for us somewhere in 2011,2012,2013. However, the internet will accelerate the flow of information quite significantly and many will wake up.

          The most important lesson that it taught me is death is not the end and need not to be feared. Death-Extinction, which in this case perceived as an emotional thing that our children future of survival is just the nature of being physical human. This fight or flight or survival instincts that has been with us since our birth will be put to a test. Humankind will have to wake up at some point. Even before this events, those who becomes aware early will have an advantage. Those who realize this late, might lose this important lesson, but realize that it is also not the end for them. They just forgot, that's all. They will be reminded and all will be fine. We are not the saviors of others. Everyone is the saviors for themselves. This souls of ours, is eternal and immortal. So why fear death?

          I also realize that this event might not happen too. The future is not absolute but has strings of possibilities based on the statistics of probabilities of the current event. If a certain key event is triggered and some critical mass is reached, this event will inevitably happen, if not, things will go on like usual. But so far, they are somebody who is pulling the strings to make sure this things happen as planned. Only time will tell. For now we have to learn to be at peace and always seek the inner guide within us. That is a lesson that i am learning now, maybe it is for you guys too... To be at peace is million times much more profitable than worrying in fear because it allows us to see the unseen, to think the unthinkable by opening our minds and starts to perceive more.

          Here's some tips that i learn from my inner guide, instead of struggling on convincing your loved ones about this events, why not plant some seeds in their mind first. Then when the time comes, the seed will eventually grow, and it is time for you to water it to grow the seed. What kind of seed? only you will know. Because you will be the creator of the seeds.

          Hope this helps

          p/s, i had a vivid dream an alien being came to me from their ship (like a flying truck, sounded like a diesel train) and we hand shake and talk like an old friend. Cool dream. But the alien is urm... ugly... lolz...

          The cheek is similar like this, but i forgot about the eye.
          http//thumbs2.modthesims2.com/img/3/1/6/4/0/0/MTS2_Matsu_Mike_512643_Bith1.jpg

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            anna
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            salam all,
            i wonder if people still want to take the flu shot?

            http//www.infowars.com/%E2%80%98accidental%E2%80%99-contamination-of-vaccine-with-live-avian-flu-virus-virtually-impossible/

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              raginggaijin
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              salam all,
              i wonder if people still want to take the flu shot?

              http//www.infowars.com/%E2%80%98accidental%E2%80%99-contamination-of-vaccine-with-live-avian-flu-virus-virtually-impossible/

              Peace be unto you, sister,

              lol no! I haven't had a flu shot in a decade and I've always fared better than the first time I did. &

              Excellent information. Thank you for sharing and confirming my doubts on them!

              Peace and blessings.

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                farida
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                salam all,
                i wonder if people still want to take the flu shot?

                http//www.infowars.com/%E2%80%98accidental%E2%80%99-contamination-of-vaccine-with-live-avian-flu-virus-virtually-impossible/

                Salaam,
                If you read the breakdown of the stimulus package prepared by the Obama team you would find that a large chunk is reserved to cope with the ?avian flu? pandemic...what a well prepared Obama team! Wow! hail

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                  anna
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                  Salaam,
                  If you read the breakdown of the stimulus package prepared by the Obama team you would find that a large chunk is reserved to cope with the ?avian flu? pandemic...what a well prepared Obama team! Wow! hail

                  yes indeed >( >( >(, i suggest you watch this and then reply

                  http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&eurl=http//www.infowars.com/review-the-obama-deception-by-alex-jones/

                  then tell me how great your obama is voodoo voodoo

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                    farida
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                    yes indeed > > >, i suggest you watch this and then reply

                    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&eurl=http//www.infowars.com/review-the-obama-deception-by-alex-jones/

                    then tell me how great your obama is voodoo voodoo

                    Are you kidding anna that you think I had any expectations from Obama ??? Go and check my previous posts long before you woke up to Obama mania o

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                      Peace,

                      The majority of astronomers specialized in the field of Mayan studies disagree with this Prophecy. I quote from http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Doomsday_Prediction#Criticism

                      Most university astronomers and other academics specializing in Mayan studies reject the galactic alignment theory. There is no evidence in the archaeological record to demonstrate that the classical Mayan civilization attached any apocalyptic significance to the completion of the 13 Bak'tun and the Long Count calendar does NOT end on 13.0.0.0.0. Thus, the claims of Jenkins and other amateur history detectives are considered speculative at best. University of Florida astronomer Susan Milbrath, author of Star Gods of the Maya, is among those who have accused 2012 doomsday proponents of exploiting Mayan culture to advance political or personal agendas. Moreover, since the nucleus of the Milky Way cannot be identified without high-powered telescopes, the Mayans could not have been aware of its location. The alignment in question takes place over a 36-year period, corresponding to the diameter of the sun, with the most precise convergence having already occurred without incident in 1998.

