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Who was the greatest among all the messengers and prophets?

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    WayFinder
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    Is not distinction based on faith and doctrine is what the Koran is talking about? Like elevating prophet and his biography over others and creating a doctrine from that(crucifixion as a theology, shahada of Muhammad as an article of faith for everyone). However I was talking about God and not us.

    Let me put it this way. If you had to be one of them, who would it be. Or, who is the prophet of the Koran you are inspired about the most. Maybe this is a better phrasing.

    I think it is VAIN TALKs and does not deserve US to ponder and waste our time on it... For us, they are all equally equal... Thats all!

    They all had their UPs and DOWNs through their mission to mankind and we should respect ALL of them for they did deliver the message and concluded their mission successfully. It is not for us to decide who was the best and most skilfully among them... As it is stated in the Quran, this is not our duty.

    May God guide us all.

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      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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      Is not distinction based on faith and doctrine is what the Koran is talking about? Like elevating prophet and his biography over others and creating a doctrine from that(crucifixion as a theology, shahada of Muhammad as an article of faith for everyone). However I was talking about God and not us.

      Let me put it this way. If you had to be one of them, who would it be. Or, who is the prophet of the Koran you are inspired about the most. Maybe this is a better phrasing.

      I see what you mean, but this leads to/is glorification of them and making distinction among them.
      Each of them contributed to Islam/Submission.

      4152 Those who acknowledge God and His messengers and do not make a distinction between any of them, We will give them their rewards. God is Forgiving, Compassionate.

      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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        WayFinder
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        Dear Brother
        Distinction ,does not mean in terms of status ,but in terms of believeing. We cannot believe some and reject others.As far as status is concerned Allah HImself has given that distinction.

        Regards

        Yaeah... thats true

        However, why we should try to GUESS who is the one who is a Level 10 and who is at Level 1?? If Allah himself chose to keep that a secret.

        If its written clearly in the Quran who is the best, then that would not be a problem... I think we should abstain from such thing...

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          peace all,

          My understanding is that when it says God gave some over others, or did XYZ to ABC, it is within God's frame of reference. When it is our frame of reference, we are told not to make distinctions among them etc. I guess AQ is stating the obvious, i.e. each of their lives were different, different challenges, problems, environments etc hence differences amongst them, but ALL had a connecting aim/goal/mission - and this is what we can all agree and unite on, hence, in the big picture, there is no distinction.

          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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            Yaeah... thats true

            However, why we should try to GUESS who is the one who is a Level 10 and who is at Level 1?? If Allah himself chose to keep that a secret.

            If its written clearly in the Quran who is the best, then that would not be a problem... I think we should abstain from such thing...

            Peace
            Who is the one who has been sent to ALL mankind till Qiyaamah while rest of them were sent to their OWN nations only?
            Who is the one for which Prophets have been praying to Allah to send him?
            Who is the one for sending to which Allah has declared to be a great FAVOUR to Momineen?
            Who is the one ,the companions of which were declared to be favorites of Allah?
            Identification is not difficult.
            Regards

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              Jafar
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              Peace
              Who is the one who has been sent to ALL mankind till Qiyaamah while rest of them were sent to their OWN nations only?

              Gabriel, Ruhul Qudus

              Who is the one for which Prophets have been praying to Allah to send him?

              Mr. Blessing and Ms. Pardon

              Who is the one for sending to which Allah has declared to be a great FAVOUR to Momineen?

              All of God's blessing is a great FAVOUR to EVERYONE / EVERYTHING..

              Who is the one ,the companions of which were declared to be favorites of Allah?
              Identification is not difficult.

              All of His servants who stay true to His commandment..

              Identification is not difficult.

              Certainly.. as there are signs for those who understands..

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                WayFinder
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                Peace
                Who is the one who has been sent to ALL mankind till Qiyaamah while rest of them were sent to their OWN nations only?
                Who is the one for which Prophets have been praying to Allah to send him?
                Who is the one for sending to which Allah has declared to be a great FAVOUR to Momineen?
                Who is the one ,the companions of which were declared to be favorites of Allah?
                Identification is not difficult.
                Regards

                If you take it this way, then there are many other questions like this which can sprout like mushrooms... there are already a few in first post. This is not the right thing we should be doing... Its pure and blind speculation.

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                  Peace Q_Student,

                  ?Who is the one who has been sent to ALL mankind till Qiyaamah while rest of them were sent to their OWN nations only?
                  Who is the one for which Prophets have been praying to Allah to send him?
                  Who is the one for sending to which Allah has declared to be a great FAVOUR to Momineen?
                  Who is the one ,the companions of which were declared to be favorites of Allah?

                  Identification is not difficult.?

