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    yeshuahamashiach
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    yes I believe satan will posses the antichrist under a one world goverment, Jesus told me in 2006 through a supernatural dream that He is coming very very soon and to be ready. The rapture of the church will be raptured out of here to Heaven then Jesus will come back with His saints and all of the Holy angels and rule on the throne of David for 1000 years then there will be a new heaven and a new earth as God will burn this earth after the milemium the new Jerusalem will come from Heaven what a blessed assurance. when you get a chance google in Worthy is the Lamb and play it it is an awsome song about King Jesus D

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      Ahmad_Bilal
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      Peace,

      How was Jesus a "king"? What did he ever rule?

      According to the Bible, Jesus told "John" (if he really existed) that he was coming "soon" and "quickly", and that was over 1900 years ago! So, do we have to wait another 1900 years for your dream to be fulfilled too? Sorry, but to me, that just sounds unrealistic and fabricated... Besides, I thought you said Jesus would rule over the entire world; yet you're now saying that Jesus will rule the "throne of David". Did King David rule the entire world? Did King David preside over a "heavenly" kingdom? The answer to both of these questions is NO! David and Solomon presided over the Israelites, and they were kings over one nation, not the entire world. Their kingships were physical, not spiritual or heavenly... Can you please explain the contradictions in these Christian doctrines?

      I'm not trying to openly debate with you on this issue, unless this is what you want. I just want to know the truth, and I don't know any Christians who've been able to explain this simple concept...

      Peace,

      Ahmad

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        Rev_John
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        Peace,

        How was Jesus a "king"? What did he ever rule?

        According to the Bible, Jesus told "John" (if he really existed) that he was coming "soon" and "quickly", and that was over 1900 years ago! So, do we have to wait another 1900 years for your dream to be fulfilled too? Sorry, but to me, that just sounds unrealistic and fabricated... Besides, I thought you said Jesus would rule over the entire world; yet you're now saying that Jesus will rule the "throne of David". Did King David rule the entire world? Did King David preside over a "heavenly" kingdom? The answer to both of these questions is NO! David and Solomon presided over the Israelites, and they were kings over one nation, not the entire world. Their kingships were physical, not spiritual or heavenly... Can you please explain the contradictions in these Christian doctrines?

        I'm not trying to openly debate with you on this issue, unless this is what you want. I just want to know the truth, and I don't know any Christians who've been able to explain this simple concept...

        Peace,

        Ahmad

        Christians are like Muslims, there are many, many different denominations of Christianity, all believing slightly different things. Some Christians would ask exactly the same question as you, some would just accept it unquestionally others will try to explain it, and yet others will say you are going to hell for questioning the doctrine. Which one is right? Who knows?

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          Jafar
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          Christians are like Muslims, there are many, many different denominations of Christianity, all believing slightly different things. Some Christians would ask exactly the same question as you, some would just accept it unquestionally others will try to explain it, and yet others will say you are going to hell for questioning the doctrine. Which one is right? Who knows?

          Even some Muslims believed the exact same things as the Christians you mentioned above.
          Only the names are slightly different, Jesus = Isa, Anti-Christ = Dajjal.
          And they put 'additional character' to the myth named "Imam Mehdi".. supposedly descendant of Muhammad..
          They believe; Jesus will "fly down" from Heaven, escorted by Angels, join up with Imam Mehdi's ranks and fought war against the Dajjal / Anti-Christ..

          The story is nowhere being mentioned in the Quran, the sources is (yes you guessed it right) from the Hadiths..

          People had the right to believe on whatever myth/legends they wanted.. but Truth will always stands out clear from Error..

          PS To Yeshua did the real Yeshua you met in your supernatural dream gives you a specific date? or perhaps an itinerary of his travel here to earth? Give him some tips Don't travel here with those NASA's wrecks.. Jesus Christ! it's totally not safe!
          Kindly forward to him as well this Jesus when is exactly this 'very soon'? can you speak bluntly? we had enough of your parables! many people had committed suicides because of your myth!

