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The Truth is Revealed About Makam Abraham In Mecca

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    nsws1988
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    Peace

    Hmmmm.. I can't see 2 left feet but the right foot seems a lot wider than the left. It could be that the shoes weren't cut the same shape.

    A foot print can't be a sign. Anyone can make a foot print and say this is Maqam Ibraheem.

    God bless

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      Does that mean that Mecca is not the place for pilgrimage? No.

      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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        the place is in Palestine , and not Mecca , for more information read THE NATURAL REPUBLIC , SECTION " THE LOST LEGACY OF ABRAHAM"

        This chapter will deal with the final and most important feature of unity in
        the Islamic republic, and that is its ability to interact with other people and
        nations in order to share with them the knowledge and merits of a system
        that has been designed by the One in the Heavens for all His creation to
        live and prosper in peace and happiness.
        ?The first Dwelling established for the people is the one in
        Bakk?a, blessed, and a guidance for the worlds. In it are clear
        signs the situation of Abraham. And whoever enters it will be
        secure. And God is owed from the people to make Pilgrimage
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        to the Dwelling, whoever can make a path to it. And whoever
        rejects, then God has no need of the worlds.? (Qur?an 396-
        97)
        Every year, we see millions of Pilgrims heading towards Mecca for the
        annual Pilgrimage/Hajj. The Pilgrimage takes place in the Arabic month
        of Zul Hujja and lasts for a period of three days in which the Pilgrims
        perform a number of rites, one of which is being dressed in a white cloth
        called Ihraam while circling the Kaaba several times, running between the
        two stones of the Safa and Marwa and throwing pebbles at the devil.
        Who is the Audience?
        ?And call out to the people with the Pilgrimage, they will come
        to you walking and on every transport, they will come from
        every deep enclosure.? (Qur?an 2227)
        The single most overlooked clue regarding Pilgrimage is the audience.
        Abraham was calling out to humankind and not to the believers or Muslims.
        This information poses a serious problem to the belief that Pilgrimage
        is a set of systematic rituals, as non-believers would not be able to identify
        with any of these rituals and would thus not carry them out.
        Why Would People Gather?
        ?The first Dwelling established for the people is the one in
        Bakk?a, blessed, and a guidance for the worlds. In it are clear
        signs the situation of Abraham. And whoever enters it will be
        secure. And God is owed from the people to make Pilgrimage
        to the Dwelling, whoever can make a path to it. And whoever
        rejects, then God has no need of the worlds.? (Qur?an 396-
        97)
        ?So that they may witness benefits for themselves and recall
        God?s name in the appointed days over what He has provided
        for them of the animal livestock. So eat from it and feed the
        needy and the poor. Then let them complete their duties and
        fulfill their vows, and let them traverse at the ancient Dwelling.?
        (Qur?an 2228-29)
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        Here are the two main reasons people would gather
        To witness benefits for themselves.
        To be made aware of the system established by God
        for the people.
        The first objective of Pilgrimage comes naturally from such a large gathering
        of different people at an appointed time(s) and place. This opens the
        door to opportunities of trade, information exchange, cultural exchange,
        networking, etc. This idea of the meeting and mixing of people/races can
        be clearly seen in verse 4913 below as part of God?s decree for humanity
        ?O mankind, We created you from a male and female, and
        We made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one
        another. Surely, the most honorable among you in the sight
        of God is the most righteous. God is Knowledgeable, Expert.?
        (Qur?an 4913)
        The second objective of making Pilgrimage is to share with all humankind
        the system of laws, government, and teachings that God has decreed
        to us through the prophets (both physical and spiritual). This teaching is
        achieved during a period of a few days when the Pilgrims are invited to
        feast on the meats prepared specially for the event while the system of God
        Alone is openly discussed and shared with the visitors. Hence, the term
        ?recalling God?s name? is to remind those present (believers and non-believers)
        of our allegiances to God because of what He has made available
        for us on this Earth and everything else He has blessed us with.
        Location of Pilgrimage
        ?The first Dwelling established for the people is theone in
        Bakk?a, blessed, and a guidance for the worlds. In it are clear
        signs the situation of Abraham. And whoever enters it will be
        secure. And God is owed from the people to make Pilgrimage
        to the Dwelling, whoever can make a path to it. And whoever
        rejects, then God has no need of the worlds.? (Qur?an 396-
        97)
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        Unfortunately, many people have taken for granted what the Scripture
        actually says on this and many other subjects and hence they end up following
        the teachings of the sects when it comes to God?s system.
        The Scripture gives the clear name Bakk?a (not Mecca) as being the
        location for the Pilgrimage.
        Where is Bakk?a?
        ?Blessed are they that dwell in thy house they will be still praising
        thee. Selah. Blessed is the man whose strength is in thee;
        in whose heart are the ways of them. Who passing through
        the valley of Baca make it a well; the rain also fills the pools.
        They go from strength to strength, every one of them in Zion
        appears before God. O Lord God of hosts, hear my prayer give
        ear, O God of Jacob. Selah.?
        The name Bakk?a has been retained in ancient scriptures and is the given
        as the name of the area which is reached as pilgrims exited the valley of
        Rephaim from the southwest that led to mount Zion in the heart of Jerusalem
        (Samuel 522-23).
        In-fact, the name Bakk?a is still retained for that very same area that
        approaches the heart of Jerusalem from the south west.
        Photograph of Jerusalem (Dome of the Rock)?The first Sanctuary
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        This evidence of Bakk?a being Jerusalem is bizarrely supported by Islamic
        history itself, which records that the Prophet, while in Medina, used
        to perform the communion (Salat) towards Jerusalem for a number of
        years, but then the focal point (Qibla) was changed away from Jerusalem
        (until today, the Muslims refer to Jerusalem as the first of the two Qiblas
        ?Uwla Al Qiblatain).
        The Change in Focal Point (Qibla)
        The source of all the confusion that has occurred seems to have been caused
        by the change in the Qibla (focal point) during the time of the Prophet
        ?The foolish from amongst the people will say ?What has turned
        them away from the focal point that they were on?? Say ?To
        God is the east and the west, He guides whomsoever He wishes
        to a straight path.? And as such, We have made you a balanced
        nation so that you may be witness over the people, and that
        the messenger may be witness over you. And We did not make
        the focal point that you became on except to distinguish who
        follows the messenger from those who will turn on their heels.
        It was a great thing indeed except for those whom God had
        guided; God was not to waste your belief. God is Merciful and
        Compassionate over the people.?(Qur?an 2142-143)
        According to traditional history, the Muslims were focused on the original
        Qibla of Jerusalem. Then, after some time, God suddenly gave a new
        decree that told them to face ?away? from that Qibla. This change in Qibla
        is supported with the Scripture?s verses of 2142 and 2143, and is further
        supported by archeological evidence that existed in the city of Medina of
        a mosque (masjid) with two Qibla directions (one towards Jerusalem and
        one opposite to Jerusalem?assumed to be towards Mecca).
        The Sunnis and Shia claim that the command was for the Prophet to
        now face Mecca?Arabia as the permanent Qibla. However, what the sects
        fail to explain is why the Prophet was facing Jerusalem to begin with, especially
        if the Temple was located in Mecca?Arabia all along as per their
        claims?Digging deeper into this issue, we find that the sectarian argument that
        Mecca?Arabia was being faced in this change of Qibla holds no water as
        turning away from Jerusalem would not put the Muslims on a path with
        such a supposed location

