Allah creates Temporary gods and His representative --RK
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Salaam Brothers/Sisters
Does Allah really create temporary gods and His representatives ?
Can anyone really represent Allah ? (Is Allah Himself absent that He needs a REpresentative) ???RK is saying
Source http//www.submission.ws/quran/suras/ch2.html
Think over the sequence Allah's representative -----> Temporary god -----> Satan
Ma3aazallah thumma ma3aazallah
Where are Quran aloners and God aloners ? What do they say ?
RegardsWell RK interpreted representative(khalifah) as temporary gods. I don't see why it should mean that. Do you?
Khalifah actually can mean a Caliphate or a Sucessor as the Koran says that there came the generation of Khalf(sucessors) of the Israelites who abandoned the Salat. In fact Caliphate was used to mean the Sucessors to Muhammad. So its hard to see how temporary gods fits into this.
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Well RK interpreted representative(khalifah) as temporary gods. I don't see why it should mean that. Do you?
Khalifah actually can mean a Caliphate or a Sucessor as the Koran says that there came the generation of Khalf(sucessors) of the Israelites who abandoned the Salat. In fact Caliphate was used to mean the Sucessors to Muhammad. So its hard to see how temporary gods fits into this.
Peace ;
Who can represent Allah ?? astaghfirullah
Is Allah not present himself that He needs a Representative ??
"Khalifa" never means representative. Khalifa comes when original authority vanishes. Was Abu Bakar khalifa in the PRESENCE OF Muhammad PBUH ?
Where did Allah say that He is creating His (Allah's)Khlaifa ?
Prove it Brother. This is how RK persistantly bluffed.
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Salaam again Q-student,
Perhaps if you slow down and read Bigmo's post properly, you will see that he agrees with you.
RK bluffed. Agreed. I see no point discussing a man who did not believe in quran, and relied on another source to remove 2 verses from the quran. There are bigger lies than his. Like the ones who believe in the trinity.
We can only pray that God guides the followers of both lies to the Straight Path, and guides us to what is better and incrase us in knowledge.
Regards
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Salaam again Q-student,
Perhaps if you slow down and read Bigmo's post properly, you will see that he agrees with you.
RK bluffed. Agreed. I see no point discussing a man who did not believe in quran, and relied on another source to remove 2 verses from the quran. There are bigger lies than his. Like the ones who believe in the trinity.
We can only pray that God guides the followers of both lies to the Straight Path, and guides us to what is better and incrase us in knowledge.
Regards
The problem with Q student is he always puts words in my mouth and does not seem to understand my posts.
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Peace all
Why are all Code worsphippers silent and not answering about this height of ignorance by RK ? rotfl rotfl rotfl
Regards1 Surah Number 49, Ayah Number 11
Believers, do not let people mock other people who may be better than themselves. Do not let women mock women, who may be better than themselves. Do not find fault with one another, nor abuse one another with nicknames. An evil name is disobedience after belief. Those who do not repent are the harmdoers.Proof of your hypocrisy
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598237.msg199225#msg199225Have a taste of your own medicine! If you are going to criticise others, (like what you did in the link above), then at least practice what you preach.
2 Surah Number 61, Ayah Number 2
Believers, why do you say what you never do?3 Surah Number 61, Ayah Number 3
It is most hateful to Allah that you should say that which you do not do.Regards
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OK...so the verse talking about God sending a caliph, right? Muhammad was not born at that time, right? And God is God (the only deity), so when he sends a representative (capliph) of himself, satan is meant this is why he is a temporary "god" (not an actual one). Note that the verse is talking about the caliph causing bloodshed and terror. did Muhammad do that??
Satan is the one causing all of this bloodshed and terror. Atheists always like to ask the following question if there is a God, then why is there so much terror, filth, bloodshed and poverty in the world?
can you explain that without saying that satan is responsible (besides the humans who do not follow God's laws and forbid evil)?????
peace
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OK...so the verse talking about God sending a caliph, right? Muhammad was not born at that time, right? And God is God (the only deity), so when he sends a representative (capliph) of himself, satan is meant this is why he is a temporary "god" (not an actual one). Note that the verse is talking about the caliph causing bloodshed and terror. did Muhammad do that??
Satan is the one causing all of this bloodshed and terror. Atheists always like to ask the following question if there is a God, then why is there so much terror, filth, bloodshed and poverty in the world?
can you explain that without saying that satan is responsible (besides the humans who do not follow God's laws and forbid evil)?????
peace
Peace
Please prove
Khalifa = RepresentativeSecondly ,representative is sent or forme only when
-One is physical absent or
-One is physically or mentally disabled
Was Allah suffering from these two conditions (ma3azallah) that he needed to make a RERPRESENTATIVE?
Was RK mentally insane that he translated "Khalifa" this way? At least no mentally sane person can talk like this.Regards
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Peace
Please prove
Khalifa = RepresentativeSecondly ,representative is sent or forme only when
-One is physical absent or
-One is physically or mentally disabled
Was Allah suffering from these two conditions (ma3azallah) that he needed to make a RERPRESENTATIVE?
Was RK mentally insane that he translated "Khalifa" this way? At least no mentally sane person can talk like this.Regards
WHO ELSE COULD BE THE REPRESENTATIVE THAT CAUSES BLOODSHED (WHICH THE ANGELS COMPLAIN/QUESTION GOD ABOUT)???!?!!?!?!?!?!
Answer just that question, without switching the topic.
Peace peace
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WHO ELSE COULD BE THE REPRESENTATIVE THAT CAUSES BLOODSHED (WHICH THE ANGELS COMPLAIN/QUESTION GOD ABOUT)???!?!!?!?!?!?!
Answer just that question, without switching the topic.
Peace peace
Peace brother
There is no question of representation.
Khlifa never means "Representativet".
First prove it and then story of "blood shedding" can be discussed.
I am waiting for the evidence from you that "Khalifa" means "representative".
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Peace brother
There is no question of representation.
Khlifa never means "Representativet".
First prove it and then story of "blood shedding" can be discussed.
I am waiting for the evidence from you that "Khalifa" means "representative".
RegardsYou did not answer my question
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Dear Brother
We cannot put Cart before the Horse. First comes first.
Prove
Khalifa = representative
Then all other discussion will proceed.
RegardsWell, since i am not a professor in arabic i cannot do that, but it is widely accepted that "caliph" means "succesor" or "representative". Even if you dont accept this truth, then please answer my question imagining the truth that it means "representative". Do that please and get back to me. If you dont believe that it means "representative" then i cant help you.
peace
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Well, since i am not a professor in arabic i cannot do that, but it is widely accepted that "caliph" means "succesor" or "representative". Even if you dont accept this truth, then please answer my question imagining the truth that it means "representative". Do that please and get back to me. If you dont believe that it means "representative" then i cant help you.
peace
Dear Brother
I am sorry to say ,this discussion again going to be prolonged for nothing. If you have any evidence that
Khalifa means Representative, I will accept it wholeheartedly and apologize for misunderstanding Code 19 worshippers.
If you have no evidence ,then no use in dragging this thread.
It was AN EXPLICIT PROOF OF RK'S KNOWLEDGE AND BLUFFS.
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WHO ELSE COULD BE THE REPRESENTATIVE THAT CAUSES BLOODSHED (WHICH THE ANGELS COMPLAIN/QUESTION GOD ABOUT)???!?!!?!?!?!?!
Answer just that question, without switching the topic.
Peace peace
Man, in order to apply he God's commands and stop the bloodshed. The angels only knew of "bashar" wo preceeded adam and who shed blood, and from amongst whom adam was chosen and was made "insaan".