          Salam / Peace

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            yeshuahamashiach
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            hi Jaffa, Jesus said I will be rapured alive, but gave me no dates, no man knows the day or hour. He will come back at the battle of Armagedon and save Israel who had rejected HIM. by the time Israel knows the antichrist(world leader)is not the christ they will flee from his wrath and call out to Jesus and Jesus will come back. but before Yeshua returns He comes back for His bride which is the Church and there will be the Weding Super of the Lamb I cannot wait. so to tell you NO Jesus never gave me any dates because Jesus does not know, but the Father only, I was told He was coming very very soon and to be ready

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              Jafar
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              hi Jaffa, Jesus said I will be rapured alive, but gave me no dates, no man knows the day or hour. He will come back at the battle of Armagedon and save Israel who had rejected HIM. by the time Israel knows the antichrist(world leader)is not the christ they will flee from his wrath and call out to Jesus and Jesus will come back. but before Yeshua returns He comes back for His bride which is the Church and there will be the Weding Super of the Lamb I cannot wait. so to tell you NO Jesus never gave me any dates because Jesus does not know, but the Father only, I was told He was coming very very soon and to be ready

              Mate! Your Jesus has came back!

              http//www.jpnn.com/uploads/berita/dir30072009/img30072009267841.jpg

              I'M BACK DUDE!

              All people should recognize me, I am the Jesus Christ!
              -- Ivan Santoso a.k.a Jesus Christ

              Not in Jerusalem but in Cirebon, Indonesia!
              Since you're living in the 'down under', he's closer to you now mate!

              An article on this.. originally written in Indonesians, translated to English by Google.

              http//translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=id&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftidakmenarik.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F07%2F30%2Fnabi-isa-muncul-di-cirebon-minta-kiblat-diubah-sebut-sby-sebagai-pengikut%2F&sl=id&tl=en&history_state0=

              Interesting quote..

              "After living in the sky long enough, said Jesus, a few years ago he's asked by the LORD whether He wanted to live in earth, which He agreed. Jesus descent to the earth first in China, and he went on to Japan, Korea, Europe before finally flying down to Cirebon, Indonesia"

              Salam / Peace

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                Rev_John
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                Mate! Your Jesus has came back!

                http//www.jpnn.com/uploads/berita/dir30072009/img30072009267841.jpg

                I'M BACK DUDE!

                All people should recognize me, I am the Jesus Christ!
                -- Ivan Santoso a.k.a Jesus Christ

                Not in Jerusalem but in Cirebon, Indonesia!
                Since you're living in the 'down under', he's closer to you now mate!

                An article on this.. originally written in Indonesians, translated to English by Google.

                http//translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=id&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftidakmenarik.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F07%2F30%2Fnabi-isa-muncul-di-cirebon-minta-kiblat-diubah-sebut-sby-sebagai-pengikut%2F&sl=id&tl=en&history_state0=

                Interesting quote..

                "After living in the sky long enough, said Jesus, a few years ago he's asked by the LORD whether He wanted to live in earth, which He agreed. Jesus descent to the earth first in China, and he went on to Japan, Korea, Europe before finally flying down to Cirebon, Indonesia"

                Salam / Peace

                rotfl

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                  MUNZIR_ALI
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                  Mate! Your Jesus has came back!

                  http//www.jpnn.com/uploads/berita/dir30072009/img30072009267841.jpg

                  I'M BACK DUDE!

                  All people should recognize me, I am the Jesus Christ!
                  -- Ivan Santoso a.k.a Jesus Christ

                  Not in Jerusalem but in Cirebon, Indonesia!
                  Since you're living in the 'down under', he's closer to you now mate!

                  An article on this.. originally written in Indonesians, translated to English by Google.

                  http//translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=id&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftidakmenarik.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F07%2F30%2Fnabi-isa-muncul-di-cirebon-minta-kiblat-diubah-sebut-sby-sebagai-pengikut%2F&sl=id&tl=en&history_state0=

                  Interesting quote..

                  "After living in the sky long enough, said Jesus, a few years ago he's asked by the LORD whether He wanted to live in earth, which He agreed. Jesus descent to the earth first in China, and he went on to Japan, Korea, Europe before finally flying down to Cirebon, Indonesia"

                  Salam / Peace

                  yay yay jesus is back yay yay

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                    Shumali
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                    I wonder How many people will accept this "non white" Jesus. confused

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                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                      yes I believe satan will posses the antichrist under a one world goverment, Jesus told me in 2006 through a supernatural dream that He is coming very very soon and to be ready. The rapture of the church will be raptured out of here to Heaven then Jesus will come back with His saints and all of the Holy angels and rule on the throne of David for 1000 years then there will be a new heaven and a new earth as God will burn this earth after the milemium the new Jerusalem will come from Heaven what a blessed assurance. when you get a chance google in Worthy is the Lamb and play it it is an awsome song about King Jesus

                      THis is the same story that traditional muslims teach us!

