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Anthony Wallace - a messenger or not?

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    Rev_John
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    I guess Anthony has crashed in that position.

    He was a nice prophet. (

    Doesn't the Quran call Muhammad a messenger? or is that a mistranslation of prophet? In the bible it mentions many prophets but the only messengers mentioned are angels. So Anthony thinks he is an angel?

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      Meteora
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      He's called both since prophets are also messengers, though it's not the other way around. See Difference Between Prophet and Messenger

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        anthonywallace
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        Anthony's claims about himself

        O Mankind,

        Can any of you accuse me of sin? If you cannot, why wont you have faith in me? After all, I am telling you the truth. And didnt Moses give you the Law? Yet none of you obey it! So why do you want to kill me? Do you really think that you know me and were I came from?

        No one has gone up to heaven except the Son of Man, who came down from there. People who do evil things hate the light and wont come to it because it clearly shows what they have done. You dont know me or my Lord! You belong to this world, but I dont. Anyone who belong to God will listen to His message. But you refuse to listen, because you dont belong to Allah. I dont have a demon in me. And I dont want honor for myself. And no one who has faith in me will stay in the dark. Without me, no one can go to the Lord. The people of this world cannot accept the Spirit, because they dont see or know him. I do not accept praise from men, but I know you. I know that you dont have the love of God in your hearts. I have come in my Lords name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him.The only one who has seen the Lord is the one who come from Him. No one else has ever seen the Lord. You cannot come to me unless my Lord makes you want to come. And my time hasnt yet come, but your time is always here. The people of this world cannot hate you. They hate me, because I tell them that they do evil things. My time has not yet come, and I am not going to the Pilgramage and visit. I am not teaching what I thought up. What I teach comes from the One who sent me. I didnt come on my own! The One who sent me is Truthful, and you dont know Him. And you judge in the same way that everyone else does, but I dont judge. If I did judge, I would judge fairly, because I would not be doing it alone.

        As long as it is day, we must do what the One who sent me wants me to do. When night comes no one can work. And go on to the Pilgramage and visit for God. And youll go on now and leave your life of sin.

        How can you believe if you accept praise from another, yet you make no effort to obtain the praise that comes from the only God?

        Even if I do speak for myself, what I say is true! I know were I come from and were I am going. But you dont know were I come from or were im going. If you know me, you would know my Lord. And if you obey and keep on obeying what I have said, you truly are my disciples. You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. And if you were Abrahams children, you would do what he did. If I honor myself, it would mean nothing. My Lord is the One who honors me. You claim that He is your God, even thoe you dont really know Him. If I said I didnt know Him, I would be a liar, just like all of you. A If you really want to obey God, you would know if what I teach comes from God or from me.. And if I wanted to honor myself , I would speak for myself. But I want to honor the One who sent me. That is why I tell the truth and not a lie. And if any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone.

        You know these things, and God will bless you if you do them. The Spirit will show you what is true.

        Dont judge by appearances, judge by what is right. jedi

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          Meteora
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          Can any of you accuse me of sin?

          Yes, lying. I quote

          So why do you want to kill me?

          Who said anyone wants to kill you?

          Never mind your lie about being a messenger. nope

          It's also odd that you claim to be one while ignorant of the fact that all human beings, including messengers have their share of sins in this world.

          -M

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            No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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            Dont judge by appearances, judge by what is right. jedi

            OK, then you're not a messenger

            I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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              Rev_John
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              OK, then you're not a messenger

              bravo

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                anthonywallace
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                jedi

                You are not a beliver then. Oh yea? Then prove it. You have not believed. You only say you do wit your lyin mouth. For the faith has not yet entered into your hearts. jedi

                jedi jedi

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                  Rev_John
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                  jedi

                  You are not a beliver then. Oh yea? Then prove it. You have not believed. You only say you do wit your lyin mouth. For the faith has not yet entered into your hearts. jedi

                  jedi jedi

                  was that directed at me?

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                    Munzir
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                    Peace bro,

                    Your claim about yourself article's main theme is your assumption about a "Son of Man" who has come down from heaven to earth and again gone up to heaven which calls for some verifications

                    1. Who is this "Son of Man"? Who is this "Son" and who is this "Man"?
                    2. What is "heaven"?
                    3. Did this "Son of Man" go up to heaven physically?
                    4. So this "Son of Man" has not died physically here on earth and he took a short cut to heaven without dying?
                    5. Is this "Son of Man" a human?

                    God bless!

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                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                      OK, then you're not a messenger

                      bravo rotfl

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                        Meteora
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                        So anyway...I'd like to hear Anthony's story. Did Gabriel come to you, were you taken up to heaven, etc.? Tell us your story. )

                        -M

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                          procrastinator
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                          i dont believe anthony is a messenger, but lets not be so rude guys...

                          anyways @ anthony
                          what is your message?
                          what is your proof of messengership?
                          when did you become a messenger? how?

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                            Meteora
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                            ^Good luck getting an answer.

                            -M

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                              srotu
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                              If anthony can do this, so can I!

                              Henceforth, I AM BATMAN and no one can challenge that claim. So there. O0

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                                MUNZIR_ALI
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                                If anthony can do this, so can I!

                                Henceforth, I AM BATMAN and no one can challenge that claim. So there. O0

                                rotfl I am superman!

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                                  Rami
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                                  Me too.

                                  I am a messenger of God, and if anyone doesnt believe in me, he wil be struck by the Plague.

                                  And will be punished in Hell for ETERNITY.

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                                    MUNZIR_ALI
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                                    Me too.

                                    I am a messenger of God, and if anyone doesnt believe in me, he wil be struck by the Plague.

                                    And will be punished in Hell for ETERNITY.

                                    rotfl Nice to meet you, I am superman! police

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                                      Rami
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                                      rotfl Nice to meet you, I am superman! police

                                      Hi superman. It is a pleasure to meet you.

                                      Good luck with the apocalypse.

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                                        Meteora
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                                        And I'm Afro Samurai O0

                                        -M

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                                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                                          Hi superman. It is a pleasure to meet you.

                                          Good luck with the apocalypse.

                                          Thankyou!

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