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A Question About Jinns

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    TheJoker
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    What is a Jinn?

    LOL might take years to answer that one. There are lots of theories on Jinns. I'd use the search function on satan/jinns.

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      Rami
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      What is a Jinn?

      Beings created before us from fire. They include Satan and his followers. Some regard them as fallen angels.

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        Rev_John
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        Beings created before us from fire. They include Satan and his followers. Some regard them as fallen angels.

        Thank you, at last an answer

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          Thank you, at last an answer

          Want to know about some of the legends of the jinn, this will give it all

          One Thousand and One Nights
          A well-known story in the One Thousand and One Nights describes a genie who had displeased King Solomon and was punished by being locked in a bottle and thrown into the sea. Since the bottle was sealed with Solomon's seal, the genie was helpless to free himself, until freed many centuries later by a fisherman who discovered the bottle.

          Demons and magic
          According to the Rabbinical literature, on account of his modest request for wisdom only, Solomon was rewarded with riches and an unprecedentedly glorious realm, which extended over the upper world inhabited by the angels and over the whole of the terrestrial globe with all its inhabitants, including all the beasts, fowl, and reptiles, as well as the demons and spirits. His control over the demons, spirits, and animals augmented his splendor, the demons bringing him precious stones, besides water from distant countries to irrigate his exotic plants. The beasts and fowl of their own accord entered the kitchen of Solomon's palace, so that they might be used as food for him, and extravagant meals for him were prepared daily by each of his 700 wives and 300 concubines, with the thought that perhaps the king would feast that day in her house.

          A magic ring called the "Seal of Solomon" was supposedly given to Solomon, and gave him power over demons. The magical symbol said to have been on the Seal of Solomon which made it work is now better known as the Star of David. Asmodeus, king of demons, was one day, according to the classical Rabbis, captured by Benaiah using the ring, and was forced to remain in Solomon's service. In one tale, Asmodeus brought a man with two heads from under the earth to show Solomon; the man, unable to return, married a woman from Jerusalem and had seven sons, six of whom resembled the mother, while one resembled the father in having two heads. After their father's death, the son with two heads claimed two shares of the inheritance, arguing that he was two men; Solomon, owing to his huge wisdom, decided that the son with two heads was only one man.

          The Seal of Solomon, in some legends known as the Ring of Aandaleeb, was a highly sought after symbol of power. In several legends, different groups or individuals attempted to steal it or attain it in some manner.

          One legend concerning Asmodeus goes on to state that Solomon one day asked Asmodeus what could make demons powerful over man, and Asmodeus asked to be freed and given the ring so that he could demonstrate; Solomon agreed but Asmodeus threw the ring into the sea and it was swallowed by a fish. Asmodeus then swallowed the king, stood up fully with one wing touching heaven and the other earth, and spat out Solomon to a distance of 400 miles. The Rabbis claim this was a divine punishment for Solomon having failed to follow three divine commands, and Solomon was forced to wander from city to city, until he eventually arrived in an Ammonite city where he was forced to work in the king's kitchens. Solomon gained a chance to prepare a meal for the Ammonite king, which the king found so impressive that the previous cook was sacked and Solomon put in his place; the king's daughter, Naamah, subsequently fell in love with Solomon, but the family (thinking Solomon a commoner) disapproved, so the king decided to kill them both by sending them into the desert. Solomon and the king?s daughter wandered the desert until they reached a coastal city, where they bought a fish to eat, which just happened to be the one which had swallowed the magic ring. Solomon was then able to regain his throne and expel Asmodeus. (The element of a ring thrown into the sea and found back in a fish's belly earlier appeared in Herodotus' account of Polycrates of Samos).

          Other forms of Solomon legend describe Solomon as having had a flying carpet that was 60 miles square, and could travel so fast that it could get from Damascus to Medina within a day. One day, due to Solomon exhibiting pride, the wind shook the carpet and caused 40,000 men to fall from it; Solomon on being told by the wind why this had happened, felt ashamed. Another day Solomon was flying over an ant-infested valley and overheard an ant warning its fellow ants to hide lest Solomon destroy them; Solomon desired to ask the ant a question, but was told it was not becoming for the interrogator to be above and the interrogated below. Solomon then lifted the ant above the valley, but the ant said it was not fitting that Solomon should sit on a throne while the ant remained on the ground, so Solomon placed the ant upon his hand, and asked it whether there was any one in the world greater than he. The ant replied that she was much greater as otherwise God would not have sent him there to place it upon his hand; this offended Solomon and he threw the ant down reminding it who he was, but the ant told him that it knew Solomon was created from a corrupted drop, causing Solomon to feel ashamed.

