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Why i think All of them,cristans,jews sabians ARE ISLAMISTS.

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    unknownuser
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    Salaams all,
    Why i think the Nazarenes,the jews and the sabians are following Islam/surrenderism.

    Waman yabtaghi ghayra al-islamideenan falan yuqbala minhu wahuwa fee al-akhirati minaalkhasireena

    If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).

    Inna allatheena amanoo waallatheenahadoo waalnnasara waalssabi-eenaman amana biAllahi waalyawmi al-akhiriwaAAamila salihan falahum ajruhum AAinda rabbihimwala khawfun AAalayhim wala hum yahzanoona

    Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

    Waqaloo koonoo hoodan aw nasaratahtadoo qul bal millata ibraheema haneefan wamakana mina almushrikeena

    They say "Become Jews or Christians if ye would be guided (To salvation)." Say thou "Nay! (I would rather) the Religion of Abraham the True, and he joined not gods with Allah."

    (So they had joined gods with God.)

    So the so called people are following ISLAM (SURRENDER) ,unless you agree with this statement you will be creating a contradiction in the words of Allah,wouldn?t you?

    Or is this wrong interpretation?Then please explain,thank you.

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      mquran
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      Salaamun alaikum brother Mz,

      I agree with you but WHO are the 'haadu' and 'nasara' and 'sabi'een' people ? I think when we find the answers to this, the lack of apparent contradiction will be very clear.

      thanks and peace.

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        unknownuser
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        I agree with you but WHO are the 'haadu' and 'nasara' and 'sabi'een' people ?

        Salaam,

        Exactly! The helpers? the guided? who are they? I think that is the question.

        Regards

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          hlatif
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          Salam bothers,

          I guess that the question that brother mz357 asks is probably this Since some of the people of the book will go to heaven then they must be muslims? How do the Ayats that are quoted reconcile with each other? (please correct me brother if I am mistaken)

          I think that these are great questions and I will try to tackle them from my personal perspective

          1- The most important factor to gain favor with GOD is IMAN=belief in the one GOD, and doing good. The most important factor into falling out of favor with GOD is KUFR=non belief or SHIRK= giving GOD partners.
          2- Not all Muslims are believers
          1.
          Qalati al-aAArabu amannaqul lam tu/minoo walakin qooloo aslamna walammayadkhuli al-eemanu fee quloobikum wa-in tuteeAAooAllaha warasoolahu la yalitkum min aAAmalikumshay-an inna Allaha ghafoorun raheemun
          The desert Arabs say, "We believe." Say, "Ye have no faith; but ye (only)say, 'We have submitted our wills to Allah,' For not yet has Faith entered your hearts. But if ye obey Allah and His Messenger, He will not belittle aught of your deeds for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."

          Therefore, some muslims may be out of favor with GOD.

          3-The Qu'an addresses the people that use the Qur'an as their book of law as muslims. However, the Qur'an does not indicate who the NON muslims are. The Qur'an indicates who the non believers are, who the Mushriks are but not the non muslims.

          4- The way I look at it is this ISLAM is the oldest religion on earth. It started with our father Adam and continued through a process of evloution through all the prophets, untill it reached it's most evolved for with the Prophet Muhammad and the advent of the Qur'an. ALL the prophets and their followers were muslims. Therefore, one can philosophically look at Chritians, Jews, Sabeans and may be others as Muslims who are in a state of Arrested development or Arrested evolution.

          5- Islam is submission. Deen is religion but it also means rule/judgement. The Ayat often say

          any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

          Could it be that the essence of submitting to GOD's rule= being Muslims is in "working righteously/doing good" ?

          And Salam

          Hussein

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            TheSabi
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            Islamisist? Me? whatever
            No seriously guys you have to do some more reading and less guess-work. This is a good starting place http//63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=49048&dgn=4

            Wa salaam

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