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What brought me here?

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    MUNZIR_ALI
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    Why? Lots of Astophysicists, not many jobs.

    Because it is very interesting wow

    peace

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      Rev_John
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      Because it is very interesting wow

      peace

      It is very interesting, unbelievably so!

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        MUNZIR_ALI
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        I started wondering about space when i was about 8 years old and I got introduced to astrophysics when I was 12,...I am 14 this year! angel

        peace

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          Rev_John
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          Peace

          Firsty, welcome to the forum

          I am glad that you decided to introduce yourself and let us learn more about you.
          That is quite a story. I'm glad that it lead you here.

          This site is quite a hidden gem. If you know anyone who would be interested in joing this online community, then please spread the word.

          God bless

          I'm glad it lead me here too. I have learned that all Muslims are not like the ones we see on TV. I have also come to the conclution that Muslims like you, Christians like me and reformed Jews should be together fighting (well not physically) the bigots and liers in all religions.

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            I started wondering about space when i was about 8 years old and I got introduced to astrophysics when I was 12,...I am 14 this year! angel

            peace

            Well I wish you luck with your sudies, it is hard but very rewarding. I think you will enjoy it once you learn to look past the maths

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              MUNZIR_ALI
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              Well I wish you luck with your sudies, it is hard but very rewarding. I think you will enjoy it once you learn to look past the maths

              I thank you for your kind advice, May god reward you! pr

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                I thank you for your kind advice, May god reward you! pr

                I pray that God will place his hand upon you and guide you

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                  A bit late to welcome you, as you are quite established on the forum, but, nevertheless, welcome knowing you and thanks for the introduction about yourself, which is almost axactly what I, and many, relate to. I say "almost" because I may differ on one point. But leave the discussion now and let's just welcome you... handshake

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                    A bit late to welcome you, as you are quite established on the forum, but, nevertheless, welcome knowing you and thanks for the introduction about yourself, which is almost axactly what I, and many, relate to. I say "almost" because I may differ on one point. But leave the discussion now and let's just welcome you... handshake

                    I am interested, on what point do you differ? You may be right.

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                      Samia
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                      I am interested, on what point do you differ? You may be right.

                      I did not want to derail the thread; but it's this point

                      1. I do not believe in hell. If God is our father, then what father would condemn his children to hell Eternal damnation, etc.?

                      If one believes in paradise, hell is the balance for justice. If all students get an A, isn't this unfair on the hard workers? Don't parents punish their children? Some people turn the lives of others into hell for no reason, why would hell be too much for them? How would it be fair that all go to paradise?
                      This is also my argument against believing that hell and paradise/punishment and reward do not exist (non belief in the hereafter).

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                        I don't belive in hell as a concept. I think that for a believer in God, the separation from God would be hell in itself. If you think of a parent telling a small child to "go to your room, I don't want to see you or hear from you until you realise what you have done wrong", that would be hell for that small child. Then, when the child comes out and says, "yes I'm sorry, I realise what I did was wrong", the parent will forgive the child. This how I think of hell.

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                          I don't belive in hell as a concept. I think that for a believer in God, the separation from God would be hell in itself. If you think of a parent telling a small child to "go to your room, I don't want to see you or hear from you until you realise what you have done wrong", that would be hell for that small child. Then, when the child comes out and says, "yes I'm sorry, I realise what I did was wrong", the parent will forgive the child. This how I think of hell.

                          Ok. Now I understand what you mean. So, it's not the concept of punishment and reward that you do not believe in. Thanks for the explanation.
                          Rephrasing

                          "....which is almost axactly what I and many relate to

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                            Rev_John
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                            Perhaps I should have explained it that way to begin with. handshake

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                              Peace and welcome.

                              Reminds me a bit of the views of Jefferson et al founders of the US...

                              http//nobeliefs.com/jefferson.htm

                              "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."

                              -Thomas Jefferson (Notes on Virginia, 1782)

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                                Peace and welcome.

                                Reminds me a bit of the views of Jefferson et al founders of the US...

                                http//nobeliefs.com/jefferson.htm

                                "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."

                                -Thomas Jefferson (Notes on Virginia, 1782)

                                If you look at the Jefferson bible, he seemed to be on to something.

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                                  WayFinder
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                                  Salaamun Alaykum handshake

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                                    Rev_John
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                                    Salaamun Alaykum handshake

                                    Thank you (I think), What does Salaamun Alaykum mean?

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                                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                                      Thank you (I think), What does Salaamun Alaykum mean?

                                      It means "Peace unto you"

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                                        It means "Peace unto you"

                                        In that case, Thank you and may peace be with you to.

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                                          Peace be upon my brothers and sisters. I have been a seeker since an early age. I was raised a Roman Catholic, but I have rejected the idolotry within that church. I also reject that a man can be an intermediary between God and me. I truly believe that God is as close to me as each breath that I take. It is God that sustains me. I am currently a Presbyterian. It is my strong belief that there is One God. As a Christian, without God, Jesus would not have been able to perform his mighty deeds. Jesus even refers to God as 'our God,' on many occasions. He is also called 'the Son of Man' on multiple occasions in the Gospels. I can understand Islam's view that Jesus was a great prophet, but not God the Son, within the trinity.

                                          Islam has been a religion that I have been drawn towards for many years. However, the rituals and prostrations have been confusing and a barrier to me. It is my sincere belief that only God can cleanse me. I do not believe that following rituals bring us any closer to God. The one aspect of al Quran that vexes me is the fact that when the Archangel Jibreel provides the recitation to the Prophet, he refers to 'us' and 'we' and 'our' when referring to God, or the message given to Muhammed. I never understood this plural tense, given that Islam is the strictest of monotheistic religions. Islam condemns setting up partners with God. But how is it that Jibreel makes reference to a plurality? Is he referring to the angels?

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