                  Please provide your criteria for such identification. Thanks.

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                    huruf
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                    One may like one prophet more than another or feel affinity with any of them, but objectively they are one. The risala is one. if we honour a prophet we honour all prophets, and if we do not honour one prophet, we do not honour any. As much as you cannot love your stomach and hate your fingers, unless you are nuts.

                    Salaam

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                      Peace Jafar, All

                      Gabriel, Ruhul Qudus
                      Mr. Blessing and Ms. Pardon
                      All of God's blessing is a great FAVOUR to EVERYONE / EVERYTHING..
                      All of His servants who stay true to His commandment..
                      Certainly.. as there are signs for those who understands..

                      bravo handshake

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                        Q_student
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                        One may like one prophet more than another or feel affinity with any of them, but objectively they are one. The risala is one. if we honour a prophet we honour all prophets, and if we do not honour one prophet, we do not honour any. As much as you cannot love your stomach and hate your fingers, unless you are nuts.

                        Salaam

                        Peace sister
                        We believe in all prophets and respect all prophets.But there is only Prophet who has been sent to All mankind till Day of judgement not others.
                        Regards

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                          unknownuser
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                          I do not know any prophets; they are all gone and only know what came to me is Qur?an.

                          Therefore, there is no way to distinguish between any of them, peace be upon all of them.

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                            TAJ
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                            Peace,

                            How would Allah be fair if Allah prefers one person over another without that one doing an extra job? If the two men were not doing the same, exact effort, then what Allah would do would not be called favoring. Allah would be rewarding each of them as much as each of them deserves. Favoring CANNOT exist in the calculations of Allah. Every person gets what he/she deserves, in reward or in punishment.
                            Those who think that Allah plays favorites, need to seriously reevaluate their whole understanding of Allah, Islam and deen ASAP.

                            peace

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                              How would Allah be fair if Allah prefers one person over another without that one doing an extra job? If the two men were not doing the same, exact effort, then what Allah would do would not be called favoring. Allah would be rewarding each of them as much as each of them deserves. Favoring CANNOT exist in the calculations of Allah. Every person gets what he/she deserves, in reward or in punishment.
                              Those who think that Allah plays favorites, need to seriously reevaluate their whole understanding of Allah, Islam and deen ASAP.

                              Peace,

                              The above CANNOT is your criterion of what is fairness.

                              God makes/does what He wills

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                                Peace

                                3428 (342

                                And (O Prophet,) We have sent you to the entire mankind as a' bearer of good news and a warner, but most people do not know

                                622

                                (622)He it is Who has raised a Messenger among the gentiles' *2 from among themselves, who recites to them His Revelations, purifies them and teaches them the Book and the Wisdom, *3 whereas before this they were indeed lost in manifest error

                                623

                                (623) And is also for those others who have not yet joined them. *5 Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
                                Regards

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                                  WayFinder
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                                  Peace sister
                                  We believe in all prophets and respect all prophets.But there is only Prophet who has been sent to All mankind till Day of judgement not others.
                                  Regards

                                  There is only one prophet whom God has spoken to directly...
                                  There is only one prophet whom God had strenghen with the Rooh Al Quds and who could cure the blind and turn a clay bird alive

                                  ....

                                  The list can go on like this... but its futile

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                                    TAJ
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                                    God makes/does what He wills

                                    Of course God makes/does what He wills, but based on what? On justness and fairness OR the color of your eyes!?

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                                      Peace,
                                      Respectfully.

                                      I would say Messenger Ibraheem. After all, he was tempted to kill his son. Then again, Nuh did see The Flood. Moosa split the sea. Isaa ascended. Prophet Muhammad visited Spanish peninsula....i don't know.

                                      But for me, personally, the best one is prophet Jusuf. The amount of patience he had .... to be thrown into the well, to be sold as a slave, to be nearly raped, to be thrown into jail wrongfully and stay there for decades - and still not to complain, lose nerves or get angry .... that is one True Muslim.

                                      Peace.

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                                        There is only one prophet whom God has spoken to directly...
                                        There is only one prophet whom God had strenghen with the Rooh Al Quds and who could cure the blind and turn a clay bird alive

                                        ....

                                        The list can go on like this... but its futile

                                        Peace ;
                                        You are right but those prophets were sent only to their own "nations" not all mankind.
                                        Regards

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                                          WayFinder
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                                          Peace ;
                                          You are right but those prophets were sent only to their own "nations" not all mankind.
                                          Regards

                                          To a single Nation or to All mankind... The challenge REMAINS the same for all... The difficulties they had facing the disbelievers were harsh and almost fatal... Ibraheem was even THROWN INTO THE FIRE... The message is the same... One God!

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