"quran"=best hadith
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What makes you so sure of that punk?
LOL!!! The fact that you become mentally and physcially weak and frustrated by turning into an abusive monster is not my problem at all and neither does it show any greatness or macho-ness!!! lol
It takes great effort to observe patience and perseverance. That is what greatness and macho-ness means.
LOL!! And you make me laugh with you sissy talk!!! lol
Having said that, it doesn't means that I am physcially weak. I would not hesitate to pick up my marchetti and chop some heads, but all for the purpose of justice and in serving Allah (swt).
Peace,
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YUSUFALI When thy Lord drew forth from the Children of Adam - from their loins - their descendants, and made them testify concerning themselves, (saying) "Am I not your Lord (who cherishes and sustains you)?"- They said "Yea! We do testify!" (This), lest ye should say on the Day of Judgment "Of this we were never mindful"007.173
YUSUFALI Or lest ye should say "Our fathers before us may have taken false gods, but we are (their) descendants after them wilt Thou then destroy us because of the deeds of men who were futile?"007.174
YUSUFALI Thus do We explain the signs in detail; and perchance they may turn (unto Us).007.175
YUSUFALI Relate to them the story of the man to whom We sent Our signs, but he passed them by so Satan followed him up, and he went astray.007.176
YUSUFALI If it had been Our will, We should have elevated him with Our signs; but he inclined to the earth, and followed his own vain desires. His similitude is that of a dog if you attack him, he lolls out his tongue, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls out his tongue. That is the similitude of those who reject Our signs; So relate the story; perchance they may reflect.007.177
YUSUFALI Evil as an example are people who reject Our signs and wrong their own souls.007.178
YUSUFALI Whom Allah doth guide,- he is on the right path whom He rejects from His guidance,- such are the persons who perish.007.179
YUSUFALI Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell They have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided for they are heedless (of warning). -
Never mind the fact Bukhari thinks "kowthar" is a river in heaven when in Arabic it simply means sustenance. Need I mention that he (as well as the other 6 authors of hadith) are Persian? laugh
Peace,
This is what scared the hell out of me. How could any Persian have the gall to try writing down alleged sayings of Muhammad when even Arabs did not attempt such a thing. God knows best what was in Bukhari & Co. hearts but the fruits of their labor have certainly turned out to be divisive and corrupting.
God Bless!
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I wonder why Prince hasn't been active since 2004...maybe because he began to realize the truth about hadith? laugh
Anyway...I was wondering if anyone knew what makes the sunnis believe "anyone who doesn't accept the second shahada Muhammad is God's messenger (as if he isn't dead, no offense Muhammad group is like Satan who only accepts the first shahada la illaha illallah.
I could talk about how ridiculous this sounds and really is but I'll pass. I just want to know where they get this belief from. If it's from hadith, I want to know which hadith (other than God's revelations, because I know it isn't there. In fact according to God's revelations, the second shahada is the one of the hypocrites). o
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I wonder why Prince hasn't been active since 2004...maybe because he began to realize the truth about hadith? laugh
Anyway...I was wondering if anyone knew what makes the sunnis believe "anyone who doesn't accept the second shahada Muhammad is God's messenger (as if he isn't dead, no offense Muhammad group) is like Satan who only accepts the first shahada la illaha illallah.
I could talk about how ridiculous this sounds and really is but I'll pass. I just want to know where they get this belief from. If it's from hadith, I want to know which hadith (other than God's revelations, because I know it isn't there. In fact according to God's revelations, the second shahada is the one of the hypocrites). o
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Repent &
Narrated Abu Ma'bad
(the slave of Ibn Abbas) Allah's Apostle said to Muadh when he sent him to Yemen, "You will go to the people of the Scripture. So, when you reach there, invite them to testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah, and that Muhammad is His Apostle. And if they obey you in that, tell them that Allah has enjoined on them five prayers in each day and night. And if they obey you in that tell them that Allah has made it obligatory on them to pay the Zakat which will be taken from the rich among them and given to the poor among them. If they obey you in that, then avoid taking the best of their possessions, and be afraid of the curse of an oppressed person because there is no screen between his invocation and Allah." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 24, Number 573)... Abu Dhar went to the Mosque, where some people from Quraish were present, and said, 'O folk of Quraish! I testify that none has the right to be worshipped except Allah, and I (also) testify that Muhammad is Allah's Slave and His Apostle.' (Hearing that) the Quraishi men said, 'Get at this Sabi (i.e. Muslim)!' (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 725)
The only problem with this argument is that it fails to mention that the Shahadah found in the so-called sound narrations, found in those hadiths that are part of the sahih collections of Al-Bukhari and Muslim, do not limit the confession to Allah's unity and Muhammad's apostleship. There are other narrations that actually expand the creed to include a confession regarding the exalted status of Jesus and belief in the reality of the afterlife!