          According to one legend, while magically traveling Solomon noticed a magnificent palace to which there appeared to be no entrance. He ordered the demons to climb to the roof and see if they could discover any living being within the building but the demons only found an eagle, which said that it was 700 years old, but that it had never seen an entrance. An elder brother of the eagle, 900 years old, was then found, but it also did not know the entrance. The eldest brother of these two birds, which was 1,300 years old, then declared it had been informed by its father that the door was on the west side, but that it had become hidden by sand drifted by the wind. Having discovered the entrance, Solomon found an idol inside that had in its mouth a silver tablet saying in Greek (a language not thought by modern scholars to have existed 1000 years before the time of Solomon) that the statue was of Shaddad, the son of 'Ad, and that it had reigned over a million cities, rode on a million horses, had under it a million vassals, and slew a million warriors, yet it could not resist the angel of death.

          http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon#Apocryphal_texts

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            slif
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            Thank you, at last an answer

            Smokeless fire.

            They live in a world between humans and angels and cross over from time to time, space to space.
            You could think of them like faerie folk.

            And "Satan" or "Shaytan", incidentally, is not a first name... technically speaking.

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              TheJoker
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              Smokeless fire.

              They live in a world between humans and angels and cross over from time to time, space to space.
              You could think of them like faerie folk.

              And "Satan" or "Shaytan", incidentally, is not a first name... technically speaking.

              To me -- Satan or shaytan is not a name period. Otherwise, how do you explain the plural, 'shayateen'?

              In fact, 7/27 uses both the singular and plural form.

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                No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                To me -- Satan or shaytan is not a name period. Otherwise, how do you explain the plural, 'shayateen'?

                In fact, 7/27 uses both the singular and plural form.

                Interesting, but what about these?

                1698 Fa-itha qara/ta alqur-ana faistaAAithbiAllahi mina al shaytan alrrajeemi

                1698 So, when you study the Quran, you shall seek refuge with God from Satan, the banished

                1699 He has no authority over those who acknowledge, and who put their trust in their Lord.
                16100 His authority is over those who follow him, and those who set him up as a partner.

                I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                  TheJoker
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                  What about those?

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                    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                    What about those?

                    Check the bold bits.. the verses seem to indicate that the shaytan is one being.

                    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                      TheJoker
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                      I disagree, read the next verse... Can one being do this to multiple people? Or mankind as in 710-16?

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                        I disagree, read the next verse... Can one being do this to multiple people? Or mankind as in 710-16?

                        yes God is one being and he can do this to all of us, it is believed that God has given extra ordinary powers to iblis just to test us. hail

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                          Rev_John
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                          I disagree, read the next verse... Can one being do this to multiple people? Or mankind as in 710-16?

                          The supreme being (God) can do anything

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                            TheJoker
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                            The supreme being (God) can do anything

                            Dude, read the verses. They are referring to Satan, not God !

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                              Rev_John
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                              Dude, read the verses. They are referring to Satan, not God !

                              Well I'm sorry for not understanding the Arabic words!

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                                MUNZIR_ALI
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                                Well I'm sorry for not understanding the Arabic words!

                                I know how to read them! ;D but i can't understand a word! (

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                                  srotu
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                                  Eh --

                                  there's no point. You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

                                  Well hey, since you say that every conjecture or conclusion amounts to nothing and since the conjecture is based on the Qur'an and the stories...pray tell what makes your experience any different?

                                  Doesn't matter if anybody believes in you, just add another anecdote into the mix and it could be enlightening or fodder for future horror stories.

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                                    Rev_John
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                                    Well hey, since you say that every conjecture or conclusion amounts to nothing and since the conjecture is based on the Qur'an and the stories...pray tell what makes your experience any different?

                                    Doesn't matter if anybody believes in you, just add another anecdote into the mix and it could be enlightening or fodder for future horror stories.

                                    Exactly, it doesn't matter if anyone believes you, just give them the information and let them make up their own minds

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                                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                                      Exactly, it doesn't matter if anyone believes you, just give them the information and let them make up their own minds

                                      problem is, you will be killed before that! &

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                                        Rev_John
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                                        problem is, you will be killed before that! &

                                        Why?

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                                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                                          Why?

                                          sunnis and some catholics are too emotional and radical! &

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