Re: How did Music become HARAM?
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peace
its not about obsession, its about the music being constructive, if the songs have cuss words you are likely to cuss which is sinful. If the songs are about slapping somebody's you know who the thoughts will only lead to evil... I dont think there's anything wrong w/ listening to music a lot or excessively. As long as the person does his religious duties, remembers God frequently and observes righteousness
4144 O you who believe, do not take the rejecters as allies instead of the believers. Do you want God to have a reason against you?
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...DANG!
http//www.islamawareness.net/Music/prohibited.html
Everyone, please read that link, and realize how that EVEN IN THE SUNNI RELIGION MUSIC CANNOT BE DECLARED HARAM NO MATTER WHAT ANY SCHOLAR OR RANDOM SUNNI MUSLIM THINKS. The author of the article makes a rather good point all throughout, and I love how he brought up the hadith which states David was given a MUSICAL INSTRUMENT. If MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS are haram, then he would NOT be given one from GOD to ACTUALLY USE, and what's rather funny is that the radical hadithites say that only the simple tambourine is halal...such is their nonsensical opinion (or fatwa) regarding this matter.
The illogical imams also argue "THEY (tambourines) are HALAL ONLY DURING WEDDINGS AND ON EID!"
So David only played his instrument on weddings and on Eid? Yeah right. laugh
They'll also use the hadith where Ibn Abbas translates "idle talk" (lahwal hadith) to MUSIC and even swearing by it.
This again joins the rumble of ahadith conflicting one another on the issue of music, not to mention "lawhal hadith" in actuality means "baseless hadith" and actually refers to the hadith in discussion right now, since after all they conflict one another and are thus GARBAGE.
Some also say tambourines are only ok on weddings, and on Eid, and David's instrument has nothing to do with this issue! o
This is just a reflection of their bias towards and idolization of Muhammad that they're well known for. )
They also say this because supposedly in this case, since and only since the psalms/musical instrument given to David were "holy" and given to him by God, they are ok but EVERYTHING ELSE (but the tambourine rotfl) IS HARAM!
Case in point, they even claim men using them is haram because according to the "sunna" only women used them, therefore men would be imitating women if they used them. Amazingly retarded if you ask me. Why would you rest your fate and religion on these retards? laugh
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Salaam.
Listening to music is not hara, but it can become haram, if one gets consumed by it. Like, if the music becomes an obssession or soemthing or if a person starts to go over the limit.
Of course, Allah Most Merciful knows best.
Salaam.I agree that some rap music is bad, actually, very bad, and is being played by impressionable teenagers and pre-teens who then use the words, or act out the words in an inappropriate way. But most music is good for you.
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It is true that some music are let say on the edge, especially for teenagers e.g. have your heard about these suiciding type of song then teenagers go and suicide themself.
I think when you are spritually "weak", young (+stupid) and you listen loudly and repetedly these music you finnally want to suicide! O0 definetly not my case peace -
Peace,
Respectfully.There's plentu of music that isn't haram
Michael Bolton, said i love dyou, but i lied,
Leona Lewis, bleeding love,
Evanesence, everybody's fool,
Destiny's Child, survivor,
Eminem, ......all his songs.
Michael Jackson, ..... all his songs.Peace.
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LOL @ traditionalists trying to prohibit music using this verse
316 Among the people, there are those who accept baseless hadiths to mislead from the path of God without knowledge, and they take it as entertainment. These will have a humiliating retribution.
Meteora, that scholar kicks ass. O0
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In addition I wanted to say something about the above^ verse....God willing.
...how stupid is it to USE THAT WHICH 316 CONDEMNS, TO ELABORATE ON 316??? rotfl rotfl
Seriously, they use a baseless hadith "lahwal hadith" to ELABORATE on a verse CONDEMNING baseless hadith "lahwal hadith" even despite the fact..............................
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....... ..............................................Muhammad himself was forbidden to elaborate on anything in the Quran according to 7516-19.
Pretty sad.
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I agree that some rap music is bad, actually, very bad, and is being played by impressionable teenagers and pre-teens who then use the words, or act out the words in an inappropriate way. But most music is good for you.
yeah, I don't like "gangstar" rap too brickwall
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Anthony does. laugh
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rotfl
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Cuz dude's gangsta that's why. O0
And gangsta =/= messenger by default.
Anyway...the awesome Mohsin Khan. nope
"And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, or the Verses of the Qur'an) by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-fire)."
Guess he had to do that so someone doesn't suspect the hadith rotfl
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Cuz dude's gangsta that's why. O0
And gangsta =/= messenger by default.
Anyway...the awesome Mohsin Khan. nope
"And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, or the Verses of the Qur'an) by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-fire)."
Guess he had to do that so someone doesn't suspect the hadith rotfl
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rotfl
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Anyway...the awesome Mohsin Khan. nope
"And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, or the Verses of the Qur'an) by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-fire)."
Guess he had to do that so someone doesn't suspect the hadith rotfl
Well adding words into the Quran doesn't make it 'in the Quran' brickwall
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Anyway...the awesome Mohsin Khan. nope
"And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, or the Verses of the Qur'an) by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-fire)."
Guess he had to do that so someone doesn't suspect the hadith rotfl
LOL @ translation laugh
They dont see it anyway, dont worry
1745 When you study the Quran, We place between you and those who do not acknowledge the Hereafter an invisible barrier.
1746 We place shields over their hearts, that they should not understand it, and deafness in their ears. If you mention your Lord in the Quran alone, they run away turning their backs in aversion.
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I know the subject has strayed all over the place, but the genesis of prohibition of music in Christianity/Judaism/Islam is in Plato's Republic. In the Hebrew Bible David and the Israelites sing and play music as a religious act. But by the first century CE Jesus was relegated to hymns (according the Christian Bible). The reason being the influence of Platonistic thought.
Christians adapted his views on the human voice into Latin Chants. Jews into Nigunim. Muslims into vocalized dhikr..
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LOL @ translation laugh
They dont see it anyway, dont worry
1745 When you study the Quran, We place between you and those who do not acknowledge the Hereafter an invisible barrier.
1746 We place shields over their hearts, that they should not understand it, and deafness in their ears. If you mention your Lord in the Quran alone, they run away turning their backs in aversion.
Yup. Gotta make it clear to dem muslims that "idle talk" is singing and music and not the 6 "authentic" hadith collections! Cuz they need those to enter paradise...and stuff...yeah idle talk is music and singing rotfl got it brothar!!!!!???
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Yup. Gotta make it clear to dem muslims that "idle talk" is singing and music and not the 6 "authentic" hadith collections! Cuz they need those to enter paradise...and stuff...yeah idle talk is music and singing rotfl got it brothar!!!!!???
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bravo they sing too...but preach others not to sing brickwall