studying biology and have a creation question

fye

we have prophet adam and prophet jesus they were created from what?

science states it had to be from a living organism that came in contact with another living organism for reproduction

jesus something created something that was sperm or similar to sperm which impregnanted mary

while prophot adam must have been created by something similar and also something resembling a womb like mud and a hot spring for temperature and protiens and such.

can anyone explain this using some biology?
*I'm still studying before trying some college again so a book explaination of the creation of man kind would be nice and easy to understand.

imrankhawaja

if you are asking about the creation of body/material u need to refer evolution how human being and everything on earth took place..

if you are asking about the creation of rooh/immaterial/spirit u can also get answers from evolution but their answers are not justified and they have missing links..

as far quran talk anout creation and evolution it looks very reasonable and understandable..

little summary according to quran Allah created human beings and everything in stages to perfect it.
human bodies and speciman of character/personalities were already there the stage usually we refer or we think its started from adam but that stage is a stage of creation humanity not of creating human specimen
thats is the only difference what we have in ourself a character/spirit/rooh thts a belssing of God he gave us a character which everybody have .so creation of spirit rooh immaterial occured after the stages before putting a character inside us. Allah ask a question from all the hummanity ,, are you ready to accept that trust and we all get ready but it was a risky decision humans are trangressing ignorant thats why they took that test. and we get tested in life from different ways..

we always assume allah created adam with some kind of materials in some sort of factory above seventh seven but infact Allah address us very differently when talking about our history and the history of our planet

i see one thing common in quran about creation and evolution.
God created human being from one soul..
according to darwin life started from one cell( neither male nor female)

thats why scholars sometimes think where eve come from , some said its from left rib of adam some said it comes from the remaining material when allah finsih creating adam.some have different theories
but as far i concern according to quran Allah talking about one soul from that one soul adam and mate come into existence .
but for step by step process one need to understand all these startup background

imrankhawaja

one thing i forget to mention we dnt need to worry about the tecnology of God as we know he created jesus without father but he created adam without father and mother.
Allah can create adam jesus anybody any time anywhere multiple times as long as he want
Allah have our dna coding due to which he can bring our very finger tips back to us with perfect order
same like if u have a cd and computer you can make as much copies as u want original will be there in case original lost we can recover it from hardisk if harddisk lost we can link to the source of album code

so dnt worry about it

huruf

In the qur'an the sameword, khalaka, is used when it is said that God created 3isa as when it says that God creates a human creature in the mothers womb,equally khalaqa. And the Qur'an itself say about the creation of anything that God says "be" and it is. The ressemblance between adam ad 3isa cannot be that because that is exctly the ame thing for absolutely everything, "be" and it is. The Qur'an says so.

Salaam

reel

I haven't looked into the case of Jesus just yet. But for Adam see
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608154.msg382875#msg382875

http//www.free-minds.org/evolution-and-quran

http//pu.edu.pk/images/journal/uoc/PDF-FILES/(11)%20Dr.%20Sultan%20Shah_86_2.pdf

fye

Hey back

I've read some of the book of genesis and some biology books and chemistry

We start with evertything being made from adams (atoms) and this Adam's reacted with one another. Like vinegar and baking soda the reaction is a type of life a cycle happening and ending life seems like a sustained cycle (fatiha surah 1, Lord and cherished or sustainer)

We have a number of cycles working in our bodies I read and found out our stomachs asorb food on a celluar level and their is an acid that turns food into raw cellular material and we poop out a lot of blood. Strange.

Glass is made from sand and we can make life using sand tubes.

I believe due to the rules ALLAH has established everything created will always fall into place this way. Like hydrogen always seeks an open valence and water was created and designed to fall into place exactly as it is.

Adam is easier to explain then Jesus because of the variables.

A virgin ends up pregenate but where did the sperm come from? I don't want to blaspheme a sign of ALLAH and say she say.on something unclean or something but women have to do certain things during their periods. I don't think there were insertable tampoons like sheep's wool back in those times but for a sperm cell to maintain life is not a new science.

The story of his birth is from dust (particles) of this and that we can count on particular of water and carbon being almost everywhere also we can say she was a woman given to cleaning herself. The Angel came to tell her she would be with child. he appeared as a man in "all" respects. Recall the story of Joseph how women thought him to be a no la Angel because of his beauty. I'm not sure of how things work down there but did this appearance cause any changes down there that would help sperm to travel? ALLAH said be and he was so ALLAH pretty much allowed this event to occur.
He was just a man so he was created the only way men are created sperm breaking an egg cell.
While DNA in prophet Adam's case has a gravity about it to come together on an atomic level like na and '( one being positive an the other being negative.
I consider Adam was born from inside the earth like a spawning pool since he would be returned back into it. And all atoms like prophet Adam long to be complete in valence (circle like having everyone and everything to need and want around you or connected to you)
His lack created his want this is probably why we breathe. Imagine oxygen as a solid form or a liquid form needing to be drank or consumed.
In the biblical account he loses a rib so maybe he lost blood as well and of I was born from a spawning pool I wouldn't want to go too far from it.
Proteins like mushrooms grow from the ground so the building blocks of a human body would be there. Water and fluid would be there it would be the perfect place for a sperm cell to grow and complete it's self even plant seeds find their building blocks in the earth like trees they are taking something from the earth like our stomachs and using these building blocks to grow huge.

I now consider life to be our struggle to maintain the reactions (chemical reactions) that call for our need to collect atoms and continue growth.

Death is simply decomposing and like is composing can anyone explain death with science not that spirit non-sense because everything must exisist on a physical level or even as a ionic charge like what brings atoms together?
(i'm still studying things like organic chemistry and compounds and molecules are composed differently some are right facing like dextro- other are put together differently yet contain the same atoms)