Is looking like this OK?
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I believe that women only need to cover their breasts, panties and privates
2431 And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and keep covered their private parts, and that they should not reveal their beauty except what is apparent, and let them put forth their shawls over their cleavage. And let them not reveal their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or the sons of their brothers, or the sons of their sisters, or their women, or those committed to them by oath, or the male servants who are without need, or the child who has not yet understood the composition of women. And let them not strike with their feet in a manner that reveals what they are keeping hidden of their beauty. And repent to God, all of you believers, that you may succeed.
I think "Beauty" simply means panties because zinah means "Adornment" and the god says that women shouldn't open their legs to reveal the beauty of theirs that isn't normally apparent. A woman can't send erotic signals to related men, men who don't desire women or children who "Have no understanding of a woman's shameful genital parts" by revealing her panties to them, but she'd be sending a very erotic message to an unrelated man if she were to let him see her panties. 2431 also says women shouldn't show their breasts or their privates.
I think 3359-61 apply only when the rate of sexual assault goes up. Women are told to lengthen their garments so as not to be harassed or raped, but 3359-61 also say that men who harass and rape women can't be allowed to live with the believers so the measures women are told to take against such men become redundant once they're no longer around.
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I pretty much agree with supernaut.
Just not sure on some dresses. Mainly the ones that expose most of the breasts. Depends what you understand by covering the ornaments.
I wouldn't be too sure on what jolie wore as it might expose SOME part of her breasts.I don't think it's too big a deal though. People should wear whatever their comfortable with IMO. If their comfortable with something like what Jolie wore and their intention is not wrong then IMO they should go ahead. I don't think there's anything wrong in trying to look glamouras and attractive and so I think what Jolie wore was good in the sense that there was glamour, style and class. About the exposure of parts of her breasts though, I don't know.
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24.31 And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss.
There has to be something wrong with the way these Sunnis translate MMA. Is that why they uses to castrate the slaves?
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I believe that women only need to cover their breasts, panties and privates
2431 And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and keep covered their private parts, and that they should not reveal their beauty except what is apparent, and let them put forth their shawls over their cleavage. And let them not reveal their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or the sons of their brothers, or the sons of their sisters, or their women, or those committed to them by oath, or the male servants who are without need, or the child who has not yet understood the composition of women. And let them not strike with their feet in a manner that reveals what they are keeping hidden of their beauty. And repent to God, all of you believers, that you may succeed.
I think "Beauty" simply means panties because zinah means "Adornment" and the god says that women shouldn't open their legs to reveal the beauty of theirs that isn't normally apparent. A woman can't send erotic signals to related men, men who don't desire women or children who "Have no understanding of a woman's shameful genital parts" by revealing her panties to them, but she'd be sending a very erotic message to an unrelated man if she were to let him see her panties. 2431 also says women shouldn't show their breasts or their privates.
I think 3359-61 apply only when the rate of sexual assault goes up. Women are told to lengthen their garments so as not to be harassed or raped, but 3359-61 also say that men who harass and rape women can't be allowed to live with the believers so the measures women are told to take against such men become redundant once they're no longer around.
I very much agree with what your saying. It's a bit hard to know what is considering showing your beauty. Is it make-up, hairstyle or just simple clothes.
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I think she means they do not look modest in some of their other photos
What I basically meant what, "Do these women look modest? Can a submitter with a good heart and intention
dress like this for occasions?"Thanks.
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Jolie's boobs weren't showing. I don't think any of them were dressed unislamically.
Yes. Actually i agree. She is actually pretty well covered IMO.
What i meant was, something like this
http//www.allfotoz.com/zbxe/files/attach/images/3969/685/005/scarlett%20johansson..jpg
What do you think of this?
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http//www.allfotoz.com/zbxe/files/attach/images/3969/685/005/scarlett%20johansson..jpg
peaceShe is in the "Show" business..... very nice pic
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What I basically meant what, "Do these women look modest? Can a submitter with a good heart and intention
dress like this for occasions?"Thanks.
I don't see wrong in them......
Although Scarlett's pic IMO was too revealing. It was sort of going past the glamourous stylish look.
Also, i think alot is dependent on what you class as a good intention.For example, I think that trying to attract others is ok and not a bad intention unless your just being lewd (bending over on purpose). Some may think differently. Some even think wearing tight cloths is wrong. I think it's fine. Although again there is an issue of how tight which again rests on your intentions.
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She is in the "Show" business..... very nice pic
No problem
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Peace,
Respectfully."O children of Adam, we have provided you with garments to cover your bodies, as well as for luxury. But the best garment is the garment of righteousness. These are some of GOD's signs, that they may take heed."
http//submission.org/dress.html
God bless you all.
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