The quran is not sufficent!

Alen

how would you study law just by reading books without consulting who wrote the book and who it was sent with

thus the Quran is sufficient, its just that you cannot interprete the quran yourself without looking at the circumstances surrounding the comming down of various ayah; this you can only do my reading the conplilation of the words of who it was sent with
hope i have not boored you handshake

Peace,
Respectfully.

When you study The Law, you read the books, then you go to court and practice it. Who cares who wrote it? If the book is a lie, you'll know it - when they kick you out of the court, you'll know that you said something that made them upset or angry, means that your book is not good. Go back and find another book, right?

The Quran is sufficient. God says it is fully detailed. Not just detailed, fully detailed.
It doesn't matter which ayah came down first, which came third, which was last and wheremadinah or Makkah or Syria or Spain. The main and the most important thing is you must follow it. If God says do not kill, then do not kill.
If The God says do good, you don't say, but what is good and how do i do it? You know, i know, they know, we all know what good deeds are and how they are done, nobody is stupid here, we are all very smart. How many cell phones are being sold every day? Countless. If you know how to play games and watch movies and read and build a car, then you surely know how to buy a sandwich to a homeless or invite him or her for a sleepover and a shower, or how to buy them clothes or smile to people.

Tell me then which verse in The Quran is it that you don't understand and that you need some "scholar" or "imam" to translate or interpret it for you? Tell me which ayat?

Peace.

yeshuahamashiach

nsw you have no sence of humour. not may do these days, sad. You cannot even have a laugh these days they say laughter is the medicine for the soul. so many people take life too dam seriously these day. MMMM ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

nsws1988

nsw you have no sence of humour. not may do these days, sad. You cannot even have a laugh these days they say laughter is the medicine for the soul. so many people take life too dam seriously these day. MMMM ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Yeah because comparing Alen to a terrorist is soooooooo funny! rotfl
Offending people is such a good medicine for my soul and that will get me to heaven angel

yeshuahamashiach

I thought it was funny. LOL maybe it is a sick sence of humour but hey I had a laugh. ;D

nsws1988

I thought it was funny. LOL maybe it is a sick sence of humour but hey I had a laugh. ;D

At least you were honest that you are sick

yeshuahamashiach

yes but not in that way. but I am going to cancell my account anyway on here. hope you guys have fun bye

nsws1988

yes but not in that way. but I am going to cancell my account anyway on here. hope you guys have fun bye

No I meant the same definition of sick as you did. I didn't mean physically ill.
Oh don't worry we always have good clean fun here.
Bye!

yeshuahamashiach

tata

Alen

tata

Peace,
Respectfully.

Oh, come on, sister, stay, come on, you'll have more fun talking then being alone and in total absence there. Besides, nobody her ehates you and we all wanna just talk and hang out.

Peace.

yeshuahamashiach

Alen tell that to some of the wretches on here that all they want to do is pick a fight. I say let em fight among themselfs if they have to but I will have no part of it.

Rev_John

I have not seen anyone trying to pick a fight. I think you will enjoy it here.

nsws1988

No one's fighting.
I have read a few rude remarks from yourself but It's ok.

yeshuahamashiach

I am just depressed and spiritually flat at the moment

nsws1988

I am just depressed and spiritually flat at the moment

I am sorry that you are depressed and I am even more sorry if I made you more upset group

Rev_John

I am just depressed and spiritually flat at the moment

I have not found anything but friendship here. Perhaps this is just what you need to raise your spirits, being around others that love God as much as you do.

belH

Perhaps this is just what you need to raise your spirits, being around others that love God as much as you do.

Well said! But it is not True that All People in This Forum Truly Love God

Rev_John

Well said! But it is not True that All People in This Forum Truly Love God

That makes me sad

Alen

Alen tell that to some of the wretches on here that all they want to do is pick a fight. I say let em fight among themselfs if they have to but I will have no part of it.

Peace,
Respectfully.

Nobdoy is fighting and if you think that this is a forum about a fight, then i must say you're really wrong. I was just being myself at the mosque here in London and they kicked me out and wanted to kill me just because i believe different, so trust me, what we do on this forum is not a fight.

Let's start a dialogue and even though i appreciate your answers, try to make them short and direct.
I can see that you're educated and the fact that you have Faith is a big plus.
Stay.
You shouldn't be depressed, i'm not depressed and i have experienced and i'ms till experiencing such stuff you wouldn't believe.

Peace.

Rev_John

Peace,
Respectfully.

Nobdoy is fighting and if you think that this is a forum about a fight, then i must say you're really wrong. I was just being myself at the mosque here in London and they kicked me out and wanted to kill me just because i believe different, so trust me, what we do on this forum is not a fight.

Let's start a dialogue and even though i appreciate your answers, try to make them short and direct.
I can see that you're educated and the fact that you have Faith is a big plus.
Stay.
You shouldn't be depressed, i'm not depressed and i have experienced and i'ms till experiencing such stuff you wouldn't believe.

Peace.

I don't understand why they would want to kill you. What did you do (or say) that would upset them so much? - Remember I do not understand the differences.

Alen

I don't understand why they would want to kill you. What did you do (or say) that would upset them so much? - Remember I do not understand the differences.

Peace,
Respectfully.

I don't eat like them, i don't eat with my right hand, i lie down on my belly, i don't pray like they pray, i don't raise my hands like you see them and i don't believe in the authenticity of the hadith books, that was the last bullet. They took that as an insult and called a curse and death upon me. They have said that if this was Arabia, they would slaughter me, i told them that The Quran is Clear to all humans because God does not want hardship on us but they insisted that The Quran is not Clear to all of us, that we need to listen to imams and scholars who will explain The Word of God to us all - for a reasonable price of course.

I was discussing several subjects with them. I told them that ther eis no such a thing as chopping off a hand of a thief in Islam and according to The Quran and after i provided Quranic verses, they abandoned those and went to hadith. They also quoted Quranic verses that i provided and said that i don't understand them because i got the bad translation of The Quran.

They hate me because i can read and understand The Quran without hadith.
They want to have the upper hand and the fact is simple - they will never have the upper hand, hence the wars and losses Iraq invaded Iran, then Juwait. Two wars in Iraq from USA, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Chechnya, Somalia, Gaza, Palestine - what does this tell you?

That war only happens where there are idol-worshippers.

No war in USA, Europe. Now why is that? here's why Because potential Believers live there. People who accept God and follow His Book and who obey Him. Glory be to The Exalted God The Most Powerful, The Most Merciful, The Most Wise.

Peace.