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A Rebuttal to "Disproving Islam With Sperm" Video

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    Rev_John
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    An '08 video by zkueker88 http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=okIg5qSyPCo

    I could have sworn I commented on that with a link that had the refutation to it (the fallacy of his stems from a false translation of the Quran he has). I thought I did that last year, but my response isn't there...maybe he deleted it. ;D

    I was wondering if anyone would care to explain why his argument is completely baseless. After all, I don't think there's a single falsehood in the Quran.

    -M

    This guy is assuming that the drop is sperm. An obvious question would be; where in the Quran does it say that the "drop" is sperm? As far as I know, it doesn't! (and all that coming from a Christian, Yay! I'm becoming a Muslim Christian rotfl)

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      I think that's the jist of it. It says drop but nowhere does it say this drop is sperm or its equivalent.

      -M

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        Rev_John
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        I think that's the jist of it. It says drop but nowhere does it say this drop is sperm or its equivalent.

        -M

        That is one of the big problems keeping religions apart, too many people assume meanings that are not there.

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          Prince
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          ^^^^^Ditto!

          PEACE

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            MUNZIR_ALI
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            This guy is assuming that the drop is sperm. An obvious question would be; where in the Quran does it say that the "drop" is sperm? As far as I know, it doesn't! (and all that coming from a Christian, Yay! I'm becoming a Muslim Christian rotfl

            Musistian or chrislim LOL

            peace

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              nsws1988
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              This guy is assuming that the drop is sperm. An obvious question would be; where in the Quran does it say that the "drop" is sperm? As far as I know, it doesn't! (and all that coming from a Christian, Yay! I'm becoming a Muslim Christian rotfl)

              I was going to ask about this issue then forgot. No need now handshake
              So any idea what this drop is? hmm

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                afridi220
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                I was going to ask about this issue then forgot. No need now handshake
                So any idea what this drop is? hmm

                We created man from a mingled drop to test him, and We made him hearing and seeing. (Qur'an, 76 2)

                Does man reckon he will be left to go on unchecked? Was he not a drop of ejaculated sperm? (Qur'an, 75 36-37)

                He has created all things in the best possible way. He commenced the creation of man from clay; then produced his seed from an extract of discarded fluid. (Qur'an, 32 7-

                Now let man but think from what he is created! He is created from a drop emitted--proceedings from between the backbone and the ribs." (Surah 865-7)

                How Man is created is a Proof of Allah's Ability to Return Him to Him

                Allah says,

                "So, let man see from what he is created!"

                This is alerting man to the weakness of his origin from which he was created. The intent of it is to guide man to accept (the reality of) the Hereafter, because whoever is able to begin the creation then he is also able to repeat it in the same way. This is as Allah says,

                "And He it is Who originates the creation, then He will repeat it; and this is easier for Him." (3027)

                Then Allah says,

                "He is created from a water gushing forth."

                meaning, the sexual fluid that comes out bursting forth from the man and the woman. Thus, the child is produced from both of them by the permission of Allah. Due to this Allah says,

                "Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs."

                meaning, the backbone (or loins) of the man and the ribs of the woman, which is referring to her chest. Shabib bin Bishr reported from Ikrimah who narrated from Ibn Abbas that he said,

                "Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs."

                "The backbone of the man and the ribs of the woman. It (the fluid) is yellow and fine in texture. The child will not be born except from both of them (i.e., their sexual fluids).'' Concerning Allah's statement,

                "Verily, He is Able to bring him back (to life)!"

                This means that He is able to return this man that is created from fluid gushed forth. In other words, He is able to repeat his creation and resurrect him to the final abode. This is clearly possible, because whoever is able to begin the creation then he surely is able to repeat it. Indeed Allah has mentioned this proof in more than one place in the Qur'an.

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                  "Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs."

                  meaning, the backbone (or loins) of the man and the ribs of the woman, which is referring to her chest. Shabib bin Bishr reported from Ikrimah who narrated from Ibn Abbas that he said,

                  "Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs."

                  "The backbone of the man and the ribs of the woman. It (the fluid) is yellow and fine in texture. The child will not be born except from both of them (i.e., their sexual fluids).''

                  I still don't get it. What does the father's backbone and mother's chest have anything to do with it?

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                    "Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs."

                    meaning, the backbone (or loins) of the man and the ribs of the woman, which is referring to her chest. Shabib bin Bishr reported from Ikrimah who narrated from Ibn Abbas that he said,

                    "Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs."

                    "The backbone of the man and the ribs of the woman. It (the fluid) is yellow and fine in texture. The child will not be born except from both of them (i.e., their sexual fluids).''

                    I still don't get it. What does the father's backbone and mother's chest have anything to do with it?

                    Acctualy that explanition is wrong.i thought you may like some hadith for explanation.

                    Semen is stored in vesicles that lie in the abdomen. From there it is ejaculated during coitus. people still think that the ejaculate comes from the testicles.

                    The Quran does not use the word ?sperm?, nor the word ?semen?, nor does it say anything about the production of semen or sperm.

                    The semen contains many things. Between 95 to 98% of it consists of fructose, prostaglandin hormones, metal and salt ions, lipids, steroid hormones, enzymes, basic amines, and amino acids. All those are produced from the glands located in abdomen. Between 2 to 5% of it consists of the sperms produced in the testicles.

                    It is aid that

                    The constituents of the formation of the sperm of the man and the egg of the woman derive from between the backbone and the ribs; its beginning and origin is from between the backbone and the ribs.?
                    god knows bettr pr

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                      Acctualy that explanition is wrong.i thought you may like some hadith for explanation.

                      Semen is stored in vesicles that lie in the abdomen. From there it is ejaculated during coitus. people still think that the ejaculate comes from the testicles.

                      The Quran does not use the word ?sperm?, nor the word ?semen?, nor does it say anything about the production of semen or sperm.

                      The semen contains many things. Between 95 to 98% of it consists of fructose, prostaglandin hormones, metal and salt ions, lipids, steroid hormones, enzymes, basic amines, and amino acids. All those are produced from the glands located in abdomen. Between 2 to 5% of it consists of the sperms produced in the testicles.

                      Now that makes a lot more sense. Thanks!

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                        Now that makes a lot more sense. Thanks!

                        Welcome hail

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