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Are we punished before we go to heaven?

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    nsws1988
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    What message? just curious? ;D

    Peace

    Just a pm I sent to him. Quranic verses related to

    • Quran being complete
    • Not to follow hadeeths
    • Prophet Mohammed couldn't tell the future
    • Prophet Mohammed was not allowed by God to utter any other teachings
    • God explains the Quran
    • Messengers deliever God's message only

    God bless

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      MUNZIR_ALI
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      Peace

      • Prophet Mohammed couldn't tell the future

      God bless

      According to the hadhis the prophet once saw a dead jewess who was put in a coffin for burial...the prophet (according to the hadhis) said the women is burning in hell.. rotfl

      Can you believe this?

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        Rev_John
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        Why would he think that?

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          No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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          Why would he think that?

          It's fabricated. Prophet Muhammad did not actually say that. It's from Hadiths - the same thing that says that the "earth is carried on a bull".

          I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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            Rev_John
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            rotfl I understand now. Why are all these things made up by people about Muhammad, Jesus, and even God unless it be to control the people and stop them from thinking for themselves?

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              Peace Rev.

              The ahadeeth of the Schools of muslim thought are very much like not letting people think. It tells people how to eat, which hand to eat with, how to trim their pubic hair, when they should cut this or that. It is very detailed in alot of everyday activities one should do. It's like instead of living your life you're born with a book in your hand telling you what should be done.

              Joe

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                Rev_John
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                Peace Rev.

                The ahadeeth of the Schools of muslim thought are very much like not letting people think. It tells people how to eat, which hand to eat with, how to trim their pubic hair, when they should cut this or that. It is very detailed in alot of everyday activities one should do. It's like instead of living your life you're born with a book in your hand telling you what should be done.

                Joe

                But why can you not eat with your left hand?

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                  MUNZIR_ALI
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                  But why can you not eat with your left hand?

                  The hadhis says that, but I believe that we can eat with our left hand eat

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                    nsws1988
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                    They say that the left hand is meant for dirty things like cleaning yourself so you can't eat with it. I clean my hands thoroughly with soap and water and use both of my God-given hands to eat.

                    All these teachings are fabricated and are made out that prophet Mohammed gave these teachings even though these is proof in the Quran that the prophet Mohammed was not allowed to utter any teachings other than the Quran.

                    To muslims who do not follow the Quran alone, these hadiths are considered sacred and must be followed, which is why Alen was telling you that the men at the mosque kicked him out because he wouldn't accept the hadiths.

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                      They say that the left hand is meant for dirty things like cleaning yourself so you can't eat with it. I clean my hands thoroughly with soap and water and use both of my God-given hands to eat.

                      All these teachings are fabricated and are made out that prophet Mohammed gave these teachings even though these is proof in the Quran that the prophet Mohammed was not allowed to utter any teachings other than the Quran.

                      To muslims who do not follow the Quran alone, these hadiths are considered sacred and must be followed, which is why Alen was telling you that the men at the mosque kicked him out because he wouldn't accept the hadiths.

                      Yes I see that. But what would they do if the lost there right hand in an accident? You are lucky in a sense, from what I understand, at least the Quran and the hadiths are separate. In Christianity the whole bible has been changed to include similar things to your hadiths, much more difficult trying to work out which is orriginal and which was introduced to make it "fit"

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                        Yes I see that. But what would they do if the lost there right hand in an accident? You are lucky in a sense, from what I understand, at least the Quran and the hadiths are separate. In Christianity the whole bible has been changed to include similar things to your hadiths, much more difficult trying to work out which is orriginal and which was introduced to make it "fit"

                        I find the hadhis more confusing than quran!

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