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                        Rev_John
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                        I wonder How many people will accept this "non white" Jesus. confused

                        bravo rotfl

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                          Jafar
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                          I wonder How many people will accept this "non white" Jesus. confused

                          Jesus was 'white'? o
                          It was told that he spent 40 days fasting in the hot sunny dessert.
                          There's no way he would survive if he doesn't had enough 'melanin'/ 'pigment' (which bring 'darkness' colour to the skin) to protect his skin..
                          And there were no 'sunscreen' lotion during his lifetime...

                          Some 'scientists' believed the 'real' Jesus might looks more or less like this..

                          http//new.rejesus.co.uk/images/area_uploads/faces/faces_bbc.jpg

                          Hmm... looks a lot closer to the guy above huh? ;D
                          Besides Jesus had a strong track record of being 'rejected' anyway.. so I guess what else is new, right Jesus?

                          Salam / Peace

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                            MUNZIR_ALI
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                            Jesus was 'white'? o
                            It was told that he spent 40 days fasting in the hot sunny dessert.
                            There's no way he would survive if he doesn't had enough 'melanin'/ 'pigment' (which bring 'darkness' colour to the skin) to protect his skin..
                            And there were no 'sunscreen' lotion during his lifetime...

                            Some 'scientists' believed the 'real' Jesus might looks more or less like this..

                            http//new.rejesus.co.uk/images/area_uploads/faces/faces_bbc.jpg

                            Hmm... looks a lot closer to the guy above huh? ;D
                            Besides Jesus had a strong track record of being 'rejected' anyway.. so I guess what else is new, right Jesus?

                            Salam / Peace

                            http//www.utilitarianism.com/jesus-christ.jpg
                            Jesus looks like this according to traditional christians! )

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                              Rev_John
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                              http//www.utilitarianism.com/jesus-christ.jpg
                              Jesus looks like this according to traditional christians!

                              rotfl Yes, that is exactly what most of them think rotfl

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                                No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                http//www.utilitarianism.com/jesus-christ.jpg
                                Jesus looks like this according to traditional christians!

                                Comes from the Pagan Romans' influence. Jesus' alleged appearance was stolen from Tammuz (part of the Babylonian trinity).

                                I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                  Ahmad_Bilal
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                                  Peace,

                                  The real Jesus was probably extremely dark skinned. The Christian Bible says that he and his family fled to Egypt to escape death, since they would intermix with the Egyptians and avoid being killed... As history states, this was BEFORE the complete colonization of Europeans into Egypt, and most of the Egyptian people were EXTREMELY DARK, and they called themselves "Kemites" (citizens of Kemet). In order for Jesus to intermix with them, he and his family would've had to have been extremely dark too, or they would've been easily recognized and identified (a white family among an entire country full of black people), and he would've been killed by the Roman emperor... That's just one example of how the Bible implies that Jesus was definately not white, but he was black skinned, certainly darker than the Egyptians of today. Today's Ashkenazic Jews don't even bear a resemblance to Jesus...

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                                    Rev_John
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                                    Peace,

                                    The real Jesus was probably extremely dark skinned. The Christian Bible says that he and his family fled to Egypt to escape death, since they would intermix with the Egyptians and avoid being killed... As history states, this was BEFORE the complete colonization of Europeans into Egypt, and most of the Egyptian people were EXTREMELY DARK, and they called themselves "Kemites" (citizens of Kemet). In order for Jesus to intermix with them, he and his family would've had to have been extremely dark too, or they would've been easily recognized and identified (a white family among an entire country full of black people), and he would've been killed by the Roman emperor... That's just one example of how the Bible implies that Jesus was definately not white, but he was black skinned, certainly darker than the Egyptians of today. Today's Ashkenazic Jews don't even bear a resemblance to Jesus...

                                    Whatever colour he was, he was certainly not a white European or anything like it.

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