Is Quran Complete?
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My dear Brother, handshake
I believe that The Quran is a word of Allah but it is not The Whole Word.)
And if whatever trees upon the earth were pens and the sea , replenished thereafter by seven seas, the words of Allh would not be over/finished/ended. Indeed, Allh is Exalted in Might and Wise. (3127)Btw, is 1993 your birth year? angel
The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. NOTHING SHALL ABROGATE HIS WORDS. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient
As for those who disbelieve, they will continue to harbor doubts until the Hour comes to them suddenly, or until the retribution of a terrible day comes to them.
You shouldnt harbor ANY doubt.
You shall recite what is revealed to you of your Lord's scripture. Nothing shall abrogate His words, and you shall not find any other source beside it.
Btw, is 1993 your birth year? angel
Yup
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My dear angel,
You need to be very accurate and not mix words when it comes to Al Quran. "Word" does not equal "Al Quran". Whenever you see the word "Word" then it is "Word". Whenever you see "Al Quran" then it is "Al Quran". Whenever you see "Quran" (Just Quran without Al) then it is "Quran". If You see "Al Kitab" then it is "Al Kitab" and not "Al Quran". We are not to mess up with Al Quran words and replace their places and change their meanings.
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My dear angel,
You need to be very accurate and not mix words when it comes to Al Quran. "Word" does not equal "Al Quran". Whenever you see the word "Word" then it is "Word". Whenever you see "Al Quran" then it is "Al Quran". Whenever you see "Quran" (Just Quran without Al) then it is "Quran". If You see "Al Kitab" then it is "Al Kitab" and not "Al Quran". We are not to mess up with Al Quran words and replace their places and change their meanings.
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So what does "word" imply in your opinion?
"We have given them a scripture that is fully detailed, with knowledge, guidance, and mercy for the people who believe." (752) Do you think that "scripture" implies any other than the quran?
6940 This is the utterance of an honorable messenger
6941 It is not the utterance of a poet; rarely do you acknowledge
6942 Nor the utterance of a soothsayer; rarely do you take heed
6943 A revelation from the Lord of the worlds
6944 Had he attributed anything falsely to Us
6945 We would have seized him by the right
6946 Then, We would have severed his life-line
6947 None of you would be able to prevent itWe know that the Quran was the only revelation that Pr. Muhammad got. We know that the only thing he could preach was the Quran. Above, it says "revelation" - do you still think it implies anything other than the Quran?
Peace
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Salam angel
kalimah= word
kalimat= words
Quran= Quran
kitab= kitab; some translate it as book, others as scripture, for me it means more than that.
wa7ey= revelations. Moses mom got a revelation to let her new born baby in the sea. So was that a Quran, the revelation she received?And so on.. handshake
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The reason being, I know I already pray more than I have to, even according to hadith books.
I pray
Fajr 2 rakats before, 2 Fajr rakats
Duhr 4 before (in 2 prayers), then 4 for Duhr, then 2 after
Asr 4
Maghrib 3, then 2 after
Isha 4, then 2 after
So it's not that important to me if the REAL obligatory prayers are 2, or 3, because I'm not concerned with that, because either way I'm not lowering the amount of times I pray. I have no problem with praying more. Neither do I have a problem with fasting on certain days of the week or giving more than a 2.5% amount of net income to the poor.
By the way I'm just curious...what was your purpose for that response? It just seems a little anti-Quranalone, to me personally.
Salam
Dear Brother
First of all we should stop Sunni Rituals and perform our own and preach them .
Preaching = Quran alone
Practice = Sunni Salaat
What is this called ? Name yourself.
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Peace TAJ,
"Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt." (6114)
Do you think "this book" refers to anything other than the Quran? The only scripture/revelation that Muhammad got was the Quran. Besides, do YOU think the Quran is complete? Yes or No?
Peace Q_s,
You're right about not performing Sunni rituals,
And @ Meteora
Why are you doing "Sunna" prayers? Are you a Sunni? Where in the Quran does it say to pray Sunna prayers? The extra prayer is the one at night where you meditate, praise God, recite the Quran, etc.
You believe in code 19, right? And that it proves the rakats? So why do you perform Sunna prayers? I'm not saying you shouldnt pray more or anything (although the people from submission.org say so) but those come from hadiths. -
angel 1993,
Peace TAJ,
"Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt." (6114)
Do you think "this book" refers to anything other than the Quran? The only scripture/revelation that Muhammad got was the Quran. Besides, do YOU think the Quran is complete? Yes or No?
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, "Then is it other than Allh I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail?" And those to whom We gave the Scripture know that it is sent down from your Lord in truth, so never be among the doubters.
I saw that in the translation that you brought and also the one I found in Google, the words that I coloured in orange are the translation of the one word ?Al Kitab?. My question is why did the translator translate the first word in the Ayah as The Book (and in other translations it is translated as Quran) and then translated the second word as The Scripture? In the Quran, the original Arabic Quran, it is the same word repeated twice in this Ayah. So who gave the translator the right to choose different words to translate one, same word ? Well, this is the understanding of the translator. He thought that Allah could not have meant that Al Kitab means Quran in both places because if so, then the previous people must have also received Al Quran way before Muhammad did! So, they concluded, Allah must mean another thing even though Allah has used the same word twice.
Well, I do agree with the translators that the word Al Kitab (The Book) can have more than one meaning, depending on context and also on one?s own understanding. In my personal understanding, it could sometimes mean The Universe. jedihandshake peace
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Dear Brother
First of all we should stop Sunni Rituals and perform our own and preach them .
Preaching = Quran alone
Practice = Sunni Salaat
What is this called ? Name yourself.
RegardsThe thing is I do not know any other way to pray, and I do not see the point in changing it when I like it as it is now.
The details of prayer are not important, so if you're praying the Sunni way, fine, as long as you're doing it for Allah and not idolizing Muhammad.
Also I'm pretty sure now the obligatory prayers are 3. It mentions from fajr (start) to night (end) and emphasizes the middle prayer, so that sums up to a minimum of 3. I however like to pray more, because, it's easy for me to stare at women even though I know it's wrong (Quran says lower the gaze). I feel that it's right for me to do a little extra worship if you know what I mean.
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And I forgot, angel 1993, to answer your question
Besides, do YOU think the Quran is complete? Yes or No?
Where does it say in the Quran itself, cover to cover, in all through the 114 surahs, that this Quran, cover to cover is complete the way it is? That the 114 surahs are all the surahs it contains? That the Ayat it contains are just those and nothing more? Who wrote the index? etc... I need an evidence from Al Quran About the Quran itself, and not about Al Kitab, especially when the translators all agree that Al Kitab can have more than just one meaning.
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salam,
Is Qur'an complete? If yes, then could anyone please show me where in the Qur'an 5-daily salat are mentioned also how to offer these salat prayers?
pbuhPeace,
Respectfully.53 Forbidden to you is that which is already dead, and the blood, and the meat of pig, and what was sacrificed to other than God, and that which has been strangled, and that which has been beaten to death, and that which has fallen from a height, and that which has been gored, and that which the wild animals have eaten from except what you managed to rescue, and what has been slaughtered on alters, and what you divide by the arrows of chance. This is all vile. Today the rejecters have given up from your system, so do not fear them, but fear Me. Today I have perfected your system for you, and completed My blessings upon you, and I have accepted submission as the system for you. So, whoever is forced by severe hunger and not seeking sin, then God is Forgiving, Merciful.
regarding the prayers
http//www.quran-islam.org/165.html
Glory be to our God.
Peace.