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    Edip_Yuksel
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    Boycott What, Boycott How?
    Edip Yuksel

    "Boycott Israeli Dates. Sometimes when I walk through the mall, I walk past some of these stores above M&S, Tesco, Sainsbury's etc. I see middle eastern women wearing headscarves and men with big beards happily shopping away, buying grapefruit, oranges and dates amongst many other things MADE IN ISRAEL. Aggggggggghh it makes me so mad, I want to get a giant mallet and hit these stupid people on the head with it!" Eddy at Facebook.

    This is a better campaign than the many other campaigns I have witnessed so far. It directly targets Israeli goods. But, this may not be the best product to target. It has little chance to succeed if it does not have a powerful team promoting it. Even if the campaign succeeds and the Israeli date companies suffer big losses, the impact may not be heard in the public. Furthermore, I believe targeting American and European companies that assist Israeli's fascist policies may have more positive impact, both in political and financial world.

    I have seen invitations to boycott a list of 30-50 American or European corporations because they support Israel and Nazionism financially. The logos of major brands wink and blink. And unfortunately it remains at that. Please forgive my language, but this is just stupid and wishful thinking, since such a list has no chance of success. They are useless campaigns. As long as we do not think critically and scientifically we will never succeed. Let me explain.

    You can never practically achieve anything by a black list targeting 30 or more major corporations. First, many of the products we are asked to boycott are essential or semi-essential for modern life. Second, and most importantly, only a few people would be able to remember the names of those brands. And very few people would be able to carry the black list in their pockets and check every item in the grocery store they intend to buy with the list.

    So, if we really want to accomplish something, we need to target an achievable goal. After that target is hit, we should move to the next one. In fact, after hitting a few targets successfully, the rest in the list will receive a serious warning, and even before they are put in the next black list, they may stop their support for the Nazionist atrocities. Let's call this strategy SUCCESSFUL APPROXIMATION. That is, we will reach our ultimate goal of cutting corporate support for Israel, step by step.

    For instance, we could pick no more than THREE corporations that we are sure are openly supporting Israel. Those corporations should not be producing essential components or items such as computer chips or vital medicines, since the campaign against such a corporation will not provide maximum success. They should not be very small companies like date producers, either. So, the choice of the three corporations should be done after a diligent research and deliberation.

    Now after we picked our first target three Nazionist companies that produce such goods or services that have competing or alternative brands.

    A team of artists and thinkers then should combine those three brands in multimedia ads, such as cartoons, billboard signs, video clips, songs, slogans, logos, jingles, etc, and flood the Internet and media with it.

    I am ready to lead such a campaign. But, first we need to create the team that will pick the three target corporations and will create the multi-media campaign. If you would like to be in the team, please contact me at edipyuksel at hotmail dot com address, with the Subject title Campaign against Zionists for Freedom, Peace, and Justice.

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      YuhannaTheMad
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      You forgot to mention China and Saudi Arabia.

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        Edip_Yuksel
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        You forgot to mention China and Saudi Arabia.

        Thank you for your reminder.

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          Rev_John
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          Why not boycott CocaCola, They are owned by the Mormons.

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            UmAlawi
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            Edip, your uber-organized approach sounds more like a Girlcott P

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              Rev_John
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              Edip, your uber-organized approach sounds more like a Girlcott

              laugh

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                Alen
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                Peace,
                Respectfully.

                Forget boycotting, let's either open our own stores and malls or buy those already in existance Tesco, Sainsbury's, ASDA, Morrison. This is of course from United Kingdom, four major food markets.

                If we could buy or start something like CAFE NERO, Starbuscks Coffee, PRET-A-MANGER, then maybe we won't be so poor.lol. I see sunnis whining all day long about how we don't have any money and they're fighting us and killing us and blah, blah, blah, blah.
                Well, get to work!

                Peace.

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                  Rev_John
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                  Peace,
                  Respectfully.

                  Forget boycotting, let's either open our own stores and malls or buy those already in existance Tesco, Sainsbury's, ASDA, Morrison. This is of course from United Kingdom, four major food markets.

