Randi on God.
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Peace Diem,
Sorry for answering with a question, but do you think that dying is the worst that can happen to a person (or a baby)?
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Imagine someone on the day of judgement. "Lord, that baby died as soon as s/he was born and so is going to heaven sinless. Why did you not give me the same fate?"
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I like the way he/she implies human design "flaws" somehow disprove God.
Let's take away the "flaws" then... oh wait, that means perfect health forever, thus invalidating logic and laws of nature.... doh!
Reminds me of the question why is there evil in the world?
Let's take away evil then..... oh wait, that means no free-choice, thus invalidating logic and any purpose to life whatsoever.... doh!
Hilarious. Ahh, to be a philosopher eh.... tis the dream.
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The more you live the more you have chances of suffer and pain in this world and the more you have chances to goastray do evil deeds etc, that way the child is a blessed one. it is pure in front of GOD and will be rewarded for the purity, God gives us all equal, here + hereafter combined,
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The only problem with any theory of theodicy is that it requires a humanizing of God. There's a necessary assumption that man is more privileged than the atoms of which he is composed. No one would ever accuse God of lacking benevolence because of the damage a photon does to a particle during collision. Man suffers no more violence than any other element of God's creation. We should consider ourselves blessed to have awareness (pain) of our own momentum.
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The only problem with any theory of theodicy is that it requires a humanizing of God. There's a necessary assumption that man is more privileged than the atoms of which he is composed. No one would ever accuse God of lacking benevolence because of the damage a photon does to a particle during collision. Man suffers no more violence than any other element of God's creation. We should consider ourselves blessed to have awareness (pain) of our own momentum.
Unlike atoms and quarks, human beings have a mind that feels pain.
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If a baby dies it goes straight into the loving arms of Jesus in Heaven. but the parent if they are not saved will never see their child again. why you might say. It is becasue we are all sinners all of us, and the bible says that all of as are sinners and if anyone says they have not sinned they are a lier and the truth is not in them. whether you have stollen, lied, hated people, foricated (sex before marriage) calling people names, swearing it is all sin. and we deserve hell. God's Word says "The soul that sins shall die" This is why God sent Jesus to die in our place as a sacrifice for our transgressions. but people who die without Jesus in thier life of believing He is the Great I AM as Jesus said "Before Abraham I AM" and unless you believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead you will die in your sins. Jesus is the only door in which we all must enter. Jesus said "Enter in the narrow gate because the road to life is hard and only a few find it" Jesus also made it clear to not enter the broad gate because it is the way that leads to distruction and many will enter. Jesus also said on that day many will come to Him and say "Lord did we not prophecy in Your name and cast out demons, and perform miracles in Your name, and Jesus will plainly tell them. "Depart from me you who practice lawlesness" satans goal is to get more souls into hell. I like what Rynhart Bonke said once as he has a book out "Let us plunder hell to populate Heaven" he is an evengelist who is called by Jesus to preach the good news to Africa, and one million souls in one night and more go to his crusaides and get healed of thier diseases all in the Name of Jesus. Jesus healed on earth and He still does it today. Hallelujah. God bless you brother, and May God surround you with His Holy angels. Leanne
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I like the way he/she implies human design "flaws" somehow disprove God.
Let's take away the "flaws" then... oh wait, that means perfect health forever, thus invalidating logic and laws of nature.... doh!
Reminds me of the question why is there evil in the world?
Let's take away evil then..... oh wait, that means no free-choice, thus invalidating logic and any purpose to life whatsoever.... doh!
Hilarious. Ahh, to be a philosopher eh.... tis the dream.
How does perfect health invalidate logic, what law of Nature says that I cant simply split in two like an amoeba does when I'm about to do?
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peace Diem,
Since I made my post over 40 days ago, and you have replied in this thread after, have you been pondering over my statement since, but cannot come up with anything?
How does perfect health invalidate logic,
Perfect health implies nothing ever goes "wrong" with a human being, e.g. they cannot develop conditions such as high blood pressure/diabetes/etc, no virus/bacteria/fungus affects them, no mutations ever take place (if so, disproving evolution), they do not age etc. To have perfect health would require a re-writing of nature's laws, because as it stands, it would invalidate logic.
what law of Nature says that I cant simply split in two like an amoeba does when I'm about to do?
I'm not entirely sure of your point here, but the splitting you refer to is for simple cell organisms, not complex ones such as humans.
How does taking away evil mean no free-choice?
Excellent question. Any ideas? Let us know your thoughts then we can discuss further.
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peace Diem,
Since I made my post over 40 days ago, and you have replied in this thread after, have you been pondering over my statement since, but cannot come up with anything?
Perfect health implies nothing ever goes "wrong" with a human being, e.g. they cannot develop conditions such as high blood pressure/diabetes/etc, no virus/bacteria/fungus affects them, no mutations ever take place (if so, disproving evolution), they do not age etc. To have perfect health would require a re-writing of nature's laws, because as it stands, it would invalidate logic.
I'm not entirely sure of your point here, but the splitting you refer to is for simple cell organisms, not complex ones such as humans.
Excellent question. Any ideas? Let us know your thoughts then we can discuss further.
Oh please dont look deep when there is nothing there to see, I simply forgot about this thread. And please dont turn my question back on me, I was the one asking you for an answer... confused Why does a lack of evil mean there is no free choice. Isnt there supposed to be no evil in heaven, will there be no free choice there? Just some questions I have, you dont have to become aggressive, simply adding peace does not hide anything.
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Oh please dont look deep when there is nothing there to see, I simply forgot about this thread. And please dont turn my question back on me, I was the one asking you for an answer... confused Why does a lack of evil mean there is no free choice. Isnt there supposed to be no evil in heaven, will there be no free choice there? Just some questions I have, you dont have to become aggressive, simply adding peace does not hide anything.
Haha that is an interesting question, if a lack of evil constitutes no free choice, does that mean that there either is no evil, and no free will, or no free will, and instead evil in heaven?
And this baby would have experienced no free choice at all since she died at birth, and will thus in her entire existance not have made a single choice and gone to heaven. Could not then God just placed all souls in heaven without going through life just like this baby?
