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Why not simply "The Law" ?

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    almarh0m
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    Salamun alaykum

    Instead of "al Masjid al Haraam" translated as "The Inviolable Institution of Obedience " , why not simply call it THE LAW ?

    By the Law I mean The Government ( The Executive , The Legislature and The Judiciary ) . If we are to take Muslim to mean

    "peacemaker or peaceful person" then I suggest that , muslim can also mean " Law Abiding Citizen " .

    Are we not told by the Message to Ruku' (respect) and to Sujud (obey) whenever we enter a Gate of a city ?

    We are also told to turn our faces towards al Masjidil Haraam or to "Be Mindful of The Law wherever we are ?

    It would be great if some Brothers or Sisters in this Forum could write up a Glossary of Key Terms in a simple language for those of us

    who follow Islam as a Way of Life instead of a Rituals loaded religion .

    Peace and Guidance of The Merciful to you all

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      Akbar
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      Assalaamoo alaikoom

      What do you all think of this strange interpretation of Al Masjid al Haraam ?

      Wassalam

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        drfazl
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        almarh0m

        Whether it is right or wrong if it is original thinking there will be definitely some sense in it; and there is some sense in what you have posted. Yet, may Allah increase in our Wisdom.

        peace.

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          UmAlawi
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          Greetings of peace to the forum

          Masjid Al-Haraam....

          Is this the same word "Haraam" which is the opposite of "Helal"? So Haraam = prohibited/forbidden/illegal and Helal means legal/allowed/lawful?

          So does Masjid al-haraam mean the illegal mosque?

          thanks

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            Wakas
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            I recommend http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm

            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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              UmAlawi
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              I recommend http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm

              Peace Brother Wakas
              thanks for your quick reply
              I am on this page of the site you recommended
              http//nadeem.reflekterselv.com/rootsearch.php

              I have tried typing in H-R-M and Ha-Ra-Mim and also tried typing word in such as sacred/inviolable/forbidden but I think I am using it backwards because I want to know what "Masjid al-haraam" and typing other people's translations in to see if they are correct doesn't seem to bring me any closer to the truth. What am I doing wrong please?

              many thanks

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                Wakas
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                peace,

                On the page I linked you to, it says the following

                To use, click on the first Arabic letter of the root, from the Arabic letters shown above. The Arabic letters are arranged in a similar order to the English alphabet.

                Thus, if you had clicked on Ha, then scrolled down to Ha-Ra-Miim you would have found what you were looking for.

                Similarly, if you click on Siin, and scroll down to Siin-Jiim-Dal.

                They are arranged by verb and word form.

                All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                  UmAlawi
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                  peace,

                  On the page I linked you to, it says the following

                  Thus, if you had clicked on Ha, then scrolled down to Ha-Ra-Miim you would have found what you were looking for.

                  Similarly, if you click on Siin, and scroll down to Siin-Jiim-Dal.

                  They are arranged by verb and word form.

                  Peace Brother Wakas, thanks for this.
                  How do you know to use Siin-Jiim-Dal and not Miim-Siin-Jiim-Dal for "Masjid"? Do you always take the last 3?

                  many thanks

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                    Wakas
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                    peace,

                    Please read ALL pages on the link I gave you. How to determine the root is discussed in one of the links at the top.

                    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                      TheJoker
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                      Greetings of peace to the forum

                      Masjid Al-Haraam....

                      Is this the same word "Haraam" which is the opposite of "Helal"? So Haraam = prohibited/forbidden/illegal and Helal means legal/allowed/lawful?

                      So does Masjid al-haraam mean the illegal mosque?

                      thanks

                      Not the same 'haram'. Masjid al haram is a noun. The 'haram' that you speak of is a verb.

                      How do you recognize one from the other?

                      word form, context, grammar, etc.. Arabic is very precise in this way.

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                        UmAlawi
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                        I can greet you, say my name, where I come from and tell you the names of some household appliances in arabic... unfortunately I don't have a clue about the grammar!
                        Will have to get "Arabic for dummies" out )

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                          TheJoker
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                          Can you read it?

                          www.studyquran.org has some excellent links to aid in your studies.

                          I have found these books quiet useful

                          Fundamentals of Classical Arabic

                          Arabic grammar book. Part 1, Part 2, and finally part 3.

                          Source www.studyquran.org

                          Once you get the hang of it, you will be amazed by the language of the quran. The translations just do not do it justice.

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