                  If we could buy or start something like CAFE NERO, Starbuscks Coffee, PRET-A-MANGER, then maybe we won't be so poor.lol. I see sunnis whining all day long about how we don't have any money and they're fighting us and killing us and blah, blah, blah, blah.
                  Well, get to work!

                  Peace.

                  I wish you would buy Walmart here, might improve the service.

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                    peace Edip,

                    I think concentrated targeting of several select companies is possibly a better idea than multiple company targeting. People generally like things simple and simple is often more effective. I have been a fan and follower of the boycott israel campaign for several years now. There are many websites out there discussing it. If the plan comes into effect, it will be best to have verifiable references along with the selected companies. Also, it may be worthwhile choosing companies with a significant presence in "Muslim" countries, as losing business for them might be quicker and thus more noticeable. Also, companies need to know why this is happening, so letting them know why is crucial to any campaign. I would like to spend time on this but I am thinly spread as it is in my own projects. And remember, even the tiniest of raindrops can wear away the largest immovable of stones. I wish you the best of luck and I hope you create a downpour.

                    Forget boycotting, let's either open our own stores and malls or buy those already in existance Tesco, Sainsbury's, ASDA, Morrison. This is of course from United Kingdom, four major food markets.

                    Do you not realise attempting to buy over anyone of those companies would require several billion at least? The effort required in opening stores and maintaining them is significantly more than donating time to a campaign. Are we shooting in the dark hoping to hit the target or are we applying a systematic approach?

                    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                      Trouper
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                      May I know why we have to boycott certain products? Why do we have to boycott Israel? I just do not understand one thing how can only one country be held responsible? If we are Muslim, isn't that we have to study every side of a circumstance in order to pass the right judgment? Can anyone tell me here honestly what is the main cause of the conflict between Israel and Palestine?

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                        Rev_John
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                        May I know why we have to boycott certain products? Why do we have to boycott Israel? I just do not understand one thing how can only one country be held responsible? If we are Muslim, isn't that we have to study every side of a circumstance in order to pass the right judgment? Can anyone tell me here honestly what is the main cause of the conflict between Israel and Palestine?

                        A very good question

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                          YuhannaTheMad
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                          Can anyone tell me here honestly what is the main cause of the conflict between Israel and Palestine?

                          Ideologies. These companies some of you may be boycotting aren't very much different from a company in the United States or UK. They are run by humans. The people that work under them are humans. And the money they make is used to support other humans. None of us know what position the owner of a date plantation stands on in regards to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

                          These petty personal sanctions aren't touching the root cause nor is it going to do any harm to those giving order to soldiers to break down the door of the next Fhilistini.

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                            Can anyone tell me here honestly what is the main cause of the conflict between Israel and Palestine?

                            It is primarily a land issue, i.e. in the "6 day war" Israel were victorious and conquered land during it and never gave a lot of it back and have steadily taken more and more and oppressed the people they have taken and are taking it from. Generally, if you steal land from people and oppress them, they are unlikely to be happy about that and fight you. Many are under the mistaken impression it is some sort of religious conflict.

                            As to the rest of your questions, let me know your thoughts, then I shall give you mine.

                            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                              Why not boycott CocaCola, They are owned by the Mormons.

                              The CEO is a Turk, though, so he's Muslim...well...Sunni, so I guess it's OK ;D
                              I'm trying to stay away from sodas anyways so it shouldnt be too hard to boycott, or at least girlcott (half-boycott) laugh

                              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                MUNZIR_ALI
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                                The CEO is a Turk, though, so he's Muslim...well...Sunni, so I guess it's OK ;D
                                I'm trying to stay away from sodas anyways so it shouldnt be too hard to boycott, or at least girlcott (half-boycott) laugh

                                rotfl Coke is great! eat

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                                  Edip_Yuksel
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                                  peace Edip, I think concentrated targeting of several select companies is possibly a better idea than multiple company targeting. People generally like things simple and simple is often more effective. I have been a fan and follower of the boycott israel campaign for several years now. There are many websites out there discussing it. If the plan comes into effect, it will be best to have verifiable references along with the selected companies. Also, it may be worthwhile choosing companies with a significant presence in "Muslim" countries, as losing business for them might be quicker and thus more noticeable. Also, companies need to know why this is happening, so letting them know why is crucial to any campaign. I would like to spend time on this but I am thinly spread as it is in my own projects. And remember, even the tiniest of raindrops can wear away the largest immovable of stones. I wish you the best of luck and I hope you create a downpour.