                      GOD Bless!

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                        raginggaijin
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                        http//frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=fh1388pcs.txt.pdf

                        Domestic draft bill, passed Senate already. Mandatory for youths, see Section 120.

                        Hail Obama.

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                          farida
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                          http//frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=fh1388pcs.txt.pdf

                          Domestic draft bill, passed Senate already. Mandatory for youths, see Section 120.

                          Hail Obama.

                          Salaam all,

                          Here in the UK too the government announced a long-awaited strategy on countering terrorism, and pointing the finger at certain races under the umbrella of religion.
                          New anti-terror strategy warns of chemical attack threat
                          Anti-terror document says changing technology makes prospect of chemical or biological attack more realistic
                          http//security.homeoffice.gov.uk/news-publications/publication-search/general/HO_Contest_strategy.pdf?view=Binary

                          I would like to say this much to all of you, who are concerned about what will come with the NWO, to read the verses below and ponder upon them. God acknowledges the mighty plotters schemes and does not expect us to deal with them, but HE would deal with them according HIS plan. Our job, as I understand it, is to be patient and not allow ourselves to assist evil doers, whether directly or indirectly.

                          354 And (the unbelievers) PLOTted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah.
                          6123 Thus have We placed leaders in every town, its wicked men, to PLOT (and burrow) therein but they only PLOT against their own souls, and they perceive it not.
                          6124 When there comes to them a sign (from Allah), They say "We shall not believe until we receive one (exactly) like those received by Allah's apostles." Allah knoweth best where (and how) to carry out His mission. Soon will the wicked be overtaken by humiliation before Allah, and a severe punishment, for all their PLOTs.
                          830 Remember how the Unbelievers PLOTted against thee, to keep thee in bonds, or slay thee, or get thee out (of thy home). They PLOT and plan, and Allah too plans; but the best of planners is Allah.
                          1342 Those before them did (also) devise PLOTs; but in all things the master- planning is Allah's He knoweth the doings of every soul and soon will the Unbelievers know who gets home in the end.
                          1446 Mighty indeed were the PLOTs which they made, but their PLOTs were (well) within the sight of Allah, even though they were such as to shake the hills!
                          1626 Those before them did also PLOT (against Allah's Way) but Allah took their structures from their foundations, and the roof fell down on them from above; and the Wrath seized them from directions they did not perceive.
                          1645 Do then those who devise evil (PLOTs) feel secure that Allah will not cause the earth to swallow them up, or that the Wrath will not seize them from directions they little perceive?-
                          16127 And do thou be patient, for thy patience is but from Allah. nor grieve over them and distress not thyself because of their PLOTs.
                          2750 They PLOTted and planned, but We too planned, even while they perceived it not.
                          2770 But grieve not over them, nor distress thyself because of their PLOTs.
                          2751 Then see what was the end of their PLOT!- this, that We destroyed them and their people, all (of them).
                          3510 If any do seek for glory and power,- to Allah belong all glory and power. To Him mount up (all) Words of Purity It is He Who exalts each Deed of Righteousness. Those that lay PLOTs of Evil,- for them is a Penalty terrible; and the PLOTting of such will be void (of result).
                          3543 On account of their arrogance in the land and their PLOTting of Evil, but the PLOTting of Evil will hem in only the authors thereof. Now are they but looking for the way the ancients were dealt with? But no change wilt thou find in Allah's way (of dealing) no turning off wilt thou find in Allah's way (of dealing
                          5242 Or do they intend a PLOT (against thee)? But those who defy Allah are themselves involved in a PLOT!
                          8615 As for them, they are but PLOTting a scheme,
                          7183 Respite will I grant unto them for My SCHEME is strong (and unfailing).
                          8615 As for them, they are but plotting a SCHEME,
                          8616 And I am planning a SCHEME.

                          God be with you
                          peace
                          farida

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                            raginggaijin
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                            I would like to say this much to all of you, who are concerned about what will come with the NWO, to read the verses below and ponder upon them. God acknowledges the mighty plotters schemes and does not expect us to deal with them, but HE would deal with them according HIS plan. Our job, as I understand it, is to be patient and not allow ourselves to assist evil doers, whether directly or indirectly.

                            Epic reply. Well said, farida.

                            I'm keeping an eye out so I know when to flee into the mountains come Tribulation. )

                            Peace and blessings.

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                              The 2012 Doomsday prediction is a present-day cultural meme proposing that cataclysmic and apocalyptic events will occur in the year 2012. This idea has been disseminated by numerous books, internet sites and by TV documentaries. The forecast is based primarily on what is claimed to be the end-date of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar, which is presented as lasting 5,125 years and as terminating on December 21, 2012, and incorporates warnings from climate experts and other environmental scientists that the Earth has reached a "tipping point" that could generate mass extinctions, as well as interpretations of assorted legends, scriptures and prophecies.

