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Adam and Eve - the quran says we came from a single creature

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    rashidala
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    Meteora,

    Never have I seen someone so disrespectful or rude towards another of God's books. May God forgive you and your heavy use of foul language and sentiments.

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      Rev_John
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      Meteora,

      Never have I seen someone so disrespectful or rude towards another of God's books. May God forgive you and your heavy use of foul language and sentiments.

      bravo bravo

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        Meteora
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        So the bible is from God? Please tell me you're joking...

        The Torah, Gospel and Quran are from God. The Talmud, Bible and Hadith are from men who weren't satisfied with God's books.

        At least, that's what I took from "insulting another of God's books" since I never did that.

        -M

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          Rev_John
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          So the bible is from God? Please tell me you're joking...

          The Torah, Gospel and Quran are from God. The Talmud, Bible and Hadith are from men who weren't satisfied with God's books.

          -M

          The Gospel is part of the bible.

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            Meteora
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            So then the bible is not the word of God. God's words happen to be mixed in with falsehood.

            -M

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              Rev_John
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              So then the bible is not the word of God. God's words happen to be mixed in with falsehood.

              -M

              There are a lot of falsehoods in the bible, it has been changed, bits added, bits taken away, throughout history.

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                Meteora
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                I know.

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                  No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                  There are a lot of falsehoods in the bible, it has been changed, bits added, bits taken away, throughout history.

                  Even worse the NT was written down by people after Jesus - they didnt even see him.

                  I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                    Meteora
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                    testing...

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                      Meteora
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                      testing...

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                        afridi220
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                        testing...

                        Testing the Fault Tolerance. of Moderators

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                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                          Testing the Fault Tolerance. Moderators

                          rotfl

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                            Rev_John
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                            Even worse the NT was written down by people after Jesus - they didnt even see him.

                            That is true too. Not much different from the old testament, it was all written many years after Moses

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                              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                              That is true too. Not much different from the old testament, it was all written many years after Moses

                              yes

                              around 200 BCE-200 CE

                              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                aynur
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                                Even worse the NT was written down by people after Jesus - they didnt even see him.

                                Same as the hadiths, yo.

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                                  MUNZIR_ALI
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                                  Same as the hadiths, yo.

                                  yes

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                                    Rev_John
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                                    Same as the hadiths, yo.

                                    bravo

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                                      Samia
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                                      It is the husband that divorces. He is not DIVORCED. Wife can seek divorce, which is to be given by the husband.

                                      That's not true. Divorce is given by a panel of mediators/judges. This is according to the qur'aan of course. Each of them is divorcing the other

                                      He is not DIVORCED

                                      This is pure language that does not reflect the reality. In the following verse, it's clear that the wife has the right to divorce her "nashez" husband, and that's why thre's no blame on the "two mediators" if they make peace between them
                                      4128

                                      If a woman feareth ill treatment from her husband, or desertion, it is no sin for them if they make terms of peace between them. Peace is better. But greed hath been made present in the minds (of men). If ye do good and keep from evil, lo! Allah is ever Informed of what ye do
                                      In the following two verses, although the subject seems to be "husbands who die and leave wives behind", it ends there withregard to husbands and the actual subjet of the verse is "widows". It does not say "wives whose husbands die".
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                                      (In the case of) those of you who are about to die and leave behind them wives, they should bequeath unto their wives a provision for the year without turning them out, but if they go out (of their own accord) there is no sin for you in that which they do of themselves within their rights. Allah is Mighty, Wise.
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                                      Such of you as die and leave behind them wives, they (the wives) shall wait, keeping themselves apart, four months and ten days. And when they reach the term (prescribed for them) then there is no sin for you in aught that they may do with themselves in decency. Allah is informed of what ye do.

                                      There's nothing to be done for widowers and divorcing men by their ex wives. That's why "women who die leaving husbands behind" and "divorcing women" do not appear in the qur'aan.

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                                        Wakas
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                                        peace Samia, all,

                                        I am coming to a different understanding of divorce in AQ. It is still early days, but I will post it. If a woman divorces then she may have to give up her dower or part of it, or this becomes a possibility (portion decided by court if disputed between the couple). If a man divorces, then the wife does not need to give up any or part of her dower, unless she agrees, and portion decided by her. Is there anything in AQ that goes against this understanding? To me, not only does this seem to fit with AQ, it also provides a safeguard for men who give a woman a dower for marriage, but the woman is a gold-digger type and simply wanted his money then divorce him after without a valid reason etc. Further, if we read this understanding into 4127-130 it makes perfect sense, in fact, it seems to be the only logical option that fits.

                                        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                          Wakas
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                                          I was expecting somewhat of a backlash with the above post. ;D

                                          Anyone?

                                          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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