                                  Your suggestion makes sense. To be effective it must be companies that have presence in the Muslim world. I am already contacted by some graphic artists. I will inshallah contact some sponsors for the campaign during my trip to Asia next October.

                                  Peace,
                                  Edip

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                                    justice
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                                    Is Palestine not the promise land for the Israelite? yeah then why the fight over it!!!

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                                      huruf
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                                      I am following this debate with interest.

                                      My appreciation to Edip Yuksel for his time, thoughts and commitment on this and to all others which are contributing their best.

                                      The ideas put forward are whorthwhile furthering. I will try to put them forward where I am and see what can be done, other than in arab countries, also locally.

                                      May god bless your sincere efforts and all efforts.

                                      Salaam

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                                        Is Palestine not the promise land for the Israelite? yeah then why the fight over it!!!

                                        Why the fight over anything?

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                                          Alen
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                                          Do you not realise attempting to buy over anyone of those companies would require several billion at least? The effort required in opening stores and maintaining them is significantly more than donating time to a campaign. Are we shooting in the dark hoping to hit the target or are we applying a systematic approach?

                                          Peace,
                                          Respectfully.

                                          Of course. I know it would take billions and maybe even trillions of heavy USD, GBP and Euro and whatnot, i know all of this, why do you think i've been trying to bust the door of Hollywood since i was 13?

                                          I keep saying and repeating one and the same thing but few people listen and even fewer want to unite. Sadly. But let's focus. Let's say that we want to buy just one of these four major stores, here in UK. let's say ASDA. UK has population of 60,000,000 people and little over 1,000,000 sunnis. I thinkt here are some 100 Muslims on this cute little island.

                                          One would first need to get organised in a way that one would need a major group beuhind him who will accompany him/her to really buy ASDA. Board of directors or this one boss, whoever is at the top of ASDA, is a business person. He sees money. In Slovenia, such men have been selling even bigger estates and companies and making thousands and tens of thousands out of work.

                                          Once we know and meet the director/s, we need to offer such a price that he won't be able to refuse. I believe with the help of The Exalted God The Most Powerful and without any threats or sneaky, crafty plans, this could work.

                                          let's say we actually buy one of these companies. Then what? Then we exliminate from the shelfs these items pork, ham, bacon, tobacco products, pornographic material, alcohol and condoms (wait, wait, don't kill me just yet, please.) Then we lower the prices by, let's say 25%, give or take, right? The idea is to "steal" the customers from other stores, such as Sainsbury's, Tesco and M. Then - one can start thinking about buying these other stores i just mentioned.

                                          This plan might sound crazy but my intention is good.
                                          It also sounds undoable. I know.

                                          2249 So when Saul set out with the soldiers, he said ?God will test you with a river, whoever drinks from it is not with me, and whoever does not taste from it except one scoop with his hand is with me.? They all drank from it, except for a few of them. So when he and those who believed with him crossed it, they said ?We have no power today against Goliath and his soldiers!? But the ones who understood that they would meet God said ?How many a time has a small group beaten a large group with the permission of God, and God is with the patient ones!?

                                          Where would one get billions of USD or GBP or Euro to buy anything like that? I was thinking with movie industry. It's one of the biggest industries in the world, right? I got fresh ideas and there is a small differnece between me and Hollywood writers i don't need naked women to score large audience and spending one year in Leicester is a solid proof for that. Thank God.

                                          God bless you all.
                                          Glory be to our God,
                                          Peace.

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