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How does one recognize where one verse ends and another begins?

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    SAbboushi
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    May peace be with you-

    I was just reading 1990 which many translators indicate is part of a sentence which continues in 1991.

    And I understand that the Quran was recited for years before it was compiled and recorded into a written Quran.

    That made me wonder when one recites the Quran, is there any indication which marks the end of a verse? In other words, when the Quran was compiled and written, how would one know where each verse ended and the next one began? This needed to be known in order to assign verse #s...

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      Spiritual wellbeing upon you dear brother,

      The verse system is a later addition. Sentences do not end according to their ending but often keep running, sometimes for several verses. As have learned Arabic I noticed this phenomenon which people seem to like to keep silent about or simply fail to perceive. It causes a more stunted reading experience than one may think at first, to the extent that one may miss important details and overview of the context.

      I have considered making a translation of Quran in a more coherent style giving respect to the structure of sentences and a context and paragraph after that and skip the verse numbering, or just add small number tags where a new passage traditionally starts. Or if a series of passages belong to a context perhaps like 2234-243 for example.

      Arabic does not have any punctuation markers so one has to know to read and see when the narration stops the same topic. The original writing down on paper was likely having some kind of space or anything to see stops, but the "convenient" verse adders probably felt their numbers would substitute that. So knowing the grammar and being able to read and understand the language, at least to some extent, is needed to see the real sentence endings. It is one among an ocean of reasons why Quran is misunderstood.

      Be of one with God

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        Mazhar
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        The verse system is a later addition.

        The experts suggest that one of the criteria a book has to meet to earn title of a great book is that "The book has to speak from an important original setting."

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          May peace be with you-

          I was just reading 1990 which many translators indicate is part of a sentence which continues in 1991.

          And I understand that the Quran was recited for years before it was compiled and recorded into a written Quran.

          That made me wonder when one recites the Quran, is there any indication which marks the end of a verse? In other words, when the Quran was compiled and written, how would one know where each verse ended and the next one began? This needed to be known in order to assign verse #s...

          Particle "aen" is not a sentence starter; it is subordinating conjunction and is subjunctive particle. It is followed by a verb in Subjunctive mood.

          Codon

          During translation, which is the second major step in gene expression, the mRNA is "read" according to the genetic code, which relates the DNA sequence to the amino acid sequence in proteins. Each set of three consecutive nucleotides in mRNA molecule codes for one amino acid in a protein. Each group of three base pairs in mRNA constitutes a codon, and each codon specifies a particular amino acid (hence, it is a triplet code). The mRNA sequence is thus used as a template to assemble?in order?the chain of amino acids that form a protein.

          There are also "start-initiation" and "stop-terminating" codon. We will later identify the "the start-initiation codon" of a "gene" in the text of Grand Qur'aan which are words that can initiate a sentence; and will determine the point where a sentence ends since unlike English, Arabic language has no stop sign like full stop and question mark.

          c) The process for the near-accurate translation of Grand Qur'aan like DNA translation process.

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            Man_of_Faith
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            What the experts say is according to them. Is it not unrelated what you said anyway?

            Great book or not is probably depending on the person that reads it and their ability to appreciate what they read, and based on the literal quality.

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              Thanks for your posts--

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