        What further raises suspicion that the Qibla was simply shifted ?away?
        from Jerusalem and not towards any city in particular (especially not
        Mecca ?Arabia) is that the original mosque with two Qiblas has been
        demolished by the Saudi government and a new one built with a possible
        realignment done towards Mecca?Arabia.
        The Final Qibla
        While the initial change in Qibla may have caused the confusion for people
        to lean towards the location of Mecca?Arabia, it seems that most commentators
        have missed the verses which speak of reverting of the Qibla
        back to the Restricted Temple (Jerusalem).
        ?We see the shifting of your face towards the sky; We will thus
        set for you a focal point that will be pleasing to you ?You shallset yourself towards the Sacred Temple; and wherever you may
        be, you shall all set yourselves towards it.? Those who have been
        given the Scripture know it is the truth from their Lord. And
        God is not unaware of what you do.? (Qur?an 2144)
        The sectarian commentators of the Scripture tried to promote the idea
        that the change that God speaks about in verse 2144 was the original one
        from Jerusalem to the Restricted Temple (which they make to be Mecca
        ?Arabia). The problem with this argument is that it ignores the fact that
        in verse 2142 God announces that a change has already taken place and
        that the foolish amongst the people will comment saying ?What made
        them change from their Qibla?? (i.e. there was a Qibla-1 which is the
        original, and a Qibla-2 which has sparked the questions).
        Then in replying to the people in verse 2143, God?s answer is given for
        the reason for the change by saying ?it was a test to distinguish the true
        followers of the Prophet.?
        Finally, after this sequence, we are told that the Prophet has been directed
        in verse 2144 to make the Restricted Temple his permanent Qibla
        (which cannot be Mecca ?Arabia because there has already been one
        change of Qibla away from Jerusalem and towards the opposite location).
        The only way to explain the current state of Islam (giving priority to
        Mecca?Arabia) is that the change back to Jerusalem did not take place
        until very near the end of the Prophet?s mission and that he died shortlyafterwards whereby the Muslims fragmented and entered into several civil
        wars, as per the Islamic history books. The victors from these conflicts
        managed to maintain the power base in Arabia and declared that the temple located in what later became known as ?Mecca Arabia? was the place
        where the Sanctuary established by Abraham is found and is the location
        of the Pilgrimage.
        This would also explain why there is some archaeological confusion in
        why the construction of some early mosques had the facing of the Qibla to
        be far to the north of Mecca, while even some of the early Muslims such as
        Abdul-Malik Bin Marwan believed that Jerusalem was the true Qibla and
        center for Pilgrimage and proceeded to expand the building of the Dome
        of the Rock by 691AD into the architectural masterpiece that it is today.
        Mecca in the Qur?an
        More importantly, with regards to Mecca, we find that the Qur?an does
        indeed refer to a city/town by such name and that such was an obstacle
        for Pilgrims who were trying to make their way to the Restricted Temple
        in Bakk?a!
        ?And He is the One who withheld their hands against you,
        and your hands against them in the interior of Mecca, after
        He had made you victorious over them. God is Seer of what
        you do. They are the ones who rejected and barred you from the
        Sacred Temple, and barred your donations from reaching their
        destination. And there had been believing men and women
        whom you did not know, and you may have hurt them, and on
        whose account you would have committed a sin unknowingly.
        God will admit into His mercy whomever He wills. Had they
        become separated, We would then have punished those of them
        who rejected with a painful retribution.? (Qur?an 4824-25)
        This is a far cry from the claims that Mecca itself was the name of the
        city where the Temple is located, or that Mecca was simply another name
        for Bakk?a.
        The Kaaba
        Allah hath appointed the Kaba,
        the Sacred House, a standard for mankind, and the Sacred
        Month and the offerings and the garlands. That is so that yemay know that Allah knoweth whatsoever is in the heavens
        and whatsoever is in the Earth, and that Allah is Knower of
        all things.
        We are told that the word ?Kaaba? means a ?cube shape? and that the site
        in Mecca has been constructed in accordance with this design requirementHowever, the meaning of ?cube? associated with this word is not completely
        accurate as the word ?Kaab/Kaaba? is associated in Arabic with any
        feature that is protruding, such as the bones to the side of the ankles as can
        be seen below
        ?O you who believe, if you rise to hold the communion, then
        wash your faces and your hands up to the elbows, and wipe