                              A New Age interpretation of this transition posits that, during this time, the planet and its inhabitants may undergo a positive physical or spiritual transformation rather than an armageddon

                              Historian Richard G. Kyle notes that predictions of the imminent end of the world have a very long history, with hundreds of documented examples, some associated with religious prophecies, others with astronomical events such as comets or eclipses, and others with calendar events such as the millennium

                              It may not be doomsday but something catastrphic may happen that day hmm

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                                Don't the Chrsitains believe that the world will end 2012 too?
                                I remember when everyone said that the world will end the year 2000, then when 2000 came they said the calendar started from the year 1AD so it will end 2001
                                And now its 2012? laugh

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                                  salam all,
                                  i wonder if people still want to take the flu shot?

                                  http//www.infowars.com/%E2%80%98accidental%E2%80%99-contamination-of-vaccine-with-live-avian-flu-virus-virtually-impossible/

                                  I don't know much about this infowars site but the Canadian newspaper they've cited is known to be dubious (I live in Toronto)

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                                    Don't the Chrsitains believe that the world will end 2012 too?
                                    I remember when everyone said that the world will end the year 2000, then when 2000 came they said the calendar started from the year 1AD so it will end 2001
                                    And now its 2012? laugh

                                    This is an article I wrote for our local paper two months ago

                                    We keep hearing stories on TV, in the newspapers, in the bar (who me? In a bar? Never! Well, ok, I?m in one now) about the end of the world ? end of time ? end of civilisation ? etc on 21st December 2012. On that date the Mayan calendar comes to an end, Nostradamus predicted catastrophe, even some religions get in on the act. But all these predictions depend on your own interpretation of what is written. So what, if any, is the significance of the date?

                                    21st December is, of course the winter solstice. The day when the northern hemisphere of the Earth is furthest away from the sun, the shortest day. It is also the last day mentioned in the Mayan calendar written thousands of years ago. Also a date mentioned by Nostradamus for (depending on how you read it) a large meteor will strike the Earth or world war 3 will start. Is there any scientific evidence for any of this? Well yes and no!

                                    1. It is predicted that the major planets of the solar system (not the dwarf planet Pluto ? sorry Pluto, you do your own thing mate) will line up.

                                    2. The Sun will also line up with the centre of our Galaxy. What difference will this make? No one knows, many theories but no facts, hasn?t happened since people have walked this Earth (as far as we know) ? and it doesn?t end there.

                                    3. Sunspot activity will be at its height.

                                    4. Every 300,000 years or so the magnetic field of the Earth collapses and reverses polarity, the magnetic north becomes south and vice-versa.

                                    Well what will that do? And how do we know when it will happen?

                                    The magnetic field of the Earth has been getting weaker and weaker over the past few years, signalling an imminent polarity shift. Scientists believe that the magnetic field will be dangerously low by 2012 allowing the solar winds to penetrate to the surface of the Earth, remember that the magnetic field protects us from these deadly rays, especially during high sunspot activity. So what causes sunspots? Well the Earth has a solid iron inner core surrounded by a very hot liquid metal and rock outer core; the friction (and other things) causes a single magnetic field to be produced. The Sun on the other hand is gas, with many boundaries between the layers of gas causing many different magnetic fields that travel around the Sun in all directions. The clash of these fields is what causes the sunspots, solar flares and solar winds etc. The Sun is a massive nuclear reactor causing millions of tons of Hydrogen to be fused together to form millions of tons of helium every single day releasing massive amounts of energy in the form of heat and radiation. It is the Earth?s magnetic field that deflects this radiation away from the surface of the Earth and off into space.

                                    So is this the end of the world as we know it? Nah! Remember all the predictions from scientists and other experts regarding the year 2000 (y2k)? The end of computers, aircraft falling out of the sky, satellites crashing to Earth, the end of civilisation as we know it, all sorts of catastrophes. Did it happen? No, of course it didn?t. We have predictions of the end of the world or civilisation almost every 10 years ? it hasn?t happened yet so why should it happen in 2012? Even if it did, is there anything we can do about it? Nope, so why worry about it? There are people that think it is the end of the world every time there is an election. Maybe they are right, who knows? As with elections, whatever the outcome, life goes on, as it will after 2012.

                                    I am now going to make a prediction- We will wake up on 22nd December 2012, the Sun will rise as usual, the Earth will still be here as will most of us and we will wonder what all the fuss was about and look forward to Christmas (or Hanukah). Sometime in the future, they will discover a Mayan calendar that continues from the 22nd December. Someone will reinterpret Nostradamus and discover he didn?t mean that at all and scientists will say ?Oh no, we didn?t say it would be the end?. If I am right we will all know. If I am wrong, then there will be no one left to tell me so! Except maybe two people trying to run for president saying that it will be the end of the world if their opponent wins.

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