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HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU PERFORM SALAT?

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    Bigmo
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    This isn't about sunnah. Even Abraham prayed. Did he follow the 'sunnah' of the prophet Mohammed?

    I have a feeling nobody will answer the question how do you pray. There is a sensitivity about this.

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      THE SUNNAH SPECIFY SALAT TO BE FIVE TIMES DAILY(OBLIGATORY)
      HOWEVER SALAT CAN BE OBLIGATORY AND SUPERIGATORY
      SO WHAT DO YOU REALY MEAN

      In the end it does not matter since the duration is usually the same regardless. Praying 5 times could be the Sunnah but I can not see how it can be obligatory. There is no proof of that anyways. Neither in the Koran or the Torah or the Gospel. And if praying a certain way is obligatory then explain to me this

      2.177. It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces Towards east or West; but it is righteousness- to believe in Allah and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves; to be steadfast in prayer, and practice regular charity; to fulfil the contracts which ye have made; and to be firm and patient, in pain (or suffering) and adversity, and throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the Allah.fearing.

      Also explain to me this

      Qur?an 3113-115

      1. Not all them are alike Of the People of the Book

      are a portion that stand (for the right) They rehearse

      the Signs of Allah all night long, and they prostrate themselves

      in adoration.

      1. They believe in Allah and the Last Day;

      They enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong;

      and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works

      They are in the ranks of the righteous.

      1. Of the good that they do, nothing will be rejected of them;

      for Allah knoweth well those that do right

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        No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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        Dear brother
        We need to develop consensus on
        1Nature of Salaat
        2Times of the Salaat
        3How to perform

        Regards

        This will never ever happen (in the (near) future).

        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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          nsws1988
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          I have a feeling nobody will answer the question how do you pray. There is a sensitivity about this.

          Peace

          It depends whether Munzir Ali means how many times do we personally pray or how many times one should pray.
          From my understanding, I am currently praying at dawn, sunset and night. All on time. I also pray extra prayers anytime between dawn and sunset.

          God bless

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            MUNZIR_ALI
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            Peace

            It depends whether Munzir Ali means how many times do we personally pray or how many times one should pray.
            From my understanding, I am currently praying at dawn, sunset and night. All on time. I also pray extra prayers anytime between dawn and sunset.

            God bless

            I mean personally!

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              MUNZIR_ALI
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              I pray five times..but I don't recite attahiyat because it includes the name of the prophet muhammed(PBUH)

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                nsws1988
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                I pray five times..but I don't recite attahiyat because it includes the name of the prophet muhammed(PBUH)

                Same here. I only worship God handshake

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                  TAJ
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                  THE SUNNAH SPECIFY SALAT TO BE FIVE TIMES DAILY(OBLIGATORY)
                  HOWEVER SALAT CAN BE OBLIGATORY AND SUPERIGATORY
                  SO WHAT DO YOU REALY MEAN

                  You must have lost your way and found yourself here by accident! Oh and the caps! nope

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                    YAYA
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                    This isn't about sunnah. Even Abraham prayed. Did he follow the 'sunnah' of the prophet Mohammed?

                    DO YOU PERFORM THE SALAT OF IBRAHIM OR THE ONE THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD WENT TO COLLECT WHEN HE ASCENDING TO THE HEAVENS WHERE THE PROPHET MET OTHER PROPHETS AS HE ASCENDED THROUGH EACH OF THE SEVEN HEAVENS (MI'RAJ JOURNEY) hmm

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                      nsws1988
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                      DO YOU PERFORM THE SALAT OF IBRAHIM OR THE ONE THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD WENT TO COLLECT WHEN HE ASCENDING TO THE HEAVENS WHERE THE PROPHET MET OTHER PROPHETS AS HE ASCENDED THROUGH EACH OF THE SEVEN HEAVENS (MI'RAJ JOURNEY) hmm

                      You mean that story with the flying unicorn and the fairies and the leprechaun?
                      Yeah I read about that in some book. Wasn't the Quran though

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                        MUNZIR_ALI
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                        You mean that story with the flying unicorn and the fairies and the leprechaun?
                        Yeah I read about that in some book. Wasn't the Quran though

                        hey!, that story was in my 7th grade islamic studies textbook...I studied about it, though it's in hadhis! angel

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                          jsumbu
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                          I have been grappling with this issue since I reverted three months ago- Pray three? Pray five? Pray two?

