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Is the Quran an eloquent hoax?

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    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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    Perform? how do you do that? Just curious? angel

    peace

    If this was not a rhetoric question I will tell you. Otherwise I'll take it as one

    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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      MUNZIR_ALI
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      If this was not a rhetoric question I will tell you. Otherwise I'll take it as one

      I didn't Understand when you said perform.

      peace

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        No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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        I didn't Understand when you said perform.

        peace

        Not me, it was Rev. John D
        He is the one who is leading the ceremony. So, basically he is "performing it" - doing all the formalities, you know... "officiating it".

        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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          Rev_John
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          Well perhaps "officiate" would be more correct. I am a minister

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            MUNZIR_ALI
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            Lets get back to the subject guys!

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              unknownuser
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              There is scientific proof

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              You might want read some of these articles if you need to be convinced

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                MUNZIR_ALI
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                There is scientific proof

                http//www.phpbber.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2&sid=1ae7daed21efe50f83576c55d34ac920&mforum=emob

                You might want read some of these articles if you need to be convinced

                Whats this? I don't wanna read this! >(

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                  Rev_John
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                  There is scientific proof

                  http//www.phpbber.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2&sid=1ae7daed21efe50f83576c55d34ac920&mforum=emob

                  You might want read some of these articles if you need to be convinced

                  As a Christian I found that excessively insulting to Muslims. Especially the God-alone Muslims on this forum. There is no need for that form of insult to any religion.

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                    MUNZIR_ALI
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                    As a Christian I found that excessively insulting to Muslims. Especially the God-alone Muslims on this forum. There is no need for that form of insult to any religion.

                    bravo yes

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                      Samia
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                      Whats this? I don't wanna read this! >

                      As a Christian I found that excessively insulting to Muslims. Especially the God-alone Muslims on this forum. There is no need for that form of insult to any religion.

                      Here

                      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596576.msg207933#msg207933

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                        liquiddharma
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                        There is scientific proof

                        http//www.phpbber.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2&sid=1ae7daed21efe50f83576c55d34ac920&mforum=emob

                        You might want read some of these articles if you need to be convinced

                        That appears to be a white supremacist website. It has a thread category about a merger with "Stormfront"

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                          Rev_John
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                          That appears to be a white supremacist website. It has a thread category about a merger with "Stormfront"

                          They are not worth listening to

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                            MUNZIR_ALI
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                            They are not worth listening to

                            yes

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                              Rami
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                              Lets read a very bizzare verse

                              2144 We see the shifting of thy face towards the sky; We will thus set for you a focal point that will be pleasing to you "You shall set yourself towards the Restricted Temple; and wherever you may be, you shall all set yourselves towards it." Those who have been given the Scripture know it is the truth from their Lord. And God is not unaware of what you do.

                              First, what is the Restricted Temple?

                              The people of the Book doesn't acknowledge any temple in Arabia!

                              Jerusalem had no temple at the time.

                              And how da heck can you set yourself to the temple continuously?

                              What the hell??? brickwall

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                                Rami
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                                The same bad relation between the Quran and the Bible is also found between the NT and the OT.

                                http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx5EKaY1B8g&feature=channel_page
                                http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv0pgcHkrP0&NR=1
                                http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyHCxl-5a0A&feature=related
                                http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RjJXduuNlg&feature=related

                                Ofcourse that takes the Quran deeper into the abyss.

                                Peace.

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                                  Rev_John
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                                  Lets read a very bizzare verse

                                  2144 We see the shifting of thy face towards the sky; We will thus set for you a focal point that will be pleasing to you "You shall set yourself towards the Restricted Temple; and wherever you may be, you shall all set yourselves towards it." Those who have been given the Scripture know it is the truth from their Lord. And God is not unaware of what you do.

                                  First, what is the Restricted Temple?

                                  The people of the Book doesn't acknowledge any temple in Arabia!

                                  Jerusalem had no temple at the time.

                                  And how da heck can you set yourself to the temple continuously?

                                  What the hell??? brickwall

                                  nope

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                                    liquiddharma
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                                    Lets read a very bizzare verse

                                    2144 We see the shifting of thy face towards the sky; We will thus set for you a focal point that will be pleasing to you "You shall set yourself towards the Restricted Temple; and wherever you may be, you shall all set yourselves towards it." Those who have been given the Scripture know it is the truth from their Lord. And God is not unaware of what you do.

                                    First, what is the Restricted Temple?

                                    The people of the Book doesn't acknowledge any temple in Arabia!

                                    Jerusalem had no temple at the time.

                                    And how da heck can you set yourself to the temple continuously?

                                    What the hell??? brickwall

                                    The temple is inside you bro.

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                                      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                      Lets read a very bizzare verse

                                      2144 We see the shifting of thy face towards the sky; We will thus set for you a focal point that will be pleasing to you "You shall set yourself towards the Restricted Temple; and wherever you may be, you shall all set yourselves towards it." Those who have been given the Scripture know it is the truth from their Lord. And God is not unaware of what you do.

                                      First, what is the Restricted Temple?

                                      The people of the Book doesn't acknowledge any temple in Arabia!

                                      Jerusalem had no temple at the time.

                                      And how da heck can you set yourself to the temple continuously?

                                      What the hell??? brickwall

                                      What makes you think that the authenticity of the Quran is dependant on it's similarity to the Torah and the OT?
                                      Are you a Jew or a Muslim?

                                      Peace

                                      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                        Rami
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                                        What makes you think that the authenticity of the Quran is dependant on it's similarity to the Torah and the OT?
                                        Are you a Jew or a Muslim?

                                        Peace

                                        Do you have any other Torah?? So when the Quran says Torah, what does it mean?

                                        The Greek Septaguint is proof that the Torah we have today is the one they had even before Mohammed by 600 years.

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                                          Q_student
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                                          Do you have any other Torah?? So when the Quran says Torah, what does it mean?

                                          The Greek Septaguint is proof that the Torah we have today is the one they had even before Mohammed by 600 years.

                                          Peace
                                          Muslims are not bound to follow "Torah" because it was book of guidance only to "Bani Israeel".

                                          Regards

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