        your heads and your feet to the ankles (Kaabain); and if you
        have had intercourse, then you shall bathe. And if you are ill,
        or traveling, or you have excreted feces, or you have had sexual
        contact with the women, and you cannot not find water, then
        you shall select from the clean soil; you shall wipe your faces and
        your hands with it. God does not want to place any hardship
        on you, but He wants to cleanse you and to complete His blessings
        upon you that you may be appreciative.? (Qur?an 56)
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        Thus, any construct, regardless of its shape can be called a ?Kaaba? as long
        as it stands out from the plain.
        What we need to ask to be more detailed is ?are there any special features
        that are protruding at the site of the temple of Mecca?Arabia or
        Jerusalem that would give it the description of being a Kaaba?
        With regards to the temple of Mecca?Arabia, we have no apparent evidence
        of any special structure other than those buildings which are manmade;
        however, with regards to the temple area of Jerusalem, we have a
        unique rock formation that protrudes from the earth as part of the original
        mount and upon which the Dome of the Rock was built (hence the
        name).
        Photo of the Rock within the Dome (Jerusalem)
        The Situation of Abraham (Maqam Ibrahim)
        Another feature which is noted with regards to the location of the Temple
        in Bakk?a is the ?Maqam Ibrahim? (Station/Situation of Abraham) which
        we are told is to be found at the site of the Temple
        ?The first Dwelling established for the people is the one in
        Bakk?a, blessed, and a guidance for the worlds. In it are clear
        signs the situation of Abraham. And whoever enters it will be
        secure. And God is owed from the people to make Pilgrimage
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        to the Dwelling, whoever can make a path to it. And whoever
        rejects, then God has no need of the worlds.? (Qur?an 396-
        97)
        Here we can note an apparent discrepancy for the site of Mecca where
        the alleged ?Maqam Ibrahim? has been placed outside the alleged sanctuary/
        temple while it is supposed to be inside.
        It seems that some early Muslims were aware of this glaring discrepancy,
        and as such, a solution was invented that pilgrims were to ?imagine? that the
        Maqam/Hijr is located inside the temple domain and thus during the Hajj
        the area of the Maqam/Hijr is to be walked ?around? andnot ?through? just
        as if they are circling a continuous physical part of the temple.
        With regards to explaining why the Maqam is located in the wrong
        place to begin with, the Muslim scholars have opted for a crude explanation
        whereby they claim that the Kaaba walls were destroyed by flash
        floods during the life of the Prophet, but that he could not muster enough
        money together to rebuild the Kaaba to its original size, so he opted for asmaller Kaaba leaving the Maqam outside the sanctuary!
        To locate the true Maqam and its relation to the Pilgrimage, we need
        to explore the word as it occurs in the Scripture. The word ?Maqam? occurs
        in the following verses 2125, 397, 5107, 1071, 1414, 1779, 1973,
        2566, 2576, 2658, 2739, 3313, 37164, 4426, 4451, 5546, 7940. The
        meanings ascribed to this word as per its usage are ?Position, status, station,
        situation, place.?
        Looking at the stories of Abraham in the Scripture and trying to find
        the one that is nearest in subject to the Pilgrimage rites, we come across
        the famous story when Abraham has a dream in which he is sacrificing
        his son. God in His mercy intervenes and ransoms Abraham?s son with an
        animal sacrifice.
        ?And when he grew enough to work with him, he said ?My
        son, I am seeing in a dream that I am sacrificing you. What do
        you think?? He said ?O my father, do what you are commanded
        to do. You will find me, God willing, patient.? So when they
        both had surrendered, and he put his forehead down. And We
        called him ?O Abraham, you have carried out the vision.? It
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        was such that We rewarded the righteous. Surely, this was
        an exacting test. And We ransomed him with a great animal
        sacrifice. And We kept his history for those who came later.?
        (Qur?an 37102-10
        This episode recorded in the Scripture describes the trial/situation of
        Abraham with his son. Thus, for all purposes, the place where this event
        took place may be described as Maqam Ibrahim.
        Looking back at the Temple area of Jerusalem, we find a stone outcropping
        underneath the Dome of the Rock where it is claimed that Abraham
        was about to sacrifice his son in fulfillment of 37102-108.
        Photo of the Rock within the Dome (Jerusalem)
        It is also found that there are channels carved into the rock which are
        designed to siphon liquid to a chamber below, thus making the Maqam
        an ideal location for the animal sacrifice which isamongst the rites of the
        Pilgrimage.