                          Personally, I think it?s about your intention.

                          I perform three ritual prayers-before sunrise, mid-afternoon, and at night.

                          11114 And you shall hold the communion at the two edges of the day, during the near parts of the night. The good deeds take away the bad. This is a reminder to those who remember.

                          I believe that Contact-Prayer is more than prayers but rather a way of life, and the actual ritual I carry with me throughout the day as a tool to acknowledge that I couldn't be doing/seeing/hearing or anything if it weren't by God's Grace. He should be honoured and remembered constantly for that. It?s impossible to do, but it?s worth a shot.

                          And this is why I pray three times--I know this verse is referring to three private times but for me living in a town where there is no mosque-prayer is a private because I am alone.

                          2458 O you who believe, let those who are committed to you by oath, and those who have not yet attained puberty, request your permission regarding three times before the dawn communion, and when you put off your attire from the noon time, and after the evening communion. These are three private times for you. Other than these times, it is not wrong for you or them to intermingle with one another. God thus clarifies the revelations for you. And God is Knowledgeable, Wise.

                          I've come to accept that submission is to trust and seek guidance from the One who Knows. My opinion is when divisions/modifications pollute a spiritual system, the contact-prayers are lost. Jews and Christians don't really have them-at least in their original form. The development of the hadiths and sects, I think first took its tool on the Salaat and infected other aspects of the system (eg. Hijab, Dogs being Haraam etc). It?s great that we?re all trying to learn.

                          Jeanne

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                            nsws1988
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                            Peace

                            Welcome to Free Minds Jeanne!

                            I understand what you mean. It is difficult finding a place to pray in the daytime and when you do find a corner you can never fully concentrate and take your time. It isn't about rushing an empty ritual. It is a personal connection with God that has to come from your heart and soul and 2458 tells us when our private times are.
                            Do you pray traditionally?

                            God bless

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                              Alen
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                              JUST ASKING..

                              Peace,
                              Respectfully.

                              I believe there are two mentioned in The Quran - dawn and sunset, so i pray those but if there is time and occassion, i pray more. I pray shorter now that i don't have a permanent location but when i get one, then longer, God willing.
                              Needless to say, we should pray more and more.

                              Peace.

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                                jsumbu
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                                Peace

                                Welcome to Free Minds Jeanne!

                                I understand what you mean. It is difficult finding a place to pray in the daytime and when you do find a corner you can never fully concentrate and take your time. It isn't about rushing an empty ritual. It is a personal connection with God that has to come from your heart and soul and 2458 tells us when our private times are.
                                Do you pray traditionally?

                                God bless

                                Not exactly. I'm trying different things in order to figure out what is "correct." I perform the positions in the order they were prescribed and recite the few things I've committed to memory--Chapter 1, some of Abraham's prayers, the tashahund (not the one with Muhammed). Once in the sitting position between sujuds, I meditate on the letters at the beginning of the chapters(usually Alif, Lam, Mim). Then I read aloud a few verses at a time from the Quran. I spend just over ten minutes. I have no idea how many 'rakas' I do now.

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                                  Bigmo
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                                  Peace

                                  Welcome to Free Minds Jeanne!

                                  I understand what you mean. It is difficult finding a place to pray in the daytime and when you do find a corner you can never fully concentrate and take your time. It isn't about rushing an empty ritual. It is a personal connection with God that has to come from your heart and soul and 2458 tells us when our private times are.
                                  Do you pray traditionally?

                                  God bless

                                  Good point.

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