Narrated 'Ubada
The Prophet said, "If anyone TESTIFIES that None has the right to be worshipped but Allah Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Slave and His Apostle, and that Jesus is Allah's Slave and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit from Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, Allah will admit him into Paradise with the deeds which he had done even if those deeds were few." (Junada, the sub-narrator said, " 'Ubada added, 'Such a person can enter Paradise through any of its eight gates he likes." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 644)It is narrated on the authority of Ubadah b. Samit that the messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) observed HE WHO SAID "There is no god but Allah, He is One and there is no associate with Him, that Muhammad is his servant and His messenger, that Christ is servant and the son of His slave-girl and he (Christ) His word which He communicated to Mary and is His Spirit, that Paradise is a fact and Hell is a fact," Allah would make him (he who affirms these truths enter Paradise through any one of its eight doors which he would like. (Sahih Muslim, Book 1, Number 0043)
The foregoing shows that Sunni Islam?s REAL and COMPLETE Shahadah must include a profession of faith in Jesus? special relationship to God, i.e. that every Muslim must bear witness, testify that Jesus is the servant of God, the Word of God, and the Spirit of God. It must also include a profession of belief in heaven and hell. In other words, Sunni Islam?s Shahadah would look something like this
I bear witness that there is no god but Allah.
I bear witness that Muhammad is his slave and messenger.
I bear witness that Jesus is his Servant, Word, Spirit, and the son of his slave-girl.
And I bear witness Paradise and Hell are true/real.http//www.answering-christianity.com/bassam_zawadi/sunni_shahada_rebuttal.htm
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.....OH...MY...........FREAKING.......BUDDHA.........
Are you serious? Sunni Islam is garbage. That's it really. They can't even get their shahada right according to the Quran + Hadith combination pack they have, yet they go around attacking people for not mentioning the whole of what happens to be part of what their true shahada is supposed to be according to the Quran + Hadith...well...actually just the hadith because the Quran says it's "la illaha illa la" (there is no God but God).
Every day I learn something sad about Hislam. rotfl
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.....OH...MY...........FREAKING.......BUDDHA.........
Are you serious? Sunni Islam is garbage. That's it really. They can't even get their shahada right according to the Quran + Hadith combination pack they have yet they go around attacking people for not mentioning the whole of what happens to be part of what their true shahada is accoring to the Quran + Hadith pack...well...actually just the hadith because the Quran says it's "la illaha illa la" (there is no God but God).
Every day I learn something sad about Hislam. rotfl
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Just a quick question, I know what hadiths are, but what is the literal translation of the word hadith?
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Quote from herbman on July 09, 2009, 034058 PM
hadith= tells/storiesThank you, quite self explanatory then? Stories without any basis in truth.
This is NOT the meaning of word hadith. This is the perception of those modernists who are the other side of the fake coin of traditionalists. Both traditionalists and modernists actually want to avoid the Qur'aan, from within they are one and the same thing, on appearance line of argument is different, since client of both two is different.
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From
http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htmHa-Dal-Thaa = something new/recent, it (a thing) came into existence, began to be, originated, had a beginning, existed newly for the first time, to relate discourse,
story/report/narration/statement/tale.
Lane "hadathu - a novelty or new thing, an innovation, a thing not known before, and particularly relating to El-Islam (i.e. to matters of religious doctrines or practices or the like)"