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          almarh0m
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          Salamun alaykum

          Why are people still obsessed with rock and stone and "holy footprint" after supposedly following the Qur'an alone and serving god only ? What is the agenda of people wishing to move the 'graven image' in the shape of a stone cube from the current center of "pagan Arab" holiest rock and stone to Jerussalem ?

          The best meaning for Makam Ibrahim to me is The Stance or The Principle of Ibrahim and not a holy foot-print . One can easily confirm or refute this understanding by looking at the root list meanings of word the in question . Is this not a sign of a people being shackled to the ignorance of the past ? We still have the Qur'an with us as a source of guidance , is that not sufficient as a source of guidance anymore ?

          Peace

          almarh0m

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            are these the feet?

            http//img390.imageshack.us/img390/2122/49242009.jpg

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              Samia
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              are these the feet?

              http//img390.imageshack.us/img390/2122/49242009.jpg

              Yes, and he was not wearing shoes.. ;D

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                Salamun alaykum

                Why are people still obsessed with rock and stone and "holy footprint" after supposedly following the Qur'an alone and serving god only ? What is the agenda of people wishing to move the 'graven image' in the shape of a stone cube from the current center of "pagan Arab" holiest rock and stone to Jerussalem ?

                The best meaning for Makam Ibrahim to me is The Stance or The Principle of Ibrahim and not a holy foot-print . One can easily confirm or refute this understanding by looking at the root list meanings of word the in question . Is this not a sign of a people being shackled to the ignorance of the past ? We still have the Qur'an with us as a source of guidance , is that not sufficient as a source of guidance anymore ?

                Well said. I totally agree with you, especially the meaning of "maqaam". It's very wrong, and naive, to understand it as " a place where he stood". If there was an important incident where Ibrahim "stood", it was when he stood in the face of his nation against their idol statutes and ignorance, and that's what we should do when we are told that we have a good example in Ibrahim.

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                  Yes, and he was not wearing shoes.. ;D

                  Hmmmm... strange shaped feet. He had no toes?

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                    Hmmmm... strange shaped feet. He had no toes?

                    Was abraham a robot?

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                      Samia
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                      Hmmmm... strange shaped feet. He had no toes?

                      no toes, no shoes,
                      and two left feet

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                        Was abraham a robot? D

                        no toes, no shoes,
                        and two left feet

                        A robot that can't dance D

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                          Peace,

                          What keeps me wondering is... Did he kept standing on this place while building the kaaba... did not he move around? Also, the height on the kaaba.. he could not have make is this high with such a low standing point. However, we don't know how high the kaaba was originally... the place where he stood.. is it a rock which is used as a bench and moved around or is it a fixed place on the land?

                          I see the maqaam to mean stance more logical. However, have not cover this part yet. Need to do more research on